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Title: Be careful to an illegal free stock
Post by: microtalk on September 23, 2016, 11:04
Hello,
I just discover a new illegal website that contain around 34 000 images from microstock and available for free
So if you reconize your image or other, don't hesitate to send dmca

http://www.freestockhere.com/ (http://www.freestockhere.com/)
Title: Re: Be careful to an illegal free stock
Post by: Dumc on September 23, 2016, 11:15
I found one of mine.....
Title: Re: Be careful to an illegal free stock
Post by: microtalk on September 23, 2016, 11:18
I found one of mine.....

don't hesitate to send dmca to this site and to the download link (nitroflare)
and prevent shutterstock , fotolia ...
I already did but with more contributor complain, i hope they will do something
Title: Re: Be careful to an illegal free stock
Post by: Jo Ann Snover on September 23, 2016, 11:22
Bizarre site - they have watermarked previews for download. Anyone can get those from the sites themselves...

http://www.freestockhere.com/downloads/summer-3d-dimensional-texts-standing-in-beach-sand-with-sky-and-sun-rays-background-with-flying-colorful-balloons-umbrella-starfish-sunglasses-and-beach-ball-illustration/ (http://www.freestockhere.com/downloads/summer-3d-dimensional-texts-standing-in-beach-sand-with-sky-and-sun-rays-background-with-flying-colorful-balloons-umbrella-starfish-sunglasses-and-beach-ball-illustration/)

Title: Re: Be careful to an illegal free stock
Post by: microtalk on September 23, 2016, 11:25
Bizarre site - they have watermarked previews for download. Anyone can get those from the sites themselves...

[url]http://www.freestockhere.com/downloads/summer-3d-dimensional-texts-standing-in-beach-sand-with-sky-and-sun-rays-background-with-flying-colorful-balloons-umbrella-starfish-sunglasses-and-beach-ball-illustration/[/url] ([url]http://www.freestockhere.com/downloads/summer-3d-dimensional-texts-standing-in-beach-sand-with-sky-and-sun-rays-background-with-flying-colorful-balloons-umbrella-starfish-sunglasses-and-beach-ball-illustration/[/url])


and if you click on dowload button on your right you get this image in high quality and without watermark
Title: Re: Be careful to an illegal free stock
Post by: ChrisGardinerPhotography on September 23, 2016, 12:29
found one of mine, on the first page of the first keyword search i thought to do.
thanks for sharing link.
hoping i don't find too many more.
Title: Re: Be careful to an illegal free stock
Post by: Jo Ann Snover on September 23, 2016, 12:46
Bizarre site - they have watermarked previews for download. Anyone can get those from the sites themselves...

[url]http://www.freestockhere.com/downloads/summer-3d-dimensional-texts-standing-in-beach-sand-with-sky-and-sun-rays-background-with-flying-colorful-balloons-umbrella-starfish-sunglasses-and-beach-ball-illustration/[/url] ([url]http://www.freestockhere.com/downloads/summer-3d-dimensional-texts-standing-in-beach-sand-with-sky-and-sun-rays-background-with-flying-colorful-balloons-umbrella-starfish-sunglasses-and-beach-ball-illustration/[/url])


and if you click on dowload button on your right you get this image in high quality and without watermark


Got it. And I found one two of mine. I've notified Shutterstock support with details and asked them to try and get the site shut down. It'll take forever if we have to individually file DMCA notices one at a time. The image number FreeStock showed was the Shutterstock image number. I did see some other search results with DepositPhotos previews - so I assume those items were stolen from DP. Seems somewhat ironic given DP's origins.

In an incognito window I tried a download. They make money from selling ads (the "free" service) or selling you a "premium" to get faster ad-free downloads. After watching two ads I got a notice that I had to buy a premium as the "file's owner" had disabled free downloads. Total frauds.

Edited to ad that I just (Sept 30th, one week after contacting SS) received the standard "We take copyright infringement and theft very seriously...." reply from SS compliance. The images are still up at FreeStockShare.

Either there's such a huge flood of infringement and theft cases that they can't even get out the boilerplate reply quickly in spite of their large staff, or they have little to no concern with resolving these problems.

Seems to me they just tolerate a certain amount of "shrinkage" as part of doing business
Title: Re: Be careful to an illegal free stock
Post by: Shelma1 on September 23, 2016, 15:39
My work's there too. But I lost faith in Shutterstock when I reported Freepik to them and all they did was ask them to take down my work -- but kept them as an affiliate. So all the affiliate money they make from stealing images and referring people to SS keeps rolling right in.
Title: Re: Be careful to an illegal free stock
Post by: BD on September 23, 2016, 16:02
Does anyone have a link to a generic DMCA or info about writing one? On the first search I did I found one of my images ):

Thank you

Edit: Looks like mine came from Fotolia so I will probably email them first.
Title: Re: Be careful to an illegal free stock
Post by: Noedelhap on September 23, 2016, 17:59
I would love to sue the crap out of the site owners. I have zero tolerance for these stealing crooks.

Like Jo Ann Snover said, you can't just download it 'for free', because you have to buy a premium Nitroflare account to download the images. I doubt many people will be doing that.
Title: Re: Be careful to an illegal free stock
Post by: Jo Ann Snover on September 23, 2016, 18:43
Does anyone have a link to a generic DMCA or info about writing one? On the first search I did I found one of my images ):



http://www.ipwatchdog.com/2009/07/06/sample-dmca-take-down-letter/id=4501/ (http://www.ipwatchdog.com/2009/07/06/sample-dmca-take-down-letter/id=4501/)
Title: Re: Be careful to an illegal free stock
Post by: BD on September 23, 2016, 23:05
Does anyone have a link to a generic DMCA or info about writing one? On the first search I did I found one of my images ):



[url]http://www.ipwatchdog.com/2009/07/06/sample-dmca-take-down-letter/id=4501/[/url] ([url]http://www.ipwatchdog.com/2009/07/06/sample-dmca-take-down-letter/id=4501/[/url])


Thank you!
Title: Re: Be careful to an illegal free stock
Post by: Artist on September 23, 2016, 23:28
this is pathetic. I fount lot many my images at this website.
Title: Re: Be careful to an illegal free stock
Post by: microtalk on September 24, 2016, 05:52
 I made inquiries into this matter and i have some news:

I contacted Fotolia, and apparently they use their API system, so it's the reason why we see fotolia trademark on images
So they probably use Shutterstock, Depositfile ... api too

Use API is their trick to look legal but like Jo Ann Snover said : it's "Total frauds"
They use API for the look but not for the buying.
They use the file locker "Nitroflare" (file locker is an illegal file hosts, made by pirate) for making money on our stuff.
The people who have  premium account can download stuff for free and the other must be buying account for download
So all the money is directly inside their pocket

I hope that all concern microstocks will do something because it's a new step on the theft of our work
And for example here a quote of the api contract of fotolia (so they can do something) :

Quote
6. Indemnification


6.1 You will indemnify us and our subsidiaries, affiliates, officers, agents, employees, partners, and licensors from any claim, demand, loss, or damages, including reasonable attorneys’ fees, arising out of or related to your Works or other content that you provide to us, your use of the Services or Website, or your violation of these terms.

6.2 We have the right to control the defense of any claim, action or matter subject to indemnification by you with counsel of our own choosing. You will fully cooperate with us in the defense of any such claim, action or matter.


EDIT :

Here a new proove that illegal website was made by pirate
Title: Re: Be careful to an illegal free stock
Post by: txking on September 24, 2016, 22:41
rather then DMCA the person who runs the site why not DMCA the actual host?
https://www.cloudflare.com/abuse/form (https://www.cloudflare.com/abuse/form)

MAny host it seems if they get enough DMCA request for a specific person will then push the person off and make them find another host. You also might be a able to DMCA the registar as well though I'm not sure how that would work.
Title: Re: Be careful to an illegal free stock
Post by: Nica on September 25, 2016, 03:56
found a couple of mine too, but there are  simply too many to look at all .....  :-[
Title: Re: Be careful to an illegal free stock
Post by: riffmax on September 25, 2016, 09:05
"I did see some other search results with DepositPhotos previews - so I assume those items were stolen from DP"

Definitely not.

I found one of mine right off the bat - my all time best seller and it is not in my DP port.

Will have to keep looking for more.
Title: Re: Be careful to an illegal free stock
Post by: eyewave on September 26, 2016, 03:33
Found three of mine and sent DMCA notice to them and also to their webhoster -  email: [email protected]
Title: Re: Be careful to an illegal free stock
Post by: microtalk on September 26, 2016, 07:05
other bad thing: I enter on google search , the name of one fotolia image, and freestockhere is in the third position after shutterstock
it's just insane and freaky !!!

i have a response to fotolia this morning and they sent this matter to their legal section

So don't hesitate to alert other microstock on this crappy website for take them down
Title: Re: Be careful to an illegal free stock
Post by: sgoodwin4813 on September 26, 2016, 07:44
I searched with one keyword and found one of my best sellers.  It has their watermark but a SS image number.  Very annoying.  It's too hard to search by every keyword - those guys need to be shut down.
Title: Re: Be careful to an illegal free stock
Post by: Mantis on September 26, 2016, 14:54
They have many of my best sellers too. I did a DMCA to see what happens.  I suspect this is much bigger than a simple DMCA, though.
Title: Re: Be careful to an illegal free stock
Post by: farbled on September 26, 2016, 22:05
I found the freestockhere.com address is registered in the Bahamas. The ISP is http://www.internetbs.net/ (http://www.internetbs.net/) and they allow for reporting of abuse as well at [email protected].
Title: Re: Be careful to an illegal free stock
Post by: microtalk on September 27, 2016, 05:38
I also recommand you to report freestockhere image urls to google dmca form here : https://www.google.com/webmasters/tools/dmca-notice (https://www.google.com/webmasters/tools/dmca-notice)

For example if your image is here : http://www.freestockhere.com/downloads/gold-and-black-badge-on-white-background-shield-perfect-choice/ (http://www.freestockhere.com/downloads/gold-and-black-badge-on-white-background-shield-perfect-choice/)

Report these two urls :
http://www.freestockhere.com/downloads/gold-and-black-badge-on-white-background-shield-perfect-choice/ (http://www.freestockhere.com/downloads/gold-and-black-badge-on-white-background-shield-perfect-choice/)
http://www.freestockhere.com/wp-content/uploads/edd/gold-and-black-badge-on-white-background-shield-perfect-choice-ft-98787647.jpg (http://www.freestockhere.com/wp-content/uploads/edd/gold-and-black-badge-on-white-background-shield-perfect-choice-ft-98787647.jpg)

(to have the second link, click right on image and select "copy image adress")

The aim is to delete freestockhere link url from google
As i said in a previous post, when i entered a original name of a photo in google search, freestockhere is in the first page so it's very important to delete them from google.

Even a buyer with good attention, using google image or google search for buying an image may be fall on this crapy website instead of fotolia or shutterstock

Title: Re: Be careful to an illegal free stock
Post by: riffmax on September 27, 2016, 18:05
So far, my DMCA notices have been disregarded. Am I being too impatient (sent 2 days ago)? Or are they just unimpressed by a DMCA?
Title: Re: Be careful to an illegal free stock
Post by: palagarde on September 29, 2016, 16:04
Found some of my images too. These images were stolen two years ago on gfxtr... website, so I could think it's the source.
I sent a DMCA (to https://www.cloudflare.com/abuse/ (https://www.cloudflare.com/abuse/)) few days ago, some URl are already disabled, others no...

To not be depressed I try to don't look at google to find hundred of my images stolen. But I did this morning and in 10mns :(

Same stolen images at :
http://var.ge (http://var.ge)

This website resell shutterstock images:
http://fotooboi.by (http://fotooboi.by)

Strange website, looks like shutterstock but I saw almost all my stolen images no the others so I think it's no legit :
http://parsstock.ir (http://parsstock.ir)

Shutterstock and others do almost nothing to stop that, they only want shares traded up.
Well, I will start to plant potatoes, this is motivating me more, and if I can't sell them I could at least eat them.
Title: Re: Be careful to an illegal free stock
Post by: microdisq on September 29, 2016, 20:56
I found my image too on freestockhere..

I sent link to google, hope they can remove it.. But it is depressive to know someone has our images, how the hack  did they steal them??
Title: Re: Be careful to an illegal free stock
Post by: YadaYadaYada on September 29, 2016, 21:29
So far, my DMCA notices have been disregarded. Am I being too impatient (sent 2 days ago)? Or are they just unimpressed by a DMCA?

DMCA is a dog chasing it's tail. You send one notice and another step closer, but your tail moves to forward and a new place, and one step away from you. You can't ever catch them and when you do, nothing happens. There is no law or fee or penalty, they just step to a new place and you start over, chasing your tail.

DMCA for the people who don't have Google or a search. Or are too lazy?  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Millennium_Copyright_Act
Title: Re: Be careful to an illegal free stock
Post by: microdisq on September 29, 2016, 21:48
I don't understand, what do you write in DMCA message(on freestockhere website), please thieves remove this image it belongs to me?? 

The one I found seems to be the only one of that series I had on Depostiphotos, so my suspicion goes there..
Title: Re: Be careful to an illegal free stock
Post by: palagarde on September 30, 2016, 12:33
For freestockhere website send an email to : [email protected]
All my links were removed in 1 day
Title: Re: Be careful to an illegal free stock
Post by: microdisq on October 04, 2016, 05:15
Thank you, photos removed, at least those I found..
Title: Re: Be careful to an illegal free stock
Post by: Jo Ann Snover on October 04, 2016, 13:44
For freestockhere website send an email to : [email protected]
All my links were removed in 1 day

Thanks. I've just sent them a notice about four images of mine that are still up (I notified Shutterstock when this was first raised and they've done nothing). I'll post here when the images are gone.

The agencies are totally useless if you can do in one day what they apparently can't in a week and a half...
Title: Re: Be careful to an illegal free stock
Post by: Jo Ann Snover on October 05, 2016, 10:11
I just checked and the four images of mine have been taken down. Less than 24 hours after I sent the e-mail.

I am all but certain that it was my e-mail that resulted in the removal versus Shutterstock's (non) efforts as I only reported two images to them and I ended up finding four; all four are gone.
Title: Re: Be careful to an illegal free stock
Post by: mantered on October 05, 2016, 10:49
my reply from shutterstock was "please provide us with any information you may have which makes you believe that a license to this image was purchased from Shutterstock (as opposed to another stock agency or source)".  :o  really ??!!

after 10 days the DMCA notice sent to freestockhere did nothing ... the images are still up :|
Title: Re: Be careful to an illegal free stock
Post by: Nica on October 05, 2016, 12:22
For freestockhere website send an email to : [email protected]
All my links were removed in 1 day

thanks for that. My images had been removed in less than 24 hours.
Title: Re: Be careful to an illegal free stock
Post by: YadaYadaYada on October 06, 2016, 10:17
For freestockhere website send an email to : [email protected]
All my links were removed in 1 day

Thanks I'll  get mine removed. DMCA one by one we shouldn't have to do that and find them by ourself. Agency should see that it's a cover and stealing our work.
Title: Re: Be careful to an illegal free stock
Post by: microtalk on October 20, 2016, 09:53
on 23 septembre they have 34 000 stolen images online, today 389 807
what are microstock doing for stopping that ? apparently nothing   :-\
Title: Re: Be careful to an illegal free stock
Post by: Artist on October 20, 2016, 10:57
on 23 septembre they have 34 000 stolen images online, today 389 807
what are microstock doing for stopping that ? apparently nothing   :-\

Oh man this is going crazy now, shame on such people.


my reply from shutterstock was "please provide us with any information you may have which makes you believe that a license to this image was purchased from Shutterstock (as opposed to another stock agency or source)".  :o  really ??!!

after 10 days the DMCA notice sent to freestockhere did nothing ... the images are still up :|


Weird that shutterstock don't care about it. Now there are 100s of agencies should we send emails to all? and at the end all will say give me proof if the images were download from there agency.
Title: Re: Be careful to an illegal free stock
Post by: Hannafate on October 23, 2016, 10:15
At least they don't allow a direct download.  If you try to get a free picture, it goes to a registration page, and tries to sign you up for newsletters and ads.

Title: Re: Be careful to an illegal free stock
Post by: Artist on October 23, 2016, 12:30
At least they don't allow a direct download.  If you try to get a free picture, it goes to a registration page, and tries to sign you up for newsletters and ads.

Maybe you are not aware but the website they are affiliated to pay them great amount to promote such things. You get registered and the scammer gets money. I also wonder why they have watermark of fotolia in it, did they hacked into fotolia and downloaded their database?