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Title: Is this the road where SS will go ..?
Post by: ole999 on August 24, 2018, 06:59
New contributor:

https://www.shutterstock.com/g/harshtrivedi298 (https://www.shutterstock.com/g/harshtrivedi298)
Title: Re: Is this the road where SS will go ..?
Post by: dpimborough on August 24, 2018, 07:48
Whats your point?  ???

Or are you Harsh Trivedi desparately trying to drum up sales for those poorly executed images?  ::)
Title: Re: Is this the road where SS will go ..?
Post by: obj owl on August 24, 2018, 08:16
Is this the road where SS will go ..?

Obviously not, no similar images to see, this contributor is niche.
Title: Re: Is this the road where SS will go ..?
Post by: PZF on August 24, 2018, 08:29
If you mean the quality of images accepted then yes, I fear it has already gone there though I am not sure you should just pick on that particular person. There are many.
It used to be an achievement getting into SS. Now.......
:(
Title: Re: Is this the road where SS will go ..?
Post by: nobody on August 24, 2018, 08:58
sadly, the road of where SS will go is already too late for us to turn around.  :-\
Title: Re: Is this the road where SS will go ..?
Post by: alexandersr on August 24, 2018, 09:10
New contributor:

https://www.shutterstock.com/g/harshtrivedi298 (https://www.shutterstock.com/g/harshtrivedi298)
Are you afraid because HarshTrivedi298 is a strong competitor for you?
In other hands, if SS control quality don't reject these pics is because they probably sell.
Title: Re: Is this the road where SS will go ..?
Post by: ShadySue on August 24, 2018, 09:15
New contributor:

https://www.shutterstock.com/g/harshtrivedi298 (https://www.shutterstock.com/g/harshtrivedi298)
Are you afraid because HarshTrivedi298 is a strong competitor for you?
In other hands, if SS control quality don't reject this pics is because they probably sell.
Or maybe the  OP has done an experiment to show that they're not controlling quality.
Or maybe they're making the point that if you pay peanuts, you'll get ...
Title: Re: Is this the road where SS will go ..?
Post by: alexandersr on August 24, 2018, 09:20
New contributor:

https://www.shutterstock.com/g/harshtrivedi298 (https://www.shutterstock.com/g/harshtrivedi298)
Are you afraid because HarshTrivedi298 is a strong competitor for you?
In other hands, if SS control quality don't reject this pics is because they probably sell.
Or maybe the  OP has done an experiment to show that they're not controlling quality.
Or maybe they're making the point that if you pay peanuts, you'll get ...
I think the second one is the most accurate. Because we don´t know the meaning of quality for SS. Their parameters of quality. Some people say they use AI for review pics, no human reviewers.
Title: Re: Is this the road where SS will go ..?
Post by: DallasP on August 24, 2018, 16:14
New contributor:

https://www.shutterstock.com/g/harshtrivedi298 (https://www.shutterstock.com/g/harshtrivedi298)
Are you afraid because HarshTrivedi298 is a strong competitor for you?
In other hands, if SS control quality don't reject this pics is because they probably sell.
Or maybe the  OP has done an experiment to show that they're not controlling quality.
Or maybe they're making the point that if you pay peanuts, you'll get ...
I think the second one is the most accurate. Because we don´t know the meaning of quality for SS. Their parameters of quality. Some people say they use AI for review pics, no human reviewers.

I'm thinking so ... they used to reject a fair load of my stuff but, I'm thinking I should just dump my whole library on them and let them figure it out. lol.
Title: Re: Is this the road where SS will go ..?
Post by: gnirtS on August 26, 2018, 19:46
The only rejections now seem to be for editorial caption or a faulty model release.  I havent seen or heard of a single technical rejection of any image for a long time and looking at a lot of the people on the forum with "why arent my photos selling" who have awful ones i dont think they do.
Its possible they're using AI to review captions and maybe even releases but i can't see any sort of human intervention on images any more.
Title: Re: Is this the road where SS will go ..?
Post by: Uncle Pete on August 27, 2018, 10:58

I'm thinking so ... they used to reject a fair load of my stuff but, I'm thinking I should just dump my whole library on them and let them figure it out. lol.

Go through and see what of your old rejects might have some potential, upload them now. I did a small number, and one actually has sales. The rest  were so bad, they turned my stomach and I couldn't do that to make my portfolio more  embarrassing. LOL  :)
Title: Re: Is this the road where SS will go ..?
Post by: Pauws99 on August 28, 2018, 01:01

I'm thinking so ... they used to reject a fair load of my stuff but, I'm thinking I should just dump my whole library on them and let them figure it out. lol.

Go through and see what of your old rejects might have some potential, upload them now. I did a small number, and one actually has sales. The rest  were so bad, they turned my stomach and I couldn't do that to make my portfolio more  embarrassing. LOL  :)
I did that but simply threw the lot against the wall to see what stuck 90% accepted and pretty reasonable sales..
Title: Re: Is this the road where SS will go ..?
Post by: Uncle Pete on August 29, 2018, 16:53

I'm thinking so ... they used to reject a fair load of my stuff but, I'm thinking I should just dump my whole library on them and let them figure it out. lol.

Go through and see what of your old rejects might have some potential, upload them now. I did a small number, and one actually has sales. The rest  were so bad, they turned my stomach and I couldn't do that to make my portfolio more  embarrassing. LOL  :)
I did that but simply threw the lot against the wall to see what stuck 90% accepted and pretty reasonable sales..

When I started, I took some really nasty crapstock. Of course back then, Upload on Thursday, accepted by Tuesday, sales by the end of the week. Maybe I could upload them as Blurred Background?  ;)

I had most of them accepted at places like 123, BS, Panther, Lucky Oliver, the small sites, at which time I thought "OK I have an idea, I'll upload to FT, IS and SS"

Ha Ha, rejected, nearly all. I had to take the test again for SS, but passed once I realized sharp, good contrast, clean, focused. Plus (another back then) downsized and submitted a variety of shots and styles. Passed in a breeze.

The second part isn't about quality but content, and I don't need to waste time on filler, to make numbers, if they won't every sell. I have a good collection of those too.

So when I actually do find something old, if it might have potential, based on content, I'll consider that. If it's something that's destined to languish everywhere, never sell, because of a poor choice of subject, I let it die.  :)

Numbers don't mean anything anymore. Besides I used to only upload one or two of any idea, rarely more. There are some old timers who have 800 of the same shot, with different backgrounds. Oh boy, and wonder why sales per image aren't any good?
Title: Re: Is this the road where SS will go ..?
Post by: Pauws99 on August 29, 2018, 17:37

I'm thinking so ... they used to reject a fair load of my stuff but, I'm thinking I should just dump my whole library on them and let them figure it out. lol.

Go through and see what of your old rejects might have some potential, upload them now. I did a small number, and one actually has sales. The rest  were so bad, they turned my stomach and I couldn't do that to make my portfolio more  embarrassing. LOL  :)
I did that but simply threw the lot against the wall to see what stuck 90% accepted and pretty reasonable sales..

When I started, I took some really nasty crapstock. Of course back then, Upload on Thursday, accepted by Tuesday, sales by the end of the week. Maybe I could upload them as Blurred Background?  ;)

I had most of them accepted at places like 123, BS, Panther, Lucky Oliver, the small sites, at which time I thought "OK I have an idea, I'll upload to FT, IS and SS"

Ha Ha, rejected, nearly all. I had to take the test again for SS, but passed once I realized sharp, good contrast, clean, focused. Plus (another back then) downsized and submitted a variety of shots and styles. Passed in a breeze.

The second part isn't about quality but content, and I don't need to waste time on filler, to make numbers, if they won't every sell. I have a good collection of those too.

So when I actually do find something old, if it might have potential, based on content, I'll consider that. If it's something that's destined to languish everywhere, never sell, because of a poor choice of subject, I let it die.  :)

Numbers don't mean anything anymore. Besides I used to only upload one or two of any idea, rarely more. There are some old timers who have 800 of the same shot, with different backgrounds. Oh boy, and wonder why sales per image aren't any good?
IS were really really tough but I learnt a huge amount from those frustrating rejections....people new to the game learn nothing now and just wonder why their images aren't selling even though the sites seem to welcome them with open arms and tales of how they will earn big money.
Title: Re: Is this the road where SS will go ..?
Post by: Thomas from France on August 30, 2018, 00:34
I'm waiting for the next exciting thing : pay for upload.
Title: Re: Is this the road where SS will go ..?
Post by: Uncle Pete on August 30, 2018, 09:59
I'm waiting for the next exciting thing : pay for upload.

Deposit Photo did that, ask most of the people who bought into the agency. There are a few who are making something and happy, many more who left.

Better yet, go read the Deposit Photos area here.
Title: Re: Is this the road where SS will go ..?
Post by: Thomas from France on August 30, 2018, 10:12
I'm waiting for the next exciting thing : pay for upload.

Deposit Photo did that, ask most of the people who bought into the agency. There are a few who are making something and happy, many more who left.

Better yet, go read the Deposit Photos area here.

I was thinking about a kind of « premium access » which would promise better exposure in search results...

I let you imagine the newsletter we would read...full of « exciting » words.
Title: Re: Is this the road where SS will go ..?
Post by: dragonblade on September 05, 2018, 09:22
I havent seen or heard of a single technical rejection of any image for a long time

Just recently, I actually got an exposure rejection on SS. I couldn't believe my eyes!
Title: Re: Is this the road where SS will go ..?
Post by: derek on September 05, 2018, 09:39
New contributor:

https://www.shutterstock.com/g/harshtrivedi298 (https://www.shutterstock.com/g/harshtrivedi298)
Are you afraid because HarshTrivedi298 is a strong competitor for you?
In other hands, if SS control quality don't reject this pics is because they probably sell.
Or maybe the  OP has done an experiment to show that they're not controlling quality.
Or maybe they're making the point that if you pay peanuts, you'll get ...
I think the second one is the most accurate. Because we don´t know the meaning of quality for SS. Their parameters of quality. Some people say they use AI for review pics, no human reviewers.


Exactly!!  poor imagery can sell as well as great images! and thats the platform SS i built upon!..fair enough I believe SS are losing serious contributors or simply not uploading anymore. I myself have removed more pics then todays port of just 2400 images and dont upload until I see new images selling.

The SS platform is built upon that contributors could be replaced within minutes, newbies applying all the time and thousands of them all thinking to get rich over night and free lunches.
As far as SS no one is infallible and everyone is expendible!  of course so is their company!
Title: Re: Is this the road where SS will go ..?
Post by: mindstorm on September 05, 2018, 11:37
I sometimes wonder if I am selling to a different SS than the rest of you whiners...?

1) I DO get rejections of submissions. Not a lot, but then I don't put up a lot of junk either.  My last batch of 126 images had 9 rejections today (all for "main subject not in focus" or "noise" -- a couple were a bit crunchy...).

2) I DO get sales on new images.  I uploaded a batch of Namibia photos last week of lions, elephants, and the like.  I had 21 sold from that batch just in the last 2 days.

3) My sales DO drop every summer. August is always bad for me. But then it roars back in September and is good the rest of the year.

4) I DO sell most of my portfolio.  Two months ago, I had 2500 images in my portfolio. According to MicroStokr Pro, 1729 of those images have had sales.  (I added another 1000+ in the last 2 months, as I went back and added stuff I had overlooked in my older stuff on my disk -- and yes, those are starting to sell too)
Title: Re: Is this the road where SS will go ..?
Post by: derek on September 05, 2018, 13:39
I sometimes wonder if I am selling to a different SS than the rest of you whiners...?

1) I DO get rejections of submissions. Not a lot, but then I don't put up a lot of junk either.  My last batch of 126 images had 9 rejections today (all for "main subject not in focus" or "noise" -- a couple were a bit crunchy...).

2) I DO get sales on new images.  I uploaded a batch of Namibia photos last week of lions, elephants, and the like.  I had 21 sold from that batch just in the last 2 days.

3) My sales DO drop every summer. August is always bad for me. But then it roars back in September and is good the rest of the year.

4) I DO sell most of my portfolio.  Two months ago, I had 2500 images in my portfolio. According to MicroStokr Pro, 1729 of those images have had sales.  (I added another 1000+ in the last 2 months, as I went back and added stuff I had overlooked in my older stuff on my disk -- and yes, those are starting to sell too)

Maybe you know something we dont??? ;D ;D
Title: Re: Is this the road where SS will go ..?
Post by: Zero Talent on September 05, 2018, 16:38
I sometimes wonder if I am selling to a different SS than the rest of you whiners...?

1) I DO get rejections of submissions. Not a lot, but then I don't put up a lot of junk either.  My last batch of 126 images had 9 rejections today (all for "main subject not in focus" or "noise" -- a couple were a bit crunchy...).

2) I DO get sales on new images.  I uploaded a batch of Namibia photos last week of lions, elephants, and the like.  I had 21 sold from that batch just in the last 2 days.

3) My sales DO drop every summer. August is always bad for me. But then it roars back in September and is good the rest of the year.

4) I DO sell most of my portfolio.  Two months ago, I had 2500 images in my portfolio. According to MicroStokr Pro, 1729 of those images have had sales.  (I added another 1000+ in the last 2 months, as I went back and added stuff I had overlooked in my older stuff on my disk -- and yes, those are starting to sell too)

Maybe you know something we dont??? ;D ;D

Yep, he knows what sells and you don't. As simple as that!  :P

If it helps, here are my answers to the above points:
1. I DON'T
2. I DO
3. Not really
4. I DO (~86%)
Title: Re: Is this the road where SS will go ..?
Post by: dragonblade on September 05, 2018, 20:30
For a long time, contributors on SS have been commenting that hardly any new images have been selling and it's mainly old photos that sell. My experiences weren't quite the same. I generally sell a mix of old and new. However recently, things have started to change a little for me. I'm starting to get less sales on new photos and more sales on old photos.
Title: Re: Is this the road where SS will go ..?
Post by: derek on September 06, 2018, 06:50
I sometimes wonder if I am selling to a different SS than the rest of you whiners...?

1) I DO get rejections of submissions. Not a lot, but then I don't put up a lot of junk either.  My last batch of 126 images had 9 rejections today (all for "main subject not in focus" or "noise" -- a couple were a bit crunchy...).

2) I DO get sales on new images.  I uploaded a batch of Namibia photos last week of lions, elephants, and the like.  I had 21 sold from that batch just in the last 2 days.

3) My sales DO drop every summer. August is always bad for me. But then it roars back in September and is good the rest of the year.

4) I DO sell most of my portfolio.  Two months ago, I had 2500 images in my portfolio. According to MicroStokr Pro, 1729 of those images have had sales.  (I added another 1000+ in the last 2 months, as I went back and added stuff I had overlooked in my older stuff on my disk -- and yes, those are starting to sell too)

Maybe you know something we dont??? ;D ;D

Yep, he knows what sells and you don't. As simple as that!  :P

If it helps, here are my answers to the above points:
1. I DON'T
2. I DO
3. Not really
4. I DO (~86%)


Wow mate!!  got to hand it to you! youre in a different league to the rest of us ::)  youre not from Ukraine or Moldova by any chance are you?
Title: Re: Is this the road where SS will go ..?
Post by: angelawaye on September 06, 2018, 09:03
I sometimes wonder if I am selling to a different SS than the rest of you whiners...?

1) I DO get rejections of submissions. Not a lot, but then I don't put up a lot of junk either.  My last batch of 126 images had 9 rejections today (all for "main subject not in focus" or "noise" -- a couple were a bit crunchy...).

2) I DO get sales on new images.  I uploaded a batch of Namibia photos last week of lions, elephants, and the like.  I had 21 sold from that batch just in the last 2 days.

3) My sales DO drop every summer. August is always bad for me. But then it roars back in September and is good the rest of the year.

4) I DO sell most of my portfolio.  Two months ago, I had 2500 images in my portfolio. According to MicroStokr Pro, 1729 of those images have had sales.  (I added another 1000+ in the last 2 months, as I went back and added stuff I had overlooked in my older stuff on my disk -- and yes, those are starting to sell too)

May I ask when you started? Are you in the .38 cent club?
Title: Re: Is this the road where SS will go ..?
Post by: Zero Talent on September 06, 2018, 09:16
I sometimes wonder if I am selling to a different SS than the rest of you whiners...?

1) I DO get rejections of submissions. Not a lot, but then I don't put up a lot of junk either.  My last batch of 126 images had 9 rejections today (all for "main subject not in focus" or "noise" -- a couple were a bit crunchy...).

2) I DO get sales on new images.  I uploaded a batch of Namibia photos last week of lions, elephants, and the like.  I had 21 sold from that batch just in the last 2 days.

3) My sales DO drop every summer. August is always bad for me. But then it roars back in September and is good the rest of the year.

4) I DO sell most of my portfolio.  Two months ago, I had 2500 images in my portfolio. According to MicroStokr Pro, 1729 of those images have had sales.  (I added another 1000+ in the last 2 months, as I went back and added stuff I had overlooked in my older stuff on my disk -- and yes, those are starting to sell too)

Maybe you know something we dont??? ;D ;D

Yep, he knows what sells and you don't. As simple as that!  :P

If it helps, here are my answers to the above points:
1. I DON'T
2. I DO
3. Not really
4. I DO (~86%)


Wow mate!!  got to hand it to you! youre in a different league to the rest of us ::)  youre not from Ukraine or Moldova by any chance are you?

You little cute xenophobe, you!  :-*
No, I'm not from Moldova, nor Ukraine, nor from any of those countries you constantly belittle in this forum.

I am obviously in the same league as mindstorm and many others. A league you can only dream about.  :P

 ;)
Title: Re: Is this the road where SS will go ..?
Post by: derek on September 06, 2018, 09:38
I sometimes wonder if I am selling to a different SS than the rest of you whiners...?

1) I DO get rejections of submissions. Not a lot, but then I don't put up a lot of junk either.  My last batch of 126 images had 9 rejections today (all for "main subject not in focus" or "noise" -- a couple were a bit crunchy...).

2) I DO get sales on new images.  I uploaded a batch of Namibia photos last week of lions, elephants, and the like.  I had 21 sold from that batch just in the last 2 days.

3) My sales DO drop every summer. August is always bad for me. But then it roars back in September and is good the rest of the year.

4) I DO sell most of my portfolio.  Two months ago, I had 2500 images in my portfolio. According to MicroStokr Pro, 1729 of those images have had sales.  (I added another 1000+ in the last 2 months, as I went back and added stuff I had overlooked in my older stuff on my disk -- and yes, those are starting to sell too)

Maybe you know something we dont??? ;D ;D

Yep, he knows what sells and you don't. As simple as that!  :P

If it helps, here are my answers to the above points:
1. I DON'T
2. I DO
3. Not really
4. I DO (~86%)


Wow mate!!  got to hand it to you! youre in a different league to the rest of us ::)  youre not from Ukraine or Moldova by any chance are you?

You little cute xenophobe, you!  :-*
No, I'm not from Moldova, nor Ukraine, nor from any of those countries you constantly belittle in this forum.

I am obviously in the same league as mindstorm and many others. A league you can only dream about.  :P

 ;)

No you are from Ukraine, so what I've been there and its a nice country and I dont understand why you put it down?? I joined SS in 2005, long before you and that says it all!
Youre league is ONLY micro-stock and that also says it all!
I know who you are behind that pseudo and you know who I am.

If you are doing so well in micro-stock! fine! but when people start dodging their origin, their countries well that makes me suspiscious. tsk, tsk!
Title: Re: Is this the road where SS will go ..?
Post by: Zero Talent on September 06, 2018, 09:51
I sometimes wonder if I am selling to a different SS than the rest of you whiners...?

1) I DO get rejections of submissions. Not a lot, but then I don't put up a lot of junk either.  My last batch of 126 images had 9 rejections today (all for "main subject not in focus" or "noise" -- a couple were a bit crunchy...).

2) I DO get sales on new images.  I uploaded a batch of Namibia photos last week of lions, elephants, and the like.  I had 21 sold from that batch just in the last 2 days.

3) My sales DO drop every summer. August is always bad for me. But then it roars back in September and is good the rest of the year.

4) I DO sell most of my portfolio.  Two months ago, I had 2500 images in my portfolio. According to MicroStokr Pro, 1729 of those images have had sales.  (I added another 1000+ in the last 2 months, as I went back and added stuff I had overlooked in my older stuff on my disk -- and yes, those are starting to sell too)

Maybe you know something we dont??? ;D ;D

Yep, he knows what sells and you don't. As simple as that!  :P

If it helps, here are my answers to the above points:
1. I DON'T
2. I DO
3. Not really
4. I DO (~86%)


Wow mate!!  got to hand it to you! youre in a different league to the rest of us ::)  youre not from Ukraine or Moldova by any chance are you?

You little cute xenophobe, you!  :-*
No, I'm not from Moldova, nor Ukraine, nor from any of those countries you constantly belittle in this forum.

I am obviously in the same league as mindstorm and many others. A league you can only dream about.  :P

 ;)

No you are from Ukraine, so what I've been there and its a nice country and I dont understand why you put it down?? I joined SS in 2005, long before you and that says it all!
Youre league is ONLY micro-stock and that also says it all!
I know who you are behind that pseudo and you know who I am.

If you are doing so well in micro-stock! fine! but when people start dodging their origin, their countries well that makes me suspiscious. tsk, tsk!

Do you even know what this forum is about, let alone this topic? Check the URL: It says microstockgroup.com. Please check the topic: it is just about SS.

So yes, I am clearly doing much better than you on micro. My suspicion is that I'm doing much better than you overall, but we can never know that, can we?

PS. If you think that I'm dodging my country when you claim that I'm from Moldova or Ukraine, you are clearly mistaken. Just for the record, since I guess I already mentioned it on this forum: I am from USA. Can you believe it? tsk, tsk, tsk...
Title: Re: Is this the road where SS will go ..?
Post by: dpimborough on September 06, 2018, 10:39
Oh dear, here we go again.........

Pass the popcorn someone  ::)
Title: Re: Is this the road where SS will go ..?
Post by: derek on September 06, 2018, 10:48
Oh dear, here we go again.........

Pass the popcorn someone  ::)

Dont bother I give up fighting noobs and rookies makes no sense. Let them have their likes and shares in a forum, who cares. These sort of people are never satisfied, they start a thread like " how was your July"...if you tell them good, they call you a lier, if you tell them bad they call you a lier, hahaha!....and this particular twatt iscalling everybody liers.

save the popcorn get some beer instead ;D ;D
Title: Re: Is this the road where SS will go ..?
Post by: Zero Talent on September 06, 2018, 10:55
Oh dear, here we go again.........

Pass the popcorn someone  ::)

Dont bother I give up fighting noobs and rookies makes no sense. Let them have their likes and shares in a forum, who cares. These sort of people are never satisfied, they start a thread like " how was your July"...if you tell them good, they call you a lier, if you tell them bad they call you a lier, hahaha!....and this particular twatt iscalling everybody liers.

save the popcorn get some beer instead ;D ;D

For the record:
1. I'm not from Ukraine.
2. I'm not a "twatt"  ::). That makes you a misogynist, on this forum, not just a xenophobe.
3. I didn't call you a liar, let alone everybody. I really believe you when you say that your sales have tanked, big time. You told me and I agreed that we are in different leagues. This is consensus, not a lie.
4. If you are on micro since 2005, it's so sad to admit that a "noob" or a "rookie" (see point 5.) is doing much better than you. You might have missed the memo, "noobs" and "rookies" (see point 5.) got, meanwhile.
5. I'm not a "noob", nor a "rookie" ;)
Title: Re: Is this the road where SS will go ..?
Post by: derek on September 06, 2018, 10:56
I sometimes wonder if I am selling to a different SS than the rest of you whiners...?

1) I DO get rejections of submissions. Not a lot, but then I don't put up a lot of junk either.  My last batch of 126 images had 9 rejections today (all for "main subject not in focus" or "noise" -- a couple were a bit crunchy...).

2) I DO get sales on new images.  I uploaded a batch of Namibia photos last week of lions, elephants, and the like.  I had 21 sold from that batch just in the last 2 days.

3) My sales DO drop every summer. August is always bad for me. But then it roars back in September and is good the rest of the year.

4) I DO sell most of my portfolio.  Two months ago, I had 2500 images in my portfolio. According to MicroStokr Pro, 1729 of those images have had sales.  (I added another 1000+ in the last 2 months, as I went back and added stuff I had overlooked in my older stuff on my disk -- and yes, those are starting to sell too)

Maybe you know something we dont??? ;D ;D

Yep, he knows what sells and you don't. As simple as that!  :P

If it helps, here are my answers to the above points:
1. I DON'T
2. I DO
3. Not really
4. I DO (~86%)


Wow mate!!  got to hand it to you! youre in a different league to the rest of us ::)  youre not from Ukraine or Moldova by any chance are you?

You little cute xenophobe, you!  :-*
No, I'm not from Moldova, nor Ukraine, nor from any of those countries you constantly belittle in this forum.

I am obviously in the same league as mindstorm and many others. A league you can only dream about.  :P

 ;)

No you are from Ukraine, so what I've been there and its a nice country and I dont understand why you put it down?? I joined SS in 2005, long before you and that says it all!
Youre league is ONLY micro-stock and that also says it all!
I know who you are behind that pseudo and you know who I am.

If you are doing so well in micro-stock! fine! but when people start dodging their origin, their countries well that makes me suspiscious. tsk, tsk!

Do you even know what this forum is about, let alone this topic? Check the URL: It says microstockgroup.com. Please check the topic: it is just about SS.

So yes, I am clearly doing much better than you on micro. My suspicion is that I'm doing much better than you overall, but we can never know that, can we?

PS. If you think that I'm dodging my country when you claim that I'm from Moldova or Ukraine, you are clearly mistaken. Just for the record, since I guess I already mentioned it on this forum: I am from USA. Can you believe it? tsk, tsk, tsk...

Not unless you do commissioned work 3-4 days every week and with a turnover of 154.000 pound/sterling per annum and 2 employees from commissions only,  Yes if you are doing better then I congratulate you and say I am sorry for arguing with you! :)
Title: Re: Is this the road where SS will go ..?
Post by: mindstorm on September 06, 2018, 11:35
May I ask when you started? Are you in the .38 cent club?


Not yet. I am in the .36 club. :)

Though I started in 2011, I only had a couple hundred images online until about a year ago (summer of 2017) when I decided to get more serious.  My portfolio has grown from about 400 in Aug 2017 to 3600 today, and I still add a couple hundred images per week.

More recently (last month) I have started getting serious about uploading video clips also.  I have about 120 of those online now, and probably another 200 or 300 by the end of this year.  No sales there yet, but I am just getting started, and I understand video typically takes longer to get traction.

If interested, here is my SS link -- http://shutterstock.com/g/mindstorm (http://shutterstock.com/g/mindstorm)
Title: Re: Is this the road where SS will go ..?
Post by: mindstorm on September 06, 2018, 11:38
If you are doing so well in micro-stock! fine! but when people start dodging their origin, their countries well that makes me suspiscious. tsk, tsk!

I have no idea why a "person's origin" is relevant???

FWIW, I was born and spent most of my life living California (USA, just in case there is any doubt...).  I moved to Ecuador when I retired in 2013, so now consider Ecuador my home.
Title: Re: Is this the road where SS will go ..?
Post by: derek on September 06, 2018, 11:42
If you are doing so well in micro-stock! fine! but when people start dodging their origin, their countries well that makes me suspiscious. tsk, tsk!

I have no idea why a "person's origin" is relevant???

FWIW, I was born and spent most of my life living California (USA, just in case there is any doubt...).  I moved to Ecuador when I retired in 2013, so now consider Ecuador my home.


Dont worry we were just beefing around with each other. Happens here now and then. Of course a persons origin dont matter! :)
Title: Re: Is this the road where SS will go ..?
Post by: Pauws99 on September 06, 2018, 13:30
I sometimes wonder if I am selling to a different SS than the rest of you whiners...?

1) I DO get rejections of submissions. Not a lot, but then I don't put up a lot of junk either.  My last batch of 126 images had 9 rejections today (all for "main subject not in focus" or "noise" -- a couple were a bit crunchy...).

2) I DO get sales on new images.  I uploaded a batch of Namibia photos last week of lions, elephants, and the like.  I had 21 sold from that batch just in the last 2 days.

3) My sales DO drop every summer. August is always bad for me. But then it roars back in September and is good the rest of the year.

4) I DO sell most of my portfolio.  Two months ago, I had 2500 images in my portfolio. According to MicroStokr Pro, 1729 of those images have had sales.  (I added another 1000+ in the last 2 months, as I went back and added stuff I had overlooked in my older stuff on my disk -- and yes, those are starting to sell too)

Maybe you know something we dont??? ;D ;D

Yep, he knows what sells and you don't. As simple as that!  :P

If it helps, here are my answers to the above points:
1. I DON'T
2. I DO
3. Not really
4. I DO (~86%)


Wow mate!!  got to hand it to you! youre in a different league to the rest of us ::)  youre not from Ukraine or Moldova by any chance are you?

You little cute xenophobe, you!  :-*
No, I'm not from Moldova, nor Ukraine, nor from any of those countries you constantly belittle in this forum.

I am obviously in the same league as mindstorm and many others. A league you can only dream about.  :P

 ;)

No you are from Ukraine, so what I've been there and its a nice country and I dont understand why you put it down?? I joined SS in 2005, long before you and that says it all!
Youre league is ONLY micro-stock and that also says it all!
I know who you are behind that pseudo and you know who I am.

If you are doing so well in micro-stock! fine! but when people start dodging their origin, their countries well that makes me suspiscious. tsk, tsk!

Do you even know what this forum is about, let alone this topic? Check the URL: It says microstockgroup.com. Please check the topic: it is just about SS.

So yes, I am clearly doing much better than you on micro. My suspicion is that I'm doing much better than you overall, but we can never know that, can we?

PS. If you think that I'm dodging my country when you claim that I'm from Moldova or Ukraine, you are clearly mistaken. Just for the record, since I guess I already mentioned it on this forum: I am from USA. Can you believe it? tsk, tsk, tsk...

Not unless you do commissioned work 3-4 days every week and with a turnover of 154.000 pound/sterling per annum and 2 employees from commissions only,  Yes if you are doing better then I congratulate you and say I am sorry for arguing with you! :)
What really puzzles me though is for such a successful person you still sell on a site whose owner you despise.
Title: Re: Is this the road where SS will go ..?
Post by: derek on September 06, 2018, 14:55
I sometimes wonder if I am selling to a different SS than the rest of you whiners...?

1) I DO get rejections of submissions. Not a lot, but then I don't put up a lot of junk either.  My last batch of 126 images had 9 rejections today (all for "main subject not in focus" or "noise" -- a couple were a bit crunchy...).

2) I DO get sales on new images.  I uploaded a batch of Namibia photos last week of lions, elephants, and the like.  I had 21 sold from that batch just in the last 2 days.

3) My sales DO drop every summer. August is always bad for me. But then it roars back in September and is good the rest of the year.

4) I DO sell most of my portfolio.  Two months ago, I had 2500 images in my portfolio. According to MicroStokr Pro, 1729 of those images have had sales.  (I added another 1000+ in the last 2 months, as I went back and added stuff I had overlooked in my older stuff on my disk -- and yes, those are starting to sell too)

Maybe you know something we dont??? ;D ;D

Yep, he knows what sells and you don't. As simple as that!  :P

If it helps, here are my answers to the above points:
1. I DON'T
2. I DO
3. Not really
4. I DO (~86%)


Wow mate!!  got to hand it to you! youre in a different league to the rest of us ::)  youre not from Ukraine or Moldova by any chance are you?

You little cute xenophobe, you!  :-*
No, I'm not from Moldova, nor Ukraine, nor from any of those countries you constantly belittle in this forum.

I am obviously in the same league as mindstorm and many others. A league you can only dream about.  :P

 ;)

No you are from Ukraine, so what I've been there and its a nice country and I dont understand why you put it down?? I joined SS in 2005, long before you and that says it all!
Youre league is ONLY micro-stock and that also says it all!
I know who you are behind that pseudo and you know who I am.

If you are doing so well in micro-stock! fine! but when people start dodging their origin, their countries well that makes me suspiscious. tsk, tsk!

Do you even know what this forum is about, let alone this topic? Check the URL: It says microstockgroup.com. Please check the topic: it is just about SS.

So yes, I am clearly doing much better than you on micro. My suspicion is that I'm doing much better than you overall, but we can never know that, can we?

PS. If you think that I'm dodging my country when you claim that I'm from Moldova or Ukraine, you are clearly mistaken. Just for the record, since I guess I already mentioned it on this forum: I am from USA. Can you believe it? tsk, tsk, tsk...

Not unless you do commissioned work 3-4 days every week and with a turnover of 154.000 pound/sterling per annum and 2 employees from commissions only,  Yes if you are doing better then I congratulate you and say I am sorry for arguing with you! :)
What really puzzles me though is for such a successful person you still sell on a site whose owner you despise.

Wrong! both myself, Laurin and fuego know Jon personally, not like pals but personally but Jon isnt running things anymore and havent been doing that for over a year and a half as if you couldnt work that out, sure! his got big stakes in the company but he aint running it. So how could I despise him. His been good to us. Shareholders have the power and they appoint anyone they want to!
Title: Re: Is this the road where SS will go ..?
Post by: Zero Talent on September 06, 2018, 15:32

What really puzzles me though is for such a successful person you still sell on a site whose owner you despise.

What puzzles me is, though such a "successful" person (allegedly making $200,000/year from his other job), he is spending so much time, on this forum, ranting about his SS pocket change, (maybe what, best case, max 4-5K/year? probably less) fueling various capping conspiracy theories.
Title: Re: Is this the road where SS will go ..?
Post by: Pauws99 on September 06, 2018, 16:08
I sometimes wonder if I am selling to a different SS than the rest of you whiners...?

1) I DO get rejections of submissions. Not a lot, but then I don't put up a lot of junk either.  My last batch of 126 images had 9 rejections today (all for "main subject not in focus" or "noise" -- a couple were a bit crunchy...).

2) I DO get sales on new images.  I uploaded a batch of Namibia photos last week of lions, elephants, and the like.  I had 21 sold from that batch just in the last 2 days.

3) My sales DO drop every summer. August is always bad for me. But then it roars back in September and is good the rest of the year.

4) I DO sell most of my portfolio.  Two months ago, I had 2500 images in my portfolio. According to MicroStokr Pro, 1729 of those images have had sales.  (I added another 1000+ in the last 2 months, as I went back and added stuff I had overlooked in my older stuff on my disk -- and yes, those are starting to sell too)

Maybe you know something we dont??? ;D ;D

Yep, he knows what sells and you don't. As simple as that!  :P

If it helps, here are my answers to the above points:
1. I DON'T
2. I DO
3. Not really
4. I DO (~86%)


Wow mate!!  got to hand it to you! youre in a different league to the rest of us ::)  youre not from Ukraine or Moldova by any chance are you?

You little cute xenophobe, you!  :-*
No, I'm not from Moldova, nor Ukraine, nor from any of those countries you constantly belittle in this forum.

I am obviously in the same league as mindstorm and many others. A league you can only dream about.  :P

 ;)

No you are from Ukraine, so what I've been there and its a nice country and I dont understand why you put it down?? I joined SS in 2005, long before you and that says it all!
Youre league is ONLY micro-stock and that also says it all!
I know who you are behind that pseudo and you know who I am.

If you are doing so well in micro-stock! fine! but when people start dodging their origin, their countries well that makes me suspiscious. tsk, tsk!

Do you even know what this forum is about, let alone this topic? Check the URL: It says microstockgroup.com. Please check the topic: it is just about SS.

So yes, I am clearly doing much better than you on micro. My suspicion is that I'm doing much better than you overall, but we can never know that, can we?

PS. If you think that I'm dodging my country when you claim that I'm from Moldova or Ukraine, you are clearly mistaken. Just for the record, since I guess I already mentioned it on this forum: I am from USA. Can you believe it? tsk, tsk, tsk...

Not unless you do commissioned work 3-4 days every week and with a turnover of 154.000 pound/sterling per annum and 2 employees from commissions only,  Yes if you are doing better then I congratulate you and say I am sorry for arguing with you! :)
What really puzzles me though is for such a successful person you still sell on a site whose owner you despise.

Wrong! both myself, Laurin and fuego know Jon personally, not like pals but personally but Jon isnt running things anymore and havent been doing that for over a year and a half as if you couldnt work that out, sure! his got big stakes in the company but he aint running it. So how could I despise him. His been good to us. Shareholders have the power and they appoint anyone they want to!
and who owns most of the shares? and who is the Chief Executive Officer and Chairman of the Board?