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« on: May 21, 2014, 11:29 »
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Hi guys, thinking of running lightroom on a bigger screen than my laptop. so i wonder what you guys recommend?

i saw imac as $1299, i would like to know for PC equivalent do i get a better deal? is imac display good for photo editing? if getting a pc, what kind of display screen i should look for? thanks.

21.5-inch: 2.7GHz
Specifications
2.7GHz quad-core Intel Core i5
Turbo Boost up to 3.2GHz
8GB (two 4GB) memory
1TB hard drive1
Intel Iris Pro graphics
$1,299.00


Tror

« Reply #1 on: May 21, 2014, 12:04 »
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you'll get much better value if you build your custom machine:
http://www.tonymacx86.com/home.php

« Reply #2 on: May 21, 2014, 12:26 »
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i think it doesnt matter windows or mac os.. but if i won't get a close deal for pc as performance imac then I may just buy a mac.

i read some comments that imac is more like a consumer pc..and the screen is too glossy?

i wonder what equivalent pc plus a good display cost? any model to recommend?

« Reply #3 on: May 21, 2014, 13:24 »
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Just received my iMac 27" i7 16 gigs ram, fusion drive. It rocks. Very fast. Will calibrate the screen and away I go. The glossy screen does bother me a bit. It's the first time I have not had a matt monitor so I will see if it is a problem. Others I spoke to were not bothered by it and my fingers are crossed.

« Reply #4 on: May 21, 2014, 13:26 »
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To add to the Mac case ... I  plugged my backup from the old computer into the new iMac and the programs, files, profiles, etc transferred beautifully. Not one problem encountered. When I have tried this with a PC .... different story.

« Reply #5 on: May 21, 2014, 13:31 »
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Just received my iMac 27" i7 16 gigs ram, fusion drive. It rocks. Very fast. Will calibrate the screen and away I go. The glossy screen does bother me a bit. It's the first time I have not had a matt monitor so I will see if it is a problem. Others I spoke to were not bothered by it and my fingers are crossed.


I love my iMac. I am converting from PC. The shiny screen needs cleaning a lot. Somehow seems to find spots that are probably from my club soda and spit when I am shouting on the phone >:( ;D

« Reply #6 on: May 21, 2014, 14:14 »
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Just received my iMac 27" i7 16 gigs ram, fusion drive. It rocks. Very fast. Will calibrate the screen and away I go. The glossy screen does bother me a bit. It's the first time I have not had a matt monitor so I will see if it is a problem. Others I spoke to were not bothered by it and my fingers are crossed.


I love my iMac. I am converting from PC. The shiny screen needs cleaning a lot. Somehow seems to find spots that are probably from my club soda and spit when I am shouting on the phone >:( ;D

 ;D ;D ;D

« Reply #7 on: May 22, 2014, 09:26 »
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i checked out some computer shop today, there are many choices of display. got any model to recommend?

since iMac screen is glossy, i guess maybe alternate is mac mini?

I checked out PC, mostly shop assembled unit which won't really be much cheaper.

Beppe Grillo

« Reply #8 on: May 22, 2014, 12:58 »
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I prefer a Mac Mini.
You put the max of RAM on it.
And you buy the monitor you want (Eizo, Dell)

« Reply #9 on: May 22, 2014, 14:59 »
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Beppe I have a mac mini i7 and found it way too slow with LR and PS. It only has 8 gigs of RAM (freak model that cannot be upgraded!)  and I am sure this is part of the problem, but I also know the graphics chip is causing much pain. My new iMac is much, much faster. I don't regret having spent the money on it.

Beppe Grillo

« Reply #10 on: May 23, 2014, 01:17 »
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Yes jrwasserman you are right, the "old" Mac Mini is enough slow ;)
But you compare a new iMac with and old Mac Mini, it is not fair.

Then it depends of your speed needs.
With a SSD or a Fusion Drive and 16 GB of RAM and your LR library on an external thunderbolt HD (or even FW 800) it can do the job enough well I think.
http://www.apple.com/mac-mini/features.html

And as I work with photos, for me it is very more important the quality of the monitor than the speed of the machine.
« Last Edit: May 23, 2014, 01:50 by Beppe Grillo »

Beppe Grillo

« Reply #11 on: May 23, 2014, 01:44 »
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« Reply #12 on: May 23, 2014, 05:02 »
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All true Beppe. Not really a fair comparison.

« Reply #13 on: May 23, 2014, 06:35 »
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All true Beppe. Not really a fair comparison.

While I love my iMac, I don't like having to wait for service. Generally you have to go to a store, schedule a technician to look at your system before they will even consider repair. That can take days. I just had a malfunctioning Apple keyboard and took it back to the store. They would not exchange it until I scheduled time 2 days later with a technician. I waited and they exchanged it.  Then my new one failed. I threw it in the trash and am using my old windows keyboard. That is an area where Apple needs to improve.

« Reply #14 on: May 23, 2014, 06:44 »
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All true Beppe. Not really a fair comparison.

While I love my iMac, I don't like having to wait for service. Generally you have to go to a store, schedule a technician to look at your system before they will even consider repair. That can take days. I just had a malfunctioning Apple keyboard and took it back to the store. They would not exchange it until I scheduled time 2 days later with a technician. I waited and they exchanged it.  Then my new one failed. I threw it in the trash and am using my old windows keyboard. That is an area where Apple needs to improve.

a lot of bad luck man, just got mine yesterday, still going strong ahah

« Reply #15 on: May 23, 2014, 06:45 »
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All true Beppe. Not really a fair comparison.

While I love my iMac, I don't like having to wait for service. Generally you have to go to a store, schedule a technician to look at your system before they will even consider repair. That can take days. I just had a malfunctioning Apple keyboard and took it back to the store. They would not exchange it until I scheduled time 2 days later with a technician. I waited and they exchanged it.  Then my new one failed. I threw it in the trash and am using my old windows keyboard. That is an area where Apple needs to improve.

a lot of bad luck man, just got mine yesterday, still going strong ahah

Don't spit on your monitor...lol

« Reply #16 on: May 23, 2014, 06:50 »
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All true Beppe. Not really a fair comparison.

While I love my iMac, I don't like having to wait for service. Generally you have to go to a store, schedule a technician to look at your system before they will even consider repair. That can take days. I just had a malfunctioning Apple keyboard and took it back to the store. They would not exchange it until I scheduled time 2 days later with a technician. I waited and they exchanged it.  Then my new one failed. I threw it in the trash and am using my old windows keyboard. That is an area where Apple needs to improve.

a lot of bad luck man, just got mine yesterday, still going strong ahah

Don't spit on your monitor...lol

hahahah

now I have to clean it :o ;D


Beppe Grillo

« Reply #17 on: May 23, 2014, 07:20 »
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All true Beppe. Not really a fair comparison.


While I love my iMac, I don't like having to wait for service. Generally you have to go to a store, schedule a technician to look at your system before they will even consider repair. That can take days. I just had a malfunctioning Apple keyboard and took it back to the store. They would not exchange it until I scheduled time 2 days later with a technician. I waited and they exchanged it.  Then my new one failed. I threw it in the trash and am using my old windows keyboard. That is an area where Apple needs to improve.


a lot of bad luck man, just got mine yesterday, still going strong ahah


Some long years, some not.
Sorry for your misfortune Mantis.
And my wishes for the future Luis.

I am still using my 7 years old apple Keyboard
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Apple_iMac_Keyboard_A1243.png

But my Apple mouse (the one with the clitoball) left me very fast.
I am a happy user of a Logitech one now.

« Reply #18 on: May 23, 2014, 08:00 »
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Anyone wants to run some benchmarks? :)

I can run something on my PC (like a complicated PS action) and we can compare times, so we have a quantitative measure, not just anecdotal data.

« Reply #19 on: May 23, 2014, 08:10 »
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Anyone wants to run some benchmarks? :)

I can run something on my PC (like a complicated PS action) and we can compare times, so we have a quantitative measure, not just anecdotal data.

go ahead

« Reply #20 on: May 23, 2014, 08:17 »
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Just received my iMac 27" i7 16 gigs ram, fusion drive. It rocks. Very fast. Will calibrate the screen and away I go. The glossy screen does bother me a bit. It's the first time I have not had a matt monitor so I will see if it is a problem. Others I spoke to were not bothered by it and my fingers are crossed.

Me too! Same, same with the big vid card. Put my old 30" cinema next to it, which works quite nicely (after buying the dual DVI adapter) then click 2 screens on Lightroom. Works like a charm. Very good for video too. Plays compressed video out of my GoPro and Canon without a hiccup. I didn't even notice the glossy screen.

Macs have their issues too. Since Mavricks, there's been plenty of issues of not sleeping FW drives. That seems to be resolved this last upgrade to 10.9.3

I know this is probably silly, but it's really hard to be creative, sitting and working on something as ugly as Windows on a PC. It can even fly faster and farther with fewer problems, but it's just so * ugly. PCs are for engineers with zero aesthetic appreciation.

« Reply #21 on: May 23, 2014, 09:40 »
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When Macs break it is definitely a problem and the service can be bad. The flip side is that having owned macs for over 15 years, I have only had one hardware issue, which was a fried hard drive. Every Mac I retired was still in good working order ... I was wishing them dead so I could justify an upgrade, but they just kept on ticking. The PCs I have owned are a completely different issue and were always plagued by problems. I love my new iMac!

« Reply #22 on: May 23, 2014, 13:51 »
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Anyone wants to run some benchmarks? :)

I can run something on my PC (like a complicated PS action) and we can compare times, so we have a quantitative measure, not just anecdotal data.


go ahead

Ok, done.

The test is from here and it contains both the file and the action:

http://www.hardwareheaven.com/photoshop.php

My overall result is 128.1 sec.
My configuration (without the monitor) was 955 euro, which means I paid 7.45 euro for a second.
« Last Edit: May 23, 2014, 13:55 by spike »

« Reply #23 on: May 23, 2014, 18:11 »
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Anyone wants to run some benchmarks? :)

I can run something on my PC (like a complicated PS action) and we can compare times, so we have a quantitative measure, not just anecdotal data.


go ahead

Ok, done.

The test is from here and it contains both the file and the action:

http://www.hardwareheaven.com/photoshop.php

My overall result is 128.1 sec.
My configuration (without the monitor) was 955 euro, which means I paid 7.45 euro for a second.


what a big page man, not ready to read it all, how about a smaller version?

Goofy

« Reply #24 on: May 23, 2014, 19:02 »
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Never had to clean my screen for spit but I did spell a whole beer directly into my keyboard! I tried to wash it out with hot water but the keys still kept sticking after it dried  :(



 

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