O.K. I am a lone business like all of you, when my files are pulled from iStock I am looking for a place with a higher price point then SS. It makes no business sense for me to just deactivate files with no place to put them just because I am pissed. I am looking at GL and thinking lets start this New Site with one that is already up and running. I think Kelly will work with us and this will add a one two punch to iStock at the same time. We can launch a massive campaign for GL and feel great about where our images are. I think its a win win for us 

GL is a really fantastic site in many points, for the model release it's like a dream: just need to upload them one time and no need to attach them to each files! The site is fast, reliable, modern and very easy to use, the staff is very friendly and efficient. I think it's a very good choice, it needs only more contributors and customers.

Good luck with this. I've been down this road before, trying to lobby for a contributor-supported push to help build a good up-and-comer into top tier status. It doesn't work because no one agrees on what the right site should be.

Case in point, heywoody would support DT, while I disagree with that. I don't like DT's high prices and variable pricing. I support more modest pricing and simple pricing structures. StockFresh would be my first choice.

You'll get a lot of different opinions on which site is best, and ultimately no consensus, thus no way to move forward.

O.K. I am a lone business like all of you, when my files are pulled from iStock I am looking for a place with a higher price point then SS. It makes no business sense for me to just deactivate files with no place to put them just because I am pissed. I am looking at GL and thinking lets start this New Site with one that is already up and running. I think Kelly will work with us and this will add a one two punch to iStock at the same time. We can launch a massive campaign for GL and feel great about where our images are. I think its a win win for us

It could work as long as buyers move to GL as well.  That's the only fault I find with the site, they don't sell enough yet.  And if they suddenly did get a lot more buyers, they need to be able to cope with it.  I'd love to see it if they can.

I'm nobody's fanboy but the logical place to move within those parameters is DT as it's the only one in the same ballpark that does a reasonable price / RPD

<Sigh>  The only important thing about 'RPD' in microstock is the 'R' __ the REVENUE. Exclusives at IS have a terrific RPD but that's been clearly shown to be a weakness, not a strength, to their income.

I will do my own thing, it would still be better to rally around something new then to not. To bad we can't all agree to at least try

Well, my vote would be that everyone promote my site, but I don't think there is going to be a big rallying cry for that. 

Quote from: heywoody on January 15, 2013, 11:15

I'm nobody's fanboy but the logical place to move within those parameters is DT as it's the only one in the same ballpark that does a reasonable price / RPD

<Sigh>  The only important thing about 'RPD' in microstock is the 'R' __ the REVENUE. Exclusives at IS have a terrific RPD but that's been clearly shown to be a weakness, not a strength, to their income.

<Sigh>  It never ceases to amaze me how people react to what they think the point being made is instead of reading the actual words    OF COURSE revenue is more important than RPD but within the parameters the OP mentioned (higher price point than SS) DT is a more logical choice - DT is a player and GL really is not in the sense that it will never produce the income IS did for the vast majority of contributors assuming they can even get a substantial proportion of their material accepted.

Dreamstime is lowering prices each 6 months and sell almost only sub sales 

Also be sure to investigate how DT puts your images on pinterest. IMHO, that is almost as bad as what getty is doing, except DT is promoting the use of your watermarked images to be pinned and repinned many hundreds of times...with no compensation to you of course.

GL has been a no go for me.  They rejected a lot (even files that were accepted and selling well at other sites including Istock, SS, DT etc etc - I'm on 10+ stock sites).  I just found it waste of time to upload content to them and have lots of it rejected.  Then someone on another thread commented that GL was probably more into vectors, illustrations etc as against photographs - which if correct could be the reason for their rejecting so many of my good images.  If all this is true then GL is not really for contributors like me who just do photography work. 

But moreover, on top of all those rejections GL manages to get me very little sales. 

So for the time being - till it becomes clear what kind of content they want - and till they can get somewhere near decent sales, I think its just waste of time to upload to them.  I would rather support DT or another site more at this time.

only 75% Acceptance Rate for me on GL photos- but I am a newbie so cut me some slack - someday I will hit 99.99% someday...

While it's frustrating to have good photos rejected,  I think we'd be better off if some of these sites specialized a bit, instead of everyone trying to sell everything to everyone, and competing only on price.  So maybe the answer is more agencies, not necessarily large, but having some degree of specialization - people, or objects, or travel, or something else...  which could help buyers too, to some extent.

GL doesn't accept any people images or property released shots.  I'm out. Not worth it unless I can promote my entire port.

^^^Haven't they been accepting people photos for a few years now?

To be honest I didn't get past their application, which stated that as part of their upload terms DO NOT UPLOAD MODEL RELEASED PEOPLE IMAGES. So I just clicked "X" and took another swallow of beer.