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tab62

« on: April 30, 2012, 12:58 »
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I know some of the folks are making a killing on DT this month but I had my worst month in over a year! I mean I dropped off the face of the earth- Has anyone else had poor sales this month as well?


Ed

« Reply #1 on: April 30, 2012, 13:03 »
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Yep - 4 images licensed total. 

Worst month since November 2005... back when I had 22 images total online.

tab62

« Reply #2 on: April 30, 2012, 13:06 »
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How many pics do you have on DT?

lisafx

« Reply #3 on: April 30, 2012, 13:16 »
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Hasn't been as good as some other months, but in my case that seems to be true for all sites.  Even SS is down from March. 

I wouldn't worry about it too much.  DT were rolling out a lot of new stuff. Site may have been down for short intervals, or not operating at peak.   Things will settle into place over the next couple of weeks IMO. 

tab62

« Reply #4 on: April 30, 2012, 13:22 »
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Thanks LisaFX. I will keep uploading to them and keep my fingers crossed...

« Reply #5 on: April 30, 2012, 13:23 »
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I was having a fairly good month until late last week, then only two downloads since April 25th including today.  This is highly unusual and quite disturbing.  DT has never been a huge performer for me, but I could always count on at least two downloads a day.  I average about 100 downloads a month with a little over 500 images.  Summer slowdown starting early?

???

lisafx

« Reply #6 on: April 30, 2012, 13:24 »
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I will keep uploading to them and keep my fingers crossed...

You and me both!  :)

« Reply #7 on: April 30, 2012, 13:36 »
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I have a lot of level 4 and 5 pics on DT, and normally do very well there.

April was a good month for me on DT until the price structure change was rolled out last Friday.  There is a clear line in my DT sales where you see my sales fall off the face of the Earth.  If this keeps up, they will probably go from being my #4 seller to #8 or #9.  Very discouraging.

« Reply #8 on: April 30, 2012, 13:37 »
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March was a surprising BME (had an EL plus someone bought a series of 22 images at $3-5 a piece), so I expected a drop this month.  And surprisingly again, it didn't drop nearly as much as anticipated.  Instead of returning to my monthly average, I'm having my 4th BME.  So for me at least, I haven't seen a decrease in sales. 

« Reply #9 on: April 30, 2012, 13:55 »
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March was a surprising BME (had an EL plus someone bought a series of 22 images at $3-5 a piece), so I expected a drop this month.  And surprisingly again, it didn't drop nearly as much as anticipated.  Instead of returning to my monthly average, I'm having my 4th BME.  So for me at least, I haven't seen a decrease in sales.  

What type of sales volume do you normally have, if you don't mind me asking?  And do you have many level 4 or 5 images?  There's a theory going around that the veterans with lots of 4 and 5 pics are really suffering from the recent change, and others are benefiting from our pics being priced unattractively for many buyers.  Add in the fact that newer images may be getting preference in searches, and the veterans are really getting clobbered by the "new" DT.
« Last Edit: April 30, 2012, 13:59 by stockmarketer »

« Reply #10 on: April 30, 2012, 14:37 »
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50% drop in downloads, 30% in earnings compared to March for me. It's partially caused by (almost) zero days when "best selling images first" was default (the poor stay poor, the rich get richer). But RPD went up significantly after change in levels so I'm curious what will happen next months.

rubyroo

« Reply #11 on: April 30, 2012, 15:21 »
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Same earnings as usual for me this month. 

« Reply #12 on: April 30, 2012, 15:34 »
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After a bad March (down 40%), April is back up to February's level.  Amusingly enough, that was helped by (I assume) one customer who bought 13 images from the same shoot.  I wonder how much more often that would happen if DT weren't so doctrinaire about rejecting multiple images of the same subject from the same shoot.

« Reply #13 on: April 30, 2012, 16:31 »
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The first week pf April was great, then it dropped off to very little - only subs since then and not many of those.  Worst month there since last fall.

« Reply #14 on: April 30, 2012, 16:49 »
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I know some of the folks are making a killing on DT this month but I had my worst month in over a year! I mean I dropped off the face of the earth- Has anyone else had poor sales this month as well?

I just sent an email to support today...not that I'm expecting any kind of answer, just felt good to send it. I haven't had a download in 5 days. That is VERY unusual. Either they thought I was making too much money and buried me at the bottom of the sh$tpile, or something is really wrong with their sales reporting.

« Reply #15 on: April 30, 2012, 18:30 »
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March was a surprising BME (had an EL plus someone bought a series of 22 images at $3-5 a piece), so I expected a drop this month.  And surprisingly again, it didn't drop nearly as much as anticipated.  Instead of returning to my monthly average, I'm having my 4th BME.  So for me at least, I haven't seen a decrease in sales.  

What type of sales volume do you normally have, if you don't mind me asking?  And do you have many level 4 or 5 images?  There's a theory going around that the veterans with lots of 4 and 5 pics are really suffering from the recent change, and others are benefiting from our pics being priced unattractively for many buyers.  Add in the fact that newer images may be getting preference in searches, and the veterans are really getting clobbered by the "new" DT.

I'm a vet myself with images mostly created 3-6 years ago.  Haven't uploaded much the past three years.  About 1/10th of my portfolio of 2300 images are in the 4-5 range.   

Normally I don't share my numbers, but I'm baffled as to why my sales improving while so many others are seeing significant decreases.  April 2011, I sold 113 images and earned $138.11.  March 2012, I sold 112 images (one less) and earned $248.42 (1 EL @ $35).  That's a huge difference in earnings in only a year.  October 2011, I sold 88 images and earned $150.04.  This month, so far I've also sold 88 images, but have earned $177.43...a $27.39 increase.  December 2011, I sold 77 images and earned $102.05.  Two months later in February, I sold 76 images (one less) and earned $135.51...a $33.46 increase. 

I dunno what DT did, but it sure seems to be working for me!   

grafix04

« Reply #16 on: April 30, 2012, 18:46 »
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I'm a vet myself with images mostly created 3-6 years ago.  Haven't uploaded much the past three years.  About 1/10th of my portfolio of 2300 images are in the 4-5 range.   

Normally I don't share my numbers, but I'm baffled as to why my sales improving while so many others are seeing significant decreases.  April 2011, I sold 113 images and earned $138.11.  March 2012, I sold 112 images (one less) and earned $248.42 (1 EL @ $35).  That's a huge difference in earnings in only a year.  October 2011, I sold 88 images and earned $150.04.  This month, so far I've also sold 88 images, but have earned $177.43...a $27.39 increase.  December 2011, I sold 77 images and earned $102.05.  Two months later in February, I sold 76 images (one less) and earned $135.51...a $33.46 increase. 

I dunno what DT did, but it sure seems to be working for me!   

What they did was, they got rid of their weekly subscription plan, so that may be it.

I have a few level 4 and 5 images and I've seen a massive drop in sales this month.  Then again, it's been a slow month across all sites so it will be interesting to see what May brings in.


BK

« Reply #17 on: April 30, 2012, 18:52 »
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My month sucked at DT. I went 4 weeks without a sale. Granted, I have a small portfolio.  But, I haven't had a drought like that in about 18 months. Something defintely changed for the worse for me. I've had a sale 2 days in a row now, though, so I'm hopeful.

lisafx

« Reply #18 on: April 30, 2012, 18:54 »
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Okay, I am starting to worry.  Today's sales, like Fridays, are about 1/3 of normal.  

I've had consistent sales at Dreamstime for 7 years.  Something is definitely amiss.  '

To those reporting vastly improved sales, it would seem to suggest the search engine has been shaken so that different people are in front.  

« Reply #19 on: April 30, 2012, 18:57 »
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Okay, I am starting to worry.  Today's sales, like Fridays, are about 1/3 of normal.  

I've had consistent sales at Dreamstime for 7 years.  Something is definitely amiss.  '

To those reporting vastly improved sales, it would seem to suggest the search engine has been shaken so that different people are in front.  

May Day holiday in Europe, Lisa. Different from the UK, which is May 7.

« Reply #20 on: April 30, 2012, 19:03 »
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To those reporting vastly improved sales, it would seem to suggest the search engine has been shaken so that different people are in front.  

I think you're right.  When I was gathering my numbers, I noticed that I will have like six months in a row in the 115 sales range, and then the next six or so months will be in the 85 sales range.  It's been going on for a couple of years now.

« Reply #21 on: April 30, 2012, 19:09 »
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my sales at DT started slowly in April, but then in the last 2 weeks pulled back to the average slow trend upwards i've seen over the last 2 years

« Reply #22 on: May 01, 2012, 00:49 »
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I am seeing much lower volume the last few days.  I was optimistic of the new levels in that I've now got a lot of level 3-5 stuff, but sales need to pick up to take advantage of it.  My April was within a few dollars of March; sales were down noticeably (70% of March) but RPD was up to compensate so my revenue was even.  I agree with LisaFx that it is early in the new scheme.  Fingers are crossed that this is just a slow 4 days for some reason.  A month and we'll have a much better idea of the impact of the pricing changes...

« Reply #23 on: May 01, 2012, 06:07 »
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for me this was 0.00$ - just as it should be :)

tab62

« Reply #24 on: May 01, 2012, 10:19 »
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I ended April with only 4 sales- the lowest amount in over a year! They were my 2nd best MS company but now number 10...

« Reply #25 on: May 03, 2012, 06:47 »
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DT is now a mid-tier agency.

Maybe even the bottom of the middle tier.

This week it has been soundly beaten by BS, 123RF and CanStockPhoto, at least in my sales.

We've been talking about giving them time... a holiday week is not the best time to pass judgment.  But in a holiday week, everyone should be down.  For me, DT is the ONLY agency that is in the basement... the rest are all back to posting normal numbers.

This is a shame.  In my early days DT was my #2 agency.  Lately they've been #4.  But if these recent changes stick, they will be #8 or #9.

Is there still a great divide between big-selling veterans (lots of level 4 and 5 pics) and everyone else?  I can't be the only one having a miserable time at DT.

« Reply #26 on: May 03, 2012, 07:04 »
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DT has fluctated between feast and famine, every couple of weeks, for several years however these latest changes seem to have made the situation even more extreme.

Last month I did well out of the search engine issues, on target for a BME, until they 'fixed' the search and sales dried up again. DT still finished the month ahead of FT though, the first time they had done so since March 2008.

Having had a week of famine there are signs of things changing this morning. Hope so!


« Reply #27 on: May 03, 2012, 07:07 »
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Having had a week of famine there are signs of things changing this morning. Hope so!

For me, this morning has made the disaster look even worse.

I woke up to see about $30 in sales at SS, $30 at FT, $30 at IS, and $0 at DT. 

Hoping it's just the lag in reporting that seems to be routine at DT these days.

Ed

« Reply #28 on: May 03, 2012, 08:19 »
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May has been interesting for me with a TIFF sale (didn't even know DT offered that).  My image downloads are down but revenue is up.  I haven't had a subscription sale this month yet.

tab62

« Reply #29 on: May 03, 2012, 13:43 »
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I fear that DT will no longer be a winner for me- Last month cost me about 20% loss to my entire net income. This is a major blow to me since they were in my top 3....

wut

« Reply #30 on: May 03, 2012, 14:05 »
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May is utterly disappointing for now. I hope it gets better after this last change. BTW, April was a BME (meaning there's hope yet)

« Reply #31 on: May 03, 2012, 14:48 »
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... I can't be the only one having a miserable time at DT.

You're not. The search engine changes that helped gostwyck hurt me (as I have a "new" portfolio having only returned there last June following my stint as exclusive), and I don't see any signs of things recovering. The subs are still there for me and having a few more at 70 cents doesn't offset the lower volume enough to make things work.

On top of all the other frustrations with DT over the last few weeks, they accepted and then quickly rejected three shots of Aruba which had minuscule folks (masses of them) on wide angle beach shots saying they wanted model releases. They're insane - these weren't grab shots of bikini babes I was trying to sneak in, but more like city street scenes with blobs of unrecognizable humanity milling about.

So we'll see how things evolve over time, but they're right now just one frustration after another with not much (i.e. sales) to sweeten the pot.

Edited to add that I received e-mail from an admin at DT this morning saying that a new editor had wrongly rejected my images and they're now approved. Very nice that they wrote (and apologized) for that (and I didn't contact support; this was all their own initiative).
« Last Edit: May 07, 2012, 09:44 by jsnover »

« Reply #32 on: May 03, 2012, 15:11 »
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My sales last week were terrible; perhaps the worst in years since I initially signed up.  But today it finally recovered with $15 so far today (1:00 in California).  It'll be really interesting to see how is all shakes out by the end of the month.  Also, lately I've experienced an unusually high number of rejections (too many similars in my portfolio).

« Reply #33 on: May 03, 2012, 15:21 »
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I'd say it was crap but its not been that good. I'd be happy if my images got a view at the moment. I'm hoping it will even itself out............SOON.

Druid


 

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