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ShadySue

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« Reply #25 on: October 04, 2012, 08:18 »
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How many gavel shots has Tony Stone done? If that's the stick you measure "higher artistic quality" by no wonder you can't find what you're looking for.
13, but not he himself.


« Reply #26 on: October 04, 2012, 08:35 »
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@oxman - do you like photocase? If not, is there currently an agency that has the type of hand-picked work you'd like to see?


I was not familiar with them. Just checked them out and typed in "gavel" and it returned a bunch of photos of gravel and no other options... so I feel that site has issues with content.

Regarding quality stock...  back in the pre micro days my firm used alot of stock from Tony Stone. That collection had a great feel and creative twist which is lacking in most stock. I'd like to see a micro stock with the style of the old or new Stone work.

http://www.gettyimages.com/creative/frontdoor/stone


How many gavel shots has Tony Stone done? If that's the stick you measure "higher artistic quality" by no wonder you can't find what you're looking for.


Just did.

« Reply #27 on: October 04, 2012, 19:34 »
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Thank you to everyone who commented. I actually really appreciate the negative feedback. After you peal back the top layer of cynicism, it's normally the most helpful. We will be keeping everything in mind as we continue development.

« Reply #28 on: October 04, 2012, 20:34 »
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New member here! Im posting because Im building a new stock photography site, and I would love to get your feedback on the idea. Were hoping to get early feedback to help us create a marketplace that will benefit and meet the needs of the photographers themselves. We think the stock photography industry is broken, and were aiming to fix it. Heres our concept quickly explained.

Sounds like a decent offering. Hopefully, it works out for you. Are you selling vectors too?

I'd suggest limiting the number of contributors you accept instead of limiting the images you accept. It's an easier goal to keep a smaller number of contributors with large portfolios happy with sales than trying to get sales for thousands of contributors with small portfolios.

« Reply #29 on: October 04, 2012, 20:49 »
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New member here! Im posting because Im building a new stock photography site, and I would love to get your feedback on the idea. Were hoping to get early feedback to help us create a marketplace that will benefit and meet the needs of the photographers themselves. We think the stock photography industry is broken, and were aiming to fix it. Heres our concept quickly explained.


sounds great, but unfortunately, we've already have a 1/2 dozen or more other  companies pass thru here in the last year with the same sort of business plan -- did you read the previous threads here before posting?

you failed to address the main problem this sort of site has -- how is anyone going to find you?  what are you going to do that will outweigh the established agencies in search results so that the 60% becomes a significant number?  sites like 3Dstudios offer large royalty rates, but theior sales have dropped to almost nothing over  the last year; that's ignoring all the sites which never managed to achieve any real amount of sales.

Microbius

« Reply #30 on: October 05, 2012, 10:09 »
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New member here! Im posting because Im building a new stock photography site, and I would love to get your feedback on the idea. Were hoping to get early feedback to help us create a marketplace that will benefit and meet the needs of the photographers themselves. We think the stock photography industry is broken, and were aiming to fix it. Heres our concept quickly explained.

Sounds like a decent offering. Hopefully, it works out for you. Are you selling vectors too?

I'd suggest limiting the number of contributors you accept instead of limiting the images you accept. It's an easier goal to keep a smaller number of contributors with large portfolios happy with sales than trying to get sales for thousands of contributors with small portfolios.
You may just have hit the nail on the head! That is how a new site should do it. It is how one of the small illustration sites manages to stay in the top 4 for most people that have gotten in. It also means you are getting feedback from a select few people that know the business rather than loads of noise from people that aren't really pros and aren't producing the goods in any case.

Carl

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« Reply #31 on: October 06, 2012, 04:39 »
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I like the idea and the concept, which puts you in direct competition with Pond5, who recently began accepting photos.  I determine the price of the largest file, and the system prices the smaller sizes proportionately.  I get 50%.  I've been selling video there for several years, which means they already have a presence and a customer base, which puts them well ahead of you.  I've stopped uploading to all sites except Pond5 and Alamy, and I'm working diligently to get my entire portfolio up on P5.  I think it could well be the turn-around of our race to the bottom.  I wouldn't want to be their competition because it would take a mammoth marketing effort and budget.  But if you're up to the challenge, I certainly wish you every success.

« Reply #32 on: October 06, 2012, 05:55 »
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@oxman - do you like photocase? If not, is there currently an agency that has the type of hand-picked work you'd like to see?


I was not familiar with them. Just checked them out and typed in "gavel" and it returned a bunch of photos of gravel and no other options... so I feel that site has issues with content.

Regarding quality stock...  back in the pre micro days my firm used alot of stock from Tony Stone. That collection had a great feel and creative twist which is lacking in most stock. I'd like to see a micro stock with the style of the old or new Stone work.

http://www.gettyimages.com/creative/frontdoor/stone


Ditto! Stone and image-bank, still reigns supreme in every single aspect. Know what the problem is? you simply dont have that kind of photographer nowdays, nor the editors nor the foresight. These people could spend two weeks on just one shot and thats without any photoshopping. In those days it was done by craftsmen, retouching, special-effects the lot. Remember Tea-bagging? you couldnt even get that sort of effect with PS!  and pictures sold like hot cakes and for thousands. You could open up a monthly sales-report and there was a neat sum of 10 grand in pounds sterling, others twice as much. Just look at their customers! dozens of the worlds biggest AD-agencies, designers like Conrans, shops like Harrods, Barclays, RR, BMW, range-rover, you name it.

Look at it today? 80% just do isolations and only because they think thats where the money is. Ive seen only one great port of isolations and thats by, RT, brillant, others are just copying.

Differant world, differant ladder.

I do wish the OP best of luck though, anything positive is always worthwhile.
« Last Edit: October 06, 2012, 06:02 by ClaridgeJ »

« Reply #33 on: October 06, 2012, 09:56 »
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 :) :) :)

The concensus is similar, the industry is at saturation point. 

Hope you find your niche, ive managed to start on a project aimed at a specific market. 

« Reply #34 on: October 06, 2012, 11:20 »
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:) :) :)

The concensus is similar, the industry is at saturation point. 

Hope you find your niche, ive managed to start on a project aimed at a specific market.

Oh I found my nieche long ago, back in the film days actually and still holds very, very strong today. However I am not too sure even that is enough in todays stock world.
Buyers, lets say 10-15 years back were quality conscious, some even to the extreme. Today very much thanks to the internet, buyers have become blase, dont really care and just seem to go for any old rubbish as long as its cheap. They are spoilt. This is the downside of todays industry.


 

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