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Here we go: 500px eroding prices

Started by MarcvsTvllivs, August 13, 2015, 22:50

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MarcvsTvllivs

https://support.500px.com/hc/en-us/sections/201205657-New-collections-within-Prime-Coming-Soon

TL;DR: they will introduce two different collections, the upper tier priced at current levels and the lower tier priced at "competitive" levels.

*sigh*

stock-will-eat-itself

At least they are curating their library which will hopefully resonate with buyers.

The damaging mistake is to flatten the price of all images. Supermarkets don't even do this, they have some brand differentiation on their product lines. Micro stock agencies are tech driven not marketing driven which is the root problem for everyone, including the share holders.

tickstock

"Pricing for the Core Collection will continue to be above industry norms for royalty-free stock photos and will never be priced at microstock levels."
Just my opinion.

stockastic

#3
Quote from: stock-will-eat-itself on August 13, 2015, 23:28
The damaging mistake is to flatten the price of all images. Supermarkets don't even do this, they have some brand differentiation on their product lines. Micro stock agencies are tech driven not marketing driven which is the root problem for everyone, including the share holders.

I agree.  They're all wedded to a brain-dead "one size fits all" pricing model which is a huge limitation.   And the reasons for this model are mainly technical.   Buyers of images are like buyers of anything else, they don't start out demanding that every product on the shelves have the same price - unless it's a Dollar Store, which is what microstock has made itself.

cobalt

#4
Sounds like a good idea. All files are not created equal.

Also we have to remember how cheap the prices on stocksy are, compared to all the macros and that the high prices on the getty website are just "list prices" and they might easily sell your file for a dollar. And eyeem is pricing all rf at 20 dollars.

The actual prices paid in macro are much, much lower than most people think.

I see this as an important step in commiting themselves to becoming a strong agency.

If they now solve the watermark issue, i would love to try 500pix.

Ronnie

I think the biggest issue is all about watermark  for me!!!

Sebastian Radu

Quote from: PR Image Factory on August 14, 2015, 04:30
I think the biggest issue is all about watermark  for me!!!

I agree ! I don't know why they don't resolve this problem.  :-\

Ronnie

Quote from: Sebalos on August 14, 2015, 08:09
Quote from: PR Image Factory on August 14, 2015, 04:30
I think the biggest issue is all about watermark  for me!!!

I agree ! I don't know why they don't resolve this problem.  :-\

I think they would like to keep the image look good, but they still can't find the balance between Image protection and visual, Im still wait and see!!!

Dragomir Nikolov

#8
Does 500px say when, in which date,  we can see this two collections. If process of curating of our images is finished or just starts? By the way at this moment we have two collections at 500px. Better images go to 500prime, worse arent approved there. My doubts are that prime collection will be with higher prices,  the same as present.  Worse images, which aren't approved to prime will be moved there as Core collection  in low prices.

MarcvsTvllivs

Quote from: Dragomir Nikolov on August 14, 2015, 10:24
Does 500px say when, in which date,  we can see this two collections. If process of curating of our images is finished or just starts? By the way at this moment we have two collections at 500px. Better images go to 500prime, worse arent approved there. My doubts are that prime collection will be with higher prices,  the same as present.  Worse images, which aren't approved to prime will be moved there as Core collection  in low prices.

500px is not a collection, as it is not up for sale. As for "better images" -- I have literally never had an image not approved at 500px Prime.

cobalt

Quote from: MarcvsTvllivs on August 14, 2015, 12:13
As for "better images" -- I have literally never had an image not approved at 500px Prime.

That´s encouraging to hear, it means as an artist you can create your own "flow" and have full control over your portfolio.

Dragomir Nikolov

There are many artists,  who have some images,  which aren't approved to 500px prime. This is the reason to think that these images will be moved to 500px prime as Core collection.

trek

#12
Quote from: cobalt on August 14, 2015, 03:16

And eyeem is pricing all rf at 20 dollars.


FYI:  Just found one of my best sellers in someone else's EyeEm port.  I wrote support to have it removed.  You all may want to check for your images.

Also isn't eyeem a cell phone photo only site?


Nikovsk

I wonder how are the sales on 500px Prime. Just signed up but upload seems very time consuming.
I'm afraid of the likes and all the sharing without watermark.

Is anybody making any sales with 300 images for example?
They also sell lower resolution $ 50 for web use, do people actually buy these?
It's better than most EL in the micro world.

MarcvsTvllivs

Quote from: Nikovsk on August 14, 2015, 13:33
I wonder how are the sales on 500px Prime. Just signed up but upload seems very time consuming.
I'm afraid of the likes and all the sharing without watermark.

Is anybody making any sales with 300 images for example?
They also sell lower resolution $ 50 for web use, do people actually buy these?
It's better than most EL in the micro world.

I've had sales, though very few, with less than 200 images. My best sale there netted me $275, which beats out every other site (although my images at Getty, for example, are priced higher -- I just end up with very little of it).

cobalt

#15
Quote from: trek on August 14, 2015, 12:52
Quote from: cobalt on August 14, 2015, 03:16

And eyeem is pricing all rf at 20 dollars.



Also isn't eyeem a cell phone photo only site?

No, the App is on tablets and smartphone, but you can use any camera, the same like fotolia or all the other mobile stock apps.

You "deliver" via smartphone, which supposedly means you can react much faster. Of course you can also shoot with your phone, many people do.

If you want to eyeem can give you ftp upload.

Many mobile stock apps have assignments that they want to fill quickly, the interaction can be nearreal time. Most important for the editorial photo assignment apps.


Mobile stock is a huge world and its own genre. I am still learning about it and haven't tried all the different marketplaces. The fotolia look is completly different to eyeem and then there are many others.


Eta: thank you for sharing sales data, that is very encouraging.

trek



FYI:  Just found one of my best sellers in someone else's EyeEm port.  I wrote support to have it removed.  You all may want to check for your images.

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Update:  EyeEm support replied quickly and fixed the problem.  Like that in a agency. 

Nikovsk

#17
Too bad they will be lowering prices... not sure I want to get into this.

If they lower to $ 20 = 14 for the contributor. If sales are rare, may not be worth my time unfortunately.

I guess I'll give it a try with a few hundred images.

jarih

New prices:

Core Collection $35 / $150 / $300
Prime Collection $50 / $250 / $750
"Money won't make you happy" © Kelly Thompson

MxR

Only 40-50 images, one sale (26,60)

No much time to upload.

MarcvsTvllivs

#20
Quote from: jarih on August 18, 2015, 19:24
New prices:

Core Collection $35 / $150 / $300
Prime Collection $50 / $250 / $750

Okay, that isn't too bad.

EDIT: Something else: While checking my port to see which image went in which collection, I realized that several of my images are listed as exclusive even though I never marked a single image as such. Has anybody else noticed that problem?

nuno

Quote from: MarcvsTvllivs on August 18, 2015, 20:03
EDIT: Something else: While checking my port to see which image went in which collection, I realized that several of my images are listed as exclusive even though I never marked a single image as such. Has anybody else noticed that problem?

Hey Marc, send us an email to [email protected] and we can fix that for you (or you can bulk edit using the photo organizer). By default the checkbox is unchecked so not sure what happened here and if we can figure out what happened I'd love to address it.

stock-will-eat-itself

Nuno, the curation seems a bit off.

Not the image quality which is very good but the collections themselves.

US Favourites has locations from all over the world, this image is also in UK Favourites.

https://prime.500px.com/photos/30725501/one-day-in-bagan-by-puchong-pannoi


MarcvsTvllivs

Quote from: nuno on August 18, 2015, 21:26
Quote from: MarcvsTvllivs on August 18, 2015, 20:03
EDIT: Something else: While checking my port to see which image went in which collection, I realized that several of my images are listed as exclusive even though I never marked a single image as such. Has anybody else noticed that problem?

Hey Marc, send us an email to [email protected] and we can fix that for you (or you can bulk edit using the photo organizer). By default the checkbox is unchecked so not sure what happened here and if we can figure out what happened I'd love to address it.

Thanks, I'll play around with the editor and if I can't figure it out I'll contact support!

trek

Thumbs up to 500px for jumping in with proactive contributor support.  Makes me want to join.  But please fix the watermarks!  Maybe add a move to center watermark option for contributors who worry about such things.