Author Topic: Me? or has my prime language failed me? (Read 21141 times)

a.k.a.-tom · « **on:** July 29, 2009, 18:35 »

Up late, surfing the web as I do occassionaly to see what pops up under my name or company... and I come across this.

Photo Club RF stock photo. Has my pix for sale. At the bottom of the page there is this;
this product uses the Fotolia API, but it is not certified, endorsed or sponsored by Fotolia and Photo Clubs is not affiliated or related to Fotolia.

http://photo-clubs.net/getMediaData.php?id=3488891

And at the top there is a shortcut to Fotolia. What gives? What am I missing? How do I know I'm getting paid?
Hope I haven't missed a thread on this somewhere...

=tom

puravida · « **Reply #1 on:** July 29, 2009, 18:51 »

scary !
did you write Fotolia to ask them?

a.k.a.-tom · « **Reply #2 on:** July 29, 2009, 19:10 »

Quote from: puravida on July 29, 2009, 18:51

scary !
did you write Fotolia to ask them?

No.. I just found this nonsense last night.... truth is, I cut my 'folio down to 2 pix on FT a long time ago. When I first joined I ran into problems with my earnings being eaten down my purchases I was supposedly making. I go in and see I bought something. I've never purchased a pic in my life anywhere. If I want a pic of something, I make it.
Happened twice. Big hassle getting that fixed, went as far as phoning ...forgot his name, Chad Bridwell?? to discuss it. I was asked if I had given my passcodes to anyone, was I downloading on a public computer and more nonsense.. I DID get my credits back but not until after Iwas left to feel like I was trying to rip off FT.
I left 2 pix on. One my #2 seller, figured I'd let it sit and as soon as I hit payout, cash in and delete. Well while that pic sells daily on 3-4 sites or more, it doesnt seem to sell at FT. And now I find it on these obscure sites.. and after reading how many have found unacceptable problems with their sales... I gotta wonder ... WTH?

I'm just getting a bit fed up with all the 'behind the scenes', 'dont let the left hand know what the right hand's doing' crap.

Perfect hot example now, StockXpert. WTH?

puravida · « **Reply #3 on:** July 29, 2009, 19:28 »

Quote from: a.k.a.-tom on July 29, 2009, 19:10

............Iwas left to feel like I was trying to rip off FT.
I left 2 pix on. One my #2 seller, figured I'd let it sit and as soon as I hit payout, cash in and delete. Well while that pic sells daily on 3-4 sites or more, it doesnt seem to sell at FT. And now I find it on these obscure sites.. and after reading how many have found unacceptable problems with their sales... I gotta wonder ... WTH?

I'm just getting a bit fed up with all the 'behind the scenes', 'dont let the left hand know what the right hand's doing' crap.

Perfect hot example now, StockXpert. WTH?

y'know , i've been feeling this is getting more ridiculous evryday. i know you from this forum from way back and you don't sound like some 15 yr old greenhorn that grown ups can pull the wool over your eyes. yet, lately, i am getting the impression that some of these CEOs in micro are starting to think we are all just that, 15 yr old greenhorns that they can scr#w around .
first, let's get the subs lower and lower until their commission vanish into thin air. hell, they won't complain. they will say, hey, as long as our dls increase and we still make more money, lower commission from subs , no problem. etc. etc. etc.

can anyone tell me, how truly confident we can be with these clowns running the business ?
tom, like you said, for example StockXpert. also !
everyone's in the dark. oh what, give them a new game to play, and nobody will ask questions.

hell, what has become of this business ?
is anyone listening out there to what we the contributors are saying, or feeling, all these times?
this is too much !

tom, i hope we see some changes soon. with your case and fotolia;
with StockXpert letting us know where t f it's going,
etc..etc...etc..

seems like there's only a handful of us here who is actually asking questions.
i feel like the rest have already been gassed with lithium and being the walking dead with no b#lls to speak up.

that's what happened before , remember. now, we see our earnings moving even lower. that's what happens when the sites know we 're desperate for their money, no matter how little.

shame !

a.k.a.-tom · « **Reply #4 on:** July 29, 2009, 19:39 »

Puravida... no sir.. I'm batting 60 yrs and I've circled this planet several times, and been up and down just about every road in life....

There's no 'wool pulling' here, some of this is bordering on just plain and simple abuse of business ethics. Some of these outfits are just festering wounds of complete distrust in their contributors. That's how I'm seeing it.

=tom

.... probably why FT will be the 3rd I've bailed out on this year.

Talanis · « **Reply #5 on:** July 29, 2009, 19:39 »

I checked and my entire Fotolia portfolio is there, even the pictures that got accepted yesterday. I guess they are a selling partner and they probably mean they are not endorsed by Fotolia because they are an independant entity, not a Fotolia sub-company.

puravida · « **Reply #6 on:** July 29, 2009, 19:46 »

Quote from: a.k.a.-tom on July 29, 2009, 19:39

Puravida... no sir.. I'm batting 60 yrs and I've circled this planet several times, and been up and down just about every road in life....

There's no 'wool pulling' here, some of this is bordering on just plain and simple abuse of business ethics. Some of these outfits are just festering wounds of complete distrust in their contributors. That's how I'm seeing it. =tom

.... probably why FT will be the 3rd I've bailed out on this year.

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if ever you need some lube, PM m@m .

Quote from: m@m

WOW! at the rate this is going, I'm seriously considering quitting stock photography and becoming a KY lubricant distributor, I have a feeling there's going to be a big demand for the product.
Boy, I'm glad I'm not a Fotolia contributor!----

a.k.a.-tom · « **Reply #7 on:** July 29, 2009, 19:53 »

Quote from: Talanis on July 29, 2009, 19:39

I checked and my entire Fotolia portfolio is there, even the pictures that got accepted yesterday. I guess they are a selling partner and they probably mean they are not endorsed by Fotolia because they are an independant entity, not a Fotolia sub-company.

I'm hearing ya, Talanis. But that sounds to me like a father who is giving the local 25 year old hoodlum the go ahead to date his 16 year old virgin daughter...
okay, I exaggerate a bit

but not too much. LOL

=tom

Sorry for going off so much tonite across the board...must be the chemo hitting the brain today!

willie · « **Reply #8 on:** July 29, 2009, 19:55 »

Quote from: a.k.a.-tom on July 29, 2009, 19:53

Quote from: Talanis on July 29, 2009, 19:39
I checked and my entire Fotolia portfolio is there, even the pictures that got accepted yesterday. I guess they are a selling partner and they probably mean they are not endorsed by Fotolia because they are an independant entity, not a Fotolia sub-company.

I'm hearing ya, Talanis. But that sounds to me like a father who is giving the local 25 year old hoodlum the go ahead to date his 16 year old virgin daughter...
okay, I exaggerate a bit but not too much. LOL =tom

Sorry for going off so much tonite across the board...must be the chemo hitting the brain today!

The loophole to all these "screwing around" is that there is no GLOBAL JURISDICTION on the www. If anything, few fraud cases get to be successful in gaining recourses , and the criminal tried and charged.

Closer to home, has anyone followed the recent case with the group of photographers who took Getty to court? Not a peep.
Need we say more?

a.k.a.-tom · « **Reply #9 on:** July 29, 2009, 19:59 »

Quote from: Perseus on July 29, 2009, 19:55

Closer to home, has anyone followed the recent case with the group of photographers who took Getty to court? Not a peep.
Need we say more?

Interesting.....

madelaide · « **Reply #10 on:** July 29, 2009, 20:00 »

I am a little confused here: are you surprised about the Fotolia API and the fact that they have this type of redistributors?

a.k.a.-tom · « **Reply #11 on:** July 29, 2009, 20:33 »

Quote from: madelaide on July 29, 2009, 20:00

I am a little confused here: are you surprised about the Fotolia API and the fact that they have this type of redistributors?

madelaide.... if it was all up front in plain language, shame on me... I missed it. But to answer your question.. I'm not surprised at anything that comes out of the FT stable.

=tom

m@m · « **Reply #12 on:** July 29, 2009, 20:40 »

Quote from: puravida on July 29, 2009, 19:46

Quote from: a.k.a.-tom on July 29, 2009, 19:39
Puravida... no sir.. I'm batting 60 yrs and I've circled this planet several times, and been up and down just about every road in life....

There's no 'wool pulling' here, some of this is bordering on just plain and simple abuse of business ethics. Some of these outfits are just festering wounds of complete distrust in their contributors. That's how I'm seeing it. =tom

.... probably why FT will be the 3rd I've bailed out on this year.

if ever you need some lube, PM m@m .

Quote from: m@m

WOW! at the rate this is going, I'm seriously considering quitting stock photography and becoming a KY lubricant distributor, I have a feeling there's going to be a big demand for the product.
Boy, I'm glad I'm not a Fotolia contributor!----

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Thanks for the referral Puravida...I'm having a special for FT contributors this month, 2 tubes for the price of one...and there's more... you get a AM/FM radio free of charge with your first order...

Talanis · « **Reply #13 on:** July 29, 2009, 20:51 »

Quote from: a.k.a.-tom on July 29, 2009, 19:53

Quote from: Talanis on July 29, 2009, 19:39
I checked and my entire Fotolia portfolio is there, even the pictures that got accepted yesterday. I guess they are a selling partner and they probably mean they are not endorsed by Fotolia because they are an independant entity, not a Fotolia sub-company.

I'm hearing ya, Talanis. But that sounds to me like a father who is giving the local 25 year old hoodlum the go ahead to date his 16 year old virgin daughter...
okay, I exaggerate a bit but not too much. LOL =tom

Sorry for going off so much tonite across the board...must be the chemo hitting the brain today!

I laughed a lot here because 15 years ago, I was 25 and started dating a 16 years old girl (her parents were cool). It was looking even worse though because I was her volleyball coach. 15 years later, we have two kids together and she is my soulmate ;P

a.k.a.-tom · « **Reply #14 on:** July 29, 2009, 20:53 »

Quote from: m@m on July 29, 2009, 20:40

Thanks for the referral Puravida...I'm having a special for FT contributors this month, 2 tubes for the price of one...and there's more... you get a AM/FM radio free of charge with your first order...

LOL LOL Thanks M@M... I think you may be the perfect replacement for Billy Mays... LOL, right on!

=tom

HughStoneIan · « **Reply #15 on:** July 29, 2009, 22:11 »

Quote from: a.k.a.-tom on July 29, 2009, 19:39

Puravida... no sir.. I'm batting 60 yrs and I've circled this planet several times, and been up and down just about every road in life....

There's no 'wool pulling' here, some of this is bordering on just plain and simpleabuse of business ethics. Some of these outfits are just festering wounds of complete distrust in their contributors. That's how I'm seeing it. =tom

.... probably why FT will be the 3rd I've bailed out on this year.

Tom, you have a logical fallacy there. Some businesses have no ethics whatever, nor do they know or care what ethics are, so how can they abuse what they don't have? Those businesses simply keep raping their victims repeatedly and get all they can out of them, regardless of how loudly they scream, until the victims fight back hard enough as a group (one or two fighting back are easy to eliminate). Then they will back off and look for another way to rape them that doesn't elicit strong fighting or screaming at first, and so on and so on. However, the good news is that most if not all victims are free to run away. It just seems that some are afraid to, which indicates severe emotional disturbance. And some just don't care at all.

willie · « **Reply #16 on:** July 29, 2009, 22:26 »

Quote from: HughStoneIan on July 29, 2009, 22:11

...

...one or two fighting back are easy to eliminate).

... the good news is that most if not all victims are free to run away.
It just seems that some are afraid to, which indicates severe emotional disturbance.
And some just don't care at all.

So true. Good point .

PixelBytes · « **Reply #17 on:** July 30, 2009, 12:54 »

Quote from: Talanis on July 29, 2009, 20:51

I laughed a lot here because 15 years ago, I was 25 and started dating a 16 years old girl (her parents were cool). It was looking even worse though because I was her volleyball coach. 15 years later, we have two kids together and she is my soulmate ;P

Congrats on the long happy marriage!

Gotta say I doubt I would be such a "cool" parent if I were in your in-law's shoes though.

Digital66 · « **Reply #18 on:** July 30, 2009, 13:49 »

Hi everyone,

I've been following this forum for about 1 month. Very interesting.

It seems all Fotolia's portfolios can be found at http://photo-clubs.net/
I was very scared at the beginning, but I clicked on a download button and I was forwarded to Fotolia website. So, I don't think we are loosing sales from such site. It's seem to be just a gate to enter Fotolia

Talanis · « **Reply #19 on:** July 30, 2009, 14:14 »

Quote from: PixelBytes on July 30, 2009, 12:54

Congrats on the long happy marriage!

Gotta say I doubt I would be such a "cool" parent if I were in your in-law's shoes though.

You know what? I'm not sure I will be that cool either if my daughter brings home an old guy too... lol

PixelBytes · « **Reply #20 on:** July 30, 2009, 14:53 »

Quote from: Talanis on July 30, 2009, 14:14

Quote from: PixelBytes on July 30, 2009, 12:54
Congrats on the long happy marriage!

Gotta say I doubt I would be such a "cool" parent if I were in your in-law's shoes though.
You know what? I'm not sure I will be that cool either if my daughter brings home an old guy too... lol

LOL, glad I am not the only one. Amazing how your perspective changes when you are a parent!!

When I was 17 I had a 26 year old boyfriend.

a.k.a.-tom · « **Reply #21 on:** July 30, 2009, 19:53 »

deleted by me... no sense making myself look more moronic than I already am

oh boy, thanks for watching my six, talanis!!!

=tom

Talanis · « **Reply #22 on:** July 30, 2009, 19:56 »

zWell, your maths were better than hers since 100 minutes at 45¢ is 45$ and not 450$

a.k.a.-tom · « **Reply #23 on:** July 30, 2009, 20:07 »

Quote from: Talanis on July 30, 2009, 19:56

zWell, your maths were better than hers since 100 minutes at 45¢ is 45$ and not 450$

God.... the chemo is affecting my brain.... LOL. Holy smokes, I cant believe I sat there and didnt realize what she said....am I a moron or what. glad she wasnt selling prime building land in Florida................ none-the-less, I suppose I still got a deal LOL LOL....
Thank you, sir. I may need you to accept all my incoming calls for the next 6 weeks while I go thru therapy...my brain has changed to oatmeal.. ha ha ha ha..

I suppose that answers the question I posed at the start of the thread...

=tom

It's me..

fotografer · « **Reply #24 on:** July 31, 2009, 02:20 »

a.k.a.-tom you are my new hero with your excellent positive attitude.

Quote from: a.k.a.-tom on July 30, 2009, 20:07

Thank you, sir. I may need you to accept all my incoming calls for the next 6 weeks while I go thru therapy...my brain has changed to oatmeal.. ha ha ha ha..

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