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« on: November 20, 2017, 18:28 »
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I know this comes up every now and then - but I need an application to copy/paste all the IPTC data from one photo to another.  I used to use Nikon CaptureNX but that's dead and buried.   I've tried a number of applications, and they're either junk, or they don't  have this feature - except for Photo Mechanic, which does it well but has a nosebleed price of $150 (I let the trial expire).

Surely there is something.





« Reply #1 on: November 20, 2017, 18:45 »
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IrfanView it's free.

« Reply #2 on: November 20, 2017, 19:04 »
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Tried Ifranview, and if it has a way to do this, it's buried so deep I can't find it.  It is a very old and clunky program and does things in weird ways, using odd terminology.  I gave up on it pretty quick.

« Last Edit: November 20, 2017, 19:11 by stockastic »

« Reply #3 on: November 20, 2017, 19:14 »
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Tried Ifranview, and if it has a way to do this, it's buried so deep I can't find it.

Click on the Image tab, choose Information at the top of the drop down list.  Click on IPTC info at the bottom of the box, edit to your hearts content.

« Reply #4 on: November 20, 2017, 20:09 »
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Click on the Image tab, choose Information at the top of the drop down list.  Click on IPTC info at the bottom of the box, edit to your hearts content.

What/where is the 'Image tab'?

I finally figured out that you have to use Files/Thumbnails to start browsing.  Then I drill down 9 levels (it always starts at the top) and see the thumbnails I want.  But no Image tab, or any other tabs.  Google has nothing for "Irfanvew image tab".


« Reply #5 on: November 20, 2017, 20:43 »
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Click on the Image tab, choose Information at the top of the drop down list.  Click on IPTC info at the bottom of the box, edit to your hearts content.

What/where is the 'Image tab'?

I finally figured out that you have to use Files/Thumbnails to start browsing.  Then I drill down 9 levels (it always starts at the top) and see the thumbnails I want.  But no Image tab, or any other tabs.  Google has nothing for "Irfanvew image tab".

File  Edit  Image  Options  View  Help

« Reply #6 on: November 20, 2017, 20:53 »
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I'll assume you mean 'menu item', not 'tab'.

In the "Thumbnails" window where I see and select photos, there's no "Image" menu item.  In the other (main?) window, which is empty, there's an Image menu, but no IPTC selection in it.

Are we talking about the same program?

But hey - we can let this go.  I just found a little gem of a program called PixiShot that does this in a simple and obvious way - see thumbnails, right-click copy, right-click paste. And it's free.
« Last Edit: November 20, 2017, 20:58 by stockastic »

« Reply #7 on: November 20, 2017, 21:14 »
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I'll assume you mean 'menu item', not 'tab'.

In the "Thumbnails" window where I see and select photos, there's no "Image" menu item.  In the other (main?) window, which is empty, there's an Image menu, but no IPTC selection in it.

Are we talking about the same program?

But hey - we can let this go.  I just found a little gem of a program called PixiShot that does this in a simple and obvious way - see thumbnails, right-click copy, right-click paste. And it's free.

Yes, Menu item.  PixiShot looks interesting.

You can also do it in Windows, right click on thumbnail, properties, but not all agencies can read it.

Chichikov

« Reply #8 on: November 21, 2017, 03:39 »
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Lightroom does it
(Nothing simpler)
« Last Edit: November 21, 2017, 03:53 by Chichikov »

« Reply #9 on: November 21, 2017, 04:37 »
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XnView is a free and good Programm to edit pictures and the IPTC data.

« Reply #10 on: November 21, 2017, 04:59 »
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If you are a little bit into programming I would recommend ExifTool. Needs some time to get into it, but it's very powerful, lets you manipulate IPTC data every way you like...

JimP

« Reply #11 on: November 21, 2017, 21:02 »
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Don't be so complicated. in Irfanview with an image open, I then I, that's keystroke shortcuts for Image and IPTC data. You can open two copys of Irfan at the same time or copy and paste to any text editor, then copy and paste to the next image.

Or batch edit https://tng.lythgoes.net/wiki/index.php/Batch_updates_of_IPTC_tags_using_IrfanView

Chichikov

« Reply #12 on: November 22, 2017, 04:28 »
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What many do not know is that the library module of Lightroom continues to function after the license runs out.
So, you can go download the trial version of Lightroom, use up the trial period, and still have a much of the programs functionality completely free.
In the Lightroom library module you can copy and paste any metadata you want (menu Metadata > Copy Metadata).

It works, it is simple and it is free!


https://petapixel.com/2014/07/10/lightroom-now-remains-mostly-functional-even-license-runs/


« Reply #13 on: October 20, 2020, 11:10 »
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Old thread that I'd like to revive.

I'm still looking for a better tool for editing IPTC keywords, descriptions,titles etc.

PixiShot does the job, but it's dated and clunky.  The main point of pain is the text editor, a pathetic little single-line window that shows about 8 words at a time and can't be enlarged.  And not being able to select ascending/descending sort order is pretty bad.

It's deadware, hasn't been updated in years.

Does anyone know of something newer and better?

Uncle Pete

  • Great Place by a Great Lake - My Home Port
« Reply #14 on: October 20, 2020, 15:18 »
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Breezebrowser Pro: $95  https://www.breezesys.com/solutions/breeze-browser-pro/

It does a lot more, and I only use the old version, from the days of XP. I'd have to look, but I mean possibly 2009 version, still works. Catalog, save iptc as xmp files, copy and paste/ edit keywords and any field in metadata, including IPTC headline, Location and many others, that we don't use for stock.

BB pro does not re-order words by alpha sort, but you need to enter them the oder you want. I don't know if the newer version allows for drag and drop re-organizing. It's some kind of photo tool, that just happened to have really nice Keyword capabilities back when I was starting.

Yes it's going to cost you, but it's modern and works.

Irfanview is quirky but free. I don't use organizer or lightroom and others do with results that they make work. Save keyword sets and you can copy and paste?

« Reply #15 on: October 20, 2020, 16:52 »
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I know I tried Breezebrowser once.  Maybe there was a reason I didn't like it, or else I just wouldn't pay $95 which IMHO is crazy. But I'll look again.

UPDATE: I downloaded the trial and now I remember the problem: no way to copy/paste IPTC from one photo to another.  I think you can export it to a file, then import it, or something.  Messy and slow.
« Last Edit: October 20, 2020, 18:07 by stockastic »

« Reply #16 on: October 20, 2020, 18:23 »
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You can do it in GIMP.


« Reply #17 on: October 20, 2020, 19:50 »
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GIMP!  Now there's a name from the past.  Being a Windows guy I've never used it.   But I see they have a windows version.  I know it's an image editor, but is it also a good browser and IPTC editor?

UPDATE: No, it's not. I just installed it, took a quick trip to hell, and uninstalled.   

« Last Edit: October 20, 2020, 20:04 by stockastic »

« Reply #18 on: October 20, 2020, 20:48 »
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After banging my head against this for an hour, and downloading all sorts of crap, I went back to PixiShot and figured out my problem - I think.   It has a non-obivious option to "automatically save files" which is off by default.  Long story short, in that state you will see all sorts of weird behavior as you edit IPTC because it isn't save right away and in fact often reverts to the original - silently.  But enable that option and it seems to modify the file on disc right away.

I think I'm ok now.

Uncle Pete

  • Great Place by a Great Lake - My Home Port
« Reply #19 on: October 21, 2020, 09:20 »
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I know I tried Breezebrowser once.  Maybe there was a reason I didn't like it, or else I just wouldn't pay $95 which IMHO is crazy. But I'll look again.

UPDATE: I downloaded the trial and now I remember the problem: no way to copy/paste IPTC from one photo to another.  I think you can export it to a file, then import it, or something.  Messy and slow.

Select images, Apply to Selected images.  :) That's the easiest part of the system. Check out... select some images, which is one click, hold the CTRL, or you can do the usual, Shift+click and select a range,

then Ctrl+shift+ I which is a bit unusual at first but that's the command to bring up the IPTC edit screen



If you click apply to all, it will do just that, but it also will overwrite the title and description, so you want to add keywords, which the system has a memory, and as you go to each, --> they will be filled in, and you click apply.

Also and this is the nice part if you do the same kind of work or want to use a saved set of words, Save to File, saves all the data into an XMP file. I take a completed image, remove all data, except the keywords, then save that. You don't have to destroy or re-do anything, just save the data and then don't apply the changes.

Now you have a keyword file, say for example I have words for an automobile photo. Any time I'm working on an auto photo, I can go to keywords, click MERGE which doesn't overwrite anything that's there, and now I have the top automobile words that I use, added to that image, or the whole set of images. You could have a set for wildlife, birds, trees, landscape, doesn't matter, they are essentially a delimited text file.

But the bottom line is, making sets of words, then merging them into your images, as needed, so you don't have to do that over and over.

BreezeBrowser does much more, I just don't use the features. You can edit right from the work panel, you set the editor in the settings. I see it more as an organizer, something I've never used.

Yes, $95 is a lot of money for keywording tools. I'm sure that there's something that words out there, that's free. Since I don't have a need, I didn't investigate for other alternatives.  :) I don't remember what I paid in 2008, but so far, good programming means the same software still works on Windows 10. Some others, I have had to keep my XP computer working, because I'd have to buy new or they stopped making their software. Kolor Autopano is one of those. I really like the way it does stitched panoramas, and maybe there's something else? But the old version doesn't work on anything after XP and the new version isn't sold anymore. The technology was purchased by GoPro for some reason, I think VR and video.

You can do it in GIMP.

And many do that. Gimp seems a really good free alternative, once someone takes the time to learn how it works.

After banging my head against this for an hour, and downloading all sorts of crap, I went back to PixiShot and figured out my problem - I think.   It has a non-obivious option to "automatically save files" which is off by default.  Long story short, in that state you will see all sorts of weird behavior as you edit IPTC because it isn't save right away and in fact often reverts to the original - silently.  But enable that option and it seems to modify the file on disc right away.

I think I'm ok now.

Nice a freeware that does it for you. As much as we hate free when it comes to our work, it seems we all like free when it comes to software tools? LOL  ;)


« Reply #20 on: October 21, 2020, 17:24 »
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a simpler approach is to first add your caption & tags to a spreadsheet (google dox has a free one)

then any time you need that (or similar) just cut/paste - no need to hunt for the image you want to use as a model

i have over 50K images & can find what i need in seconds

Uncle Pete

  • Great Place by a Great Lake - My Home Port
« Reply #21 on: October 22, 2020, 08:55 »
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a simpler approach is to first add your caption & tags to a spreadsheet (google dox has a free one)

then any time you need that (or similar) just cut/paste - no need to hunt for the image you want to use as a model

i have over 50K images & can find what i need in seconds

That's good advice. What do you use to paste that data into the images?

« Reply #22 on: October 22, 2020, 21:33 »
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a simpler approach is to first add your caption & tags to a spreadsheet (google dox has a free one)

then any time you need that (or similar) just cut/paste - no need to hunt for the image you want to use as a model

i have over 50K images & can find what i need in seconds

That's good advice. What do you use to paste that data into the images?

i use LR to open the images needing  IPTC then just cut/paste & export; i have a folder of images needing IPTC

you could also do this by opening w PS or any other app & add the details (even windows 'properties' but it's tedious)

to recap:
i have a folder w pix needing IPTC --> open that folder w LR (or et al), add the iptc  and export/save those images; if there are changes needed, i save those in the xlxs for future reference

wonky:  (this implies you've saved the images by a normalized name - eg '200102-xxx rather than 'roses602' tho even that would work [inefficiently])

it takes a bit of work to set up, but proceeds easily after that, even months/years later (I've been using Topaz deNoise & giga pixel to recover scanned images at low res to a submittable size and had excellent results even when the original scans were 640x480! [let me recover images from climbs & travels from the 70-90s i'll never be able to repeat)


« Last Edit: October 22, 2020, 21:53 by cascoly »


 

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