Author Topic: Envato Elements? (Read 4964 times)

JohnTravolski · « **on:** October 26, 2021, 08:07 »

I have been uploading my videos to VideoHive and selling them directly there. I recently got this email:

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Hi [my name],

Your Videohive portfolio caught our attention and we think it would be a great fit on Envato Elements!

That’s why we’re inviting you, a valued Videohive Author, to join Envato Elements and take advantage of Triple Rewards for Video Authors on Elements.

Joining Envato Elements is an invitation-only opportunity, allowing authors like you to reach new customers and earn more from your new and existing Motion Graphics items on Videohive.

How much can I earn with Envato Elements?
To help you understand how much you could earn with Envato Elements, we’ve provided an estimate based on the average earnings per item for Motion Graphics on Elements.

Including Triple Rewards, you could expect to earn $ 190.00 - $ 220.00 per month, based on your portfolio of 120 Motion Graphics (on Videohive).

Triple Rewards is calculated as twice your usage fee earnings on Envato Elements customer item downloads of your Motion Graphics items, for 90 days.

Please note that this is an estimate only and may be less depending on the commercial demand of whether customers are looking for the type of items you create.

What do I need to know?
Selling Motion Graphics on Elements is an all-in deal. We will automatically transfer your Motion Graphics items from your VideoHive portfolio onto your Elements portfolio. This will happen one time for all of your existing content then on an ongoing basis for all new content you upload to VideoHive.

This sounds great! How do I get involved?
All you need to do is submit an Envato Elements application.

Once you’ve applied for Elements, you’ll need to pass an account history check and an author ID check. This provides a trusted environment for our customers and authors to conduct business, and maintain the success of our community.

Once you’ve been approved we will transfer your existing items from Videohive to Elements and you will triple your usage fee earnings on new and existing Motion Graphics items for 90 days from the date of publication!

Click here to check out the terms and conditions.

Thanks,

Team Envato

Is this worth doing? For reference I have been earning around $160 per month on average and the range they provided there isn't much higher. I'm not sure I understand any potential drawbacks of doing this.

For Real · « **Reply #1 on:** October 26, 2021, 08:43 »

Personally, I don't think very highly of Team Envato but that is just me $:-\$

JohnTravolski · « **Reply #2 on:** October 26, 2021, 10:04 »

Quote from: For Real on October 26, 2021, 08:43

Personally, I don't think very highly of Team Envato but that is just me $:-\$

I'm already selling on Videohive, I just don't know if there's much of a benefit to selling on "Envato Elements" vs. Videohive. I think Envato owns both.

Jo Ann Snover · « **Reply #3 on:** October 26, 2021, 10:23 »

Do a search for Envato Elements. There are lots of threads about it from the last few years. I left Envato before they set up Elements so I don't have any personal experience to offer, but do consider that the special offer is only for 90 days, and not permanent.

Lots of sites (including Canva; their boost was for 6 months) have used temporary earnings boosts or guarantees to entice contributors into a new royalty model. If you are concerned about your income from that site over the long haul then try to figure out what the income might look like after 90 days.

SpaceStockFootage · « **Reply #4 on:** October 27, 2021, 01:12 »

Yes, Envato owns both. The offer is for 90 days after upload, per clip, but runs until the 3rd of May, so anything uploaded on the 3rd of February or before will get the full 90 day bonus. I'd ignore the estimates they've come up with as I've no idea how they figured those out. Some people earn less than what they do on VideoHive and some people earn more (some considerably more), so it's impossible to give a prediction. However, I've never heard of anybody earning less on Elements and the marketplace combined, than they do just being on the marketplace... so, if you're already on VideoHive, and you're happy to carry on selling there, then it makes sense to join Elements.

JohnTravolski · « **Reply #5 on:** October 27, 2021, 23:09 »

Quote from: SpaceStockFootage on October 27, 2021, 01:12

Yes, Envato owns both. The offer is for 90 days after upload, per clip, but runs until the 3rd of May, so anything uploaded on the 3rd of February or before will get the full 90 day bonus. I'd ignore the estimates they've come up with as I've no idea how they figured those out. Some people earn less than what they do on VideoHive and some people earn more (some considerably more), so it's impossible to give a prediction. However, I've never heard of anybody earning less on Elements and the marketplace combined, than they do just being on the marketplace... so, if you're already on VideoHive, and you're happy to carry on selling there, then it makes sense to join Elements.

The way the email explains it says that my items will be transferred from Videohive to Elements. You suggest that I can continue selling my items on both. Do they let me sell the same item on both platforms?

Mimi the Cat · « **Reply #6 on:** October 28, 2021, 00:26 »

Quote from: JohnTravolski on October 27, 2021, 23:09

Quote from: SpaceStockFootage on October 27, 2021, 01:12
Yes, Envato owns both. The offer is for 90 days after upload, per clip, but runs until the 3rd of May, so anything uploaded on the 3rd of February or before will get the full 90 day bonus. I'd ignore the estimates they've come up with as I've no idea how they figured those out. Some people earn less than what they do on VideoHive and some people earn more (some considerably more), so it's impossible to give a prediction. However, I've never heard of anybody earning less on Elements and the marketplace combined, than they do just being on the marketplace... so, if you're already on VideoHive, and you're happy to carry on selling there, then it makes sense to join Elements.

The way the email explains it says that my items will be transferred from Videohive to Elements. You suggest that I can continue selling my items on both. Do they let me sell the same item on both platforms?

They will continue to be listed on both platforms ~ however you may find that Elements seriously undervalues your work.

SpaceStockFootage · « **Reply #7 on:** October 28, 2021, 00:36 »

Quote from: JohnTravolski on October 27, 2021, 23:09

The way the email explains it says that my items will be transferred from Videohive to Elements. You suggest that I can continue selling my items on both. Do they let me sell the same item on both platforms?

Yeah, they've not worded it very well... it's more of a copy and paste than a cut and paste. And to Mimi... while selling on Envato Elements might undervalue you work with regards to RPD, he'll make more money selling on Elements and VideoHive combined... so while I kind of see your point to an extent... it's slightly paradoxical that undervaluing your work, in this instance, results in your content having more value from a financial point of view.

stocky · « **Reply #8 on:** February 10, 2022, 19:17 »

How does Envato compare to the other sites? Is it worth joining them anymore? I heard years ago they were quite good but don't seem to get positive reviews.

Sundry Photography · « **Reply #9 on:** February 10, 2022, 20:56 »

Quote from: stocky on February 10, 2022, 19:17

How does Envato compare to the other sites? Is it worth joining them anymore? I heard years ago they were quite good but don't seem to get positive reviews.

2021 was my first year with them and they came in 5th position from the revenue point of view (5% of my total earnings).
They tend to be very picky with the photos and they don't accept editorial, so my portfolio with them is less than 1/10 from what I have on other stock sites, but if you already have the photos with metadata, the effort is minimal.

stocky · « **Reply #10 on:** February 10, 2022, 22:01 »

Quote from: Sundry Photography on February 10, 2022, 20:56

Quote from: stocky on February 10, 2022, 19:17
How does Envato compare to the other sites? Is it worth joining them anymore? I heard years ago they were quite good but don't seem to get positive reviews.

2021 was my first year with them and they came in 5th position from the revenue point of view (5% of my total earnings).
They tend to be very picky with the photos and they don't accept editorial, so my portfolio with them is less than 1/10 from what I have on other stock sites, but if you already have the photos with metadata, the effort is minimal.

That's good to know. Thanks very much

stoker2014 · « **Reply #11 on:** May 18, 2023, 02:50 »

Has anyone received a payment on Payoneer?

SuperPhoto · « **Reply #12 on:** May 18, 2023, 09:34 »

Here it is easily explained.

a) Elements = "subscription model" = unlimited downloads (so you probably get like $0.25/clip download)
b) VideoHive = "pay per use download" = whatever you set the clip (i.e., $25/clip)

It's good for envato - long term, bad for you.

Why? Basically - it's "moving" customers from the pay per item model to the super-cheap subscription model. So in the future - your work will be competing with people who are all too happy to get $0.25/clip - and you'll most likely be competing with craploads of spam. It's good for envato - because they retain the customers for themselves - and don't care whether it is pay-per-use, or pay-subscription - because either way - they still get paid, and they can easily screw around with the payment model ("oh we've decided we need 75% of revenue, but its GOOD NEWS for you!") - or they might not even tell you - because they use a magical formula. They actually prefer the subscription model because it tends to be more revenue (for them) long term. They really don't care how you do - because they can "afford" to "lose" a few people if things don't work out. They really don't care about you - they care about themselves.

That being said - in the short term - it's possible you will see an initial bump in sales.

So the question is - do you want extra money *now* - and potentially hurt your long term sales on that platform? Or... do you prefer having relatively longer term consistent sales at a higher price point?