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« on: April 25, 2012, 13:00 »
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Non-exclusive microstock photographers whose images sell frequently on the current microstock sites may want to take a hard look at PicturEngines new portal and marketing strategy.. (www.picturengine.comn)

This portal has five primary goals:
1 To make it possible for customers to review, in a single search, all the images included in the major RM, RF and microstock collections as well as images from individual direct contributors to PicturEngine.
2 To answer customer complaints about finding the same images on multiple sites. To accomplish this they remove all duplicates from every search and only showing each unique image once.
3 - To give individual contributors priority over distributors.
4 To allow individual photographers to set the price for the use of their images.
5 To pay photographers 100% of the fees collected for the use of their images.

For more information check out my Selling-Stock.com article (http://www.selling-stock.com/Article/picturengine-a-unique-portal-for-microstocker) which is available for free for microstockers to review.


« Reply #1 on: April 25, 2012, 13:10 »
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Well, the first red flag is that the link is broken. Probably should be .com (not .comn.) Not very professional.
« Last Edit: April 25, 2012, 13:16 by rimglow »

« Reply #2 on: April 25, 2012, 13:15 »
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Sounds like a sweet service, but it is way overpriced for small timers.  If I was in this full time I would seriously consider.

« Reply #3 on: April 25, 2012, 13:20 »
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The link worked for me.  The next paragraph says:
The disadvantage of participation is that instead of being able to post images for free as is the case on all microstock sites there is a $40 per month fee, plus $0.15 per gigabyte per month for image storage, to advertise an unlimited number of royalty free images. (The $40 is for those who sign up during the beta period and is locked in for life. Photographers will not actually be charged this fee until the project comes out of beta.)

So $480 per year plus storage fees for the possibility of getting a 100% commission.  I'll wait to see whether it leads to sales, but probably too rich for me as well.

« Reply #4 on: April 25, 2012, 13:38 »
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Stock database is an interesting idea that nobody has hit a home run on yet. If you are looking for more images, here's my definitive library:

http://mystockvectors.com/

I have an affiliate program too:

http://mystockvectors.com/affiliate/index.php

I did have a question though. How do you determine which agencies gets priority for an artist's image? I noticed some of my images from Shutterstock, but that wouldn't be my first choice to refer buyers too.

« Reply #5 on: April 25, 2012, 13:43 »
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The link is wrong as Rimglow states.  It's .com.  The site is painfully slow and what is interesting is that it comes up with Depositphotos thumbnails during a search. I wonder if when you are all signed up the thumbs will be something custom to the site.  Would be silly if a competitive site was the default thumb.

« Reply #6 on: April 25, 2012, 13:49 »
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Sounds like a sweet service, but it is way overpriced for small timers.  If I was in this full time I would seriously consider.

Hmmmm.....

RacePhoto

« Reply #7 on: April 25, 2012, 14:00 »
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The link is wrong as Rimglow states.  It's .com.  The site is painfully slow and what is interesting is that it comes up with Depositphotos thumbnails during a search. I wonder if when you are all signed up the thumbs will be something custom to the site.  Would be silly if a competitive site was the default thumb.

Odd when I searched my usual test subjects, I got mostly Corbis RM results?

I don't get it. I'm supposed to pay $40 a month so people can see my pictures on some search engine, instead of the site they buy from? Or maybe so those people can see the competition from many sites, and buy that, instead of my images? I really don't understand at all?

« Reply #8 on: April 25, 2012, 14:17 »
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The attraction for a buyer is a one-stop shop for every image anywhere.  Hopefully your images are interesting enough to compete with 20 million images from all the micros.... Although, with a basic agency like interface, it's sort of just more of the same.

« Reply #9 on: April 25, 2012, 14:26 »
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who is behind this "agency"?

« Reply #10 on: April 25, 2012, 15:46 »
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PicturEngine is by Justin Brinson (http://www.linkedin.com/in/justinbrinson).

He also owns:

1.  http://www.pornstockphoto.com - Porn Stock Photo
2.  http://www.picturenginegroup.com - PicturEngine group
3.  http://www.gstockphoto.com - G Stock Photo
4.  http://www.thebrinsongroup.com - The Brinson Group
5.  http://www.cornerhousestock.com - Corner House Stock
6.  http://www.genericstockphoto.com
7.  http://www.mybigfind.com - My Big Find
8.  http://www.cornerhousestockphoto.com - Corner House Stock Photo
9.  http://www.picturesque.com/ - Picturesque

« Reply #11 on: April 25, 2012, 19:21 »
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PicturEngine is by Justin Brinson (http://www.linkedin.com/in/justinbrinson).

He also owns:

1.  http://www.pornstockphoto.com - Porn Stock Photo
2.  http://www.picturenginegroup.com - PicturEngine group
3.  http://www.gstockphoto.com - G Stock Photo
4.  http://www.thebrinsongroup.com - The Brinson Group
5.  http://www.cornerhousestock.com - Corner House Stock
6.  http://www.genericstockphoto.com
7.  http://www.mybigfind.com - My Big Find
8.  http://www.cornerhousestockphoto.com - Corner House Stock Photo
9.  http://www.picturesque.com/ - Picturesque


nice job

Ed

« Reply #12 on: April 25, 2012, 20:07 »
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The only thing I see this doing is driving prices lower.

You're listing microstock images next to non-micro images...you tell me which one the buyer is going to choose.  What happens when someone that has a micro image on Alamy (which they shouldn't, but they do anyway)?

It's revolutionizing, yes...but you're on the wrong side of the battle field and as an image supplier, or as an agency, I don't see any positives - the only thing it's going to do is give the lower priced agency an advantage...and you want ME to pay YOU to do this?   ??? ??? ???

You don't have my support.  Sorry.
« Last Edit: April 25, 2012, 20:09 by Ed »

PaulieWalnuts

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« Reply #13 on: April 25, 2012, 20:22 »
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The only thing I see this doing is driving prices lower.

You're listing microstock images next to non-micro images...you tell me which one the buyer is going to choose.  What happens when someone that has a micro image on Alamy (which they shouldn't, but they do anyway)?

It's revolutionizing, yes...but you're on the wrong side of the battle field and as an image supplier, or as an agency, I don't see any positives - the only thing it's going to do is give the lower priced agency an advantage...and you want ME to pay YOU to do this?   ??? ??? ???

You don't have my support.  Sorry.

So what's the cause? The people creating the technology to find low prices? Or the people supplying the cheap sites?

« Reply #14 on: April 25, 2012, 22:09 »
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1.  http://www.pornstockphoto.com - Porn Stock Photo


Disappointingly leads to picturengine...

Ed

« Reply #15 on: April 26, 2012, 07:09 »
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The only thing I see this doing is driving prices lower.

You're listing microstock images next to non-micro images...you tell me which one the buyer is going to choose.  What happens when someone that has a micro image on Alamy (which they shouldn't, but they do anyway)?

It's revolutionizing, yes...but you're on the wrong side of the battle field and as an image supplier, or as an agency, I don't see any positives - the only thing it's going to do is give the lower priced agency an advantage...and you want ME to pay YOU to do this?   ??? ??? ???

You don't have my support.  Sorry.

So what's the cause? The people creating the technology to find low prices? Or the people supplying the cheap sites?
The point is - if I want a product like peanut butter....but I want something cheap, I go to the dollar store.  If I want something at regular prices, I go to the grocery store.  If I want something fancy, I go to the specialty store that has something organic.  If you have them all in one place, who will lose out? (Sorry, I saw walnuts and thought of peanut butter).  If you want to point the buyer somewhere - point them to the expense priced items first.  When you go to the grocery store, check out product placement (they teach this in basic marketing classes). The items that are the most expensive and have the higher profit margins are within easy grasp.  The less expensive, not as profitable items are the items you have to stand on your tip toes or bend over to pick up.  what this search engine is doing is making the cheap stuff easy to find among the expensive stuff.  Why would I pay to have someone promote my competitor like that?

With relation to the micros - no need to point fingers at me.  My micro portfolio is less than 1/4 of what my traditional portfolio is.  I work with just as many non-exclusive traditional agencies than I do with non-exclusive micro agencies (more if you count sub-distributors)....which will also show up as multiple images in the search engine.

« Reply #16 on: April 26, 2012, 08:14 »
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it"s been my experience that ad agencies pretty much stick with the one or two agencies they have accounts with. They don't spend a lot of time checking the whole microstock community only to find out that all agencies have pretty much the same stuff.


« Reply #17 on: April 26, 2012, 09:57 »
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The only thing I see this doing is driving prices lower.

it havent started out.. how can you know that? are you only at Alamy?

Ed

« Reply #18 on: April 26, 2012, 11:27 »
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The only thing I see this doing is driving prices lower.

it havent started out.. how can you know that? are you only at Alamy?

I can know that because I see images from Shutterstock next to images from Corbis.

There are just as many non-exclusive traditional agencies out there as there are microstock agencies out there.  I've mentioned before, I can't see spending $150 plus to finance a photo shoot only to wait until I have 230+ downloads from that shoot just to cover model and MUA costs let alone overhead consisting of gear, studio, my time, etc.  There are other agencies out there that would love to work with contributors and that are much more cordial to work with than a few of the micros.

No, I am not only with Alamy.  No, I'm not going to let everyone and their brother know which agencies I am with and let them take away my business.  There are a TON of resources out there on the internet that give this information for free.

« Reply #19 on: April 26, 2012, 11:50 »
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PicturEngine is by Justin Brinson (http://www.linkedin.com/in/justinbrinson).

He also owns:

1.  http://www.pornstockphoto.com - Porn Stock Photo
2.  http://www.picturenginegroup.com - PicturEngine group
3.  http://www.gstockphoto.com - G Stock Photo
4.  http://www.thebrinsongroup.com - The Brinson Group
5.  http://www.cornerhousestock.com - Corner House Stock
6.  http://www.genericstockphoto.com
7.  http://www.mybigfind.com - My Big Find
8.  http://www.cornerhousestockphoto.com - Corner House Stock Photo
9.  http://www.picturesque.com/ - Picturesque


The interesting thing here is the marketing of various stock categories as separate web sites. May do well (scoring higher) in finding specific images through Google searches.

« Reply #20 on: May 13, 2012, 10:26 »
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http://www.picturengine.com#oid=1006_1

I believe, and hope, this is the future business model of stock photography.  Contributors pay a flat subscription rate and receive 100% of the royalties.  To me, this is much more preferable than agencies taking 80% or more of the sales.  Currently, Picturengine is in beta phase.  During this time the rate is $40 a month.  If you sign up during beta, that rate is locked in for life.  I find the site very user friendly, easy to navigate.  They are also very open to suggestions from contributors, something missing from many agencies. 

lisafx

« Reply #21 on: May 13, 2012, 10:46 »
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This is great.  I've been waiting for someone to come up with this.  Hope it is successful. :)

« Reply #22 on: May 13, 2012, 10:54 »
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Might be a good idea but for the time being it is populated with some of my images from Depositphotos . . . . .  what's the connection?

And it breaks the rule for Art Galleries that says never pay upfront for an exhibition because then the gallery has no incentive to go out and find clients.
« Last Edit: May 13, 2012, 11:13 by etienjones »

wut

« Reply #23 on: May 13, 2012, 11:44 »
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At the moment it favouring macro photos a lot more than best match at IS did A/V files in the worst period for us indies last year. That's the first thing that should be sorted out before I'd join. I'm not sure I'm a big enough player for me to get payed off, unless the traffic would be similar to IS and SS. But wait a minute, what's the point anyway? We're seeing photos that are being sold on other agencies, how are we going to get 100% royalties then? Are we contributing to them directly as well? If so, they're an agency. And will they show only images hosted by them? It doesn't make sense otherwise

lagereek

« Reply #24 on: May 13, 2012, 11:47 »
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Yeah, give it 5 minutes and this system will have figured out a way to short change us :)


 

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