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freepik should be terminated?

Yes [They are terminating already almost dead stock industry!]
27 (55.1%)
No [I love them much!]
3 (6.1%)
I don't care.
19 (38.8%)

Total Members Voted: 48

Author Topic: Poll on freepik [name just speaks for itself]  (Read 1839 times)

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spacedrone808

  • spacedrone808


« on: May 11, 2020, 11:56 »
+1
My opinion: people should stop uploading there before it's too late.
« Last Edit: May 11, 2020, 15:34 by spacedrone808 »


« Reply #1 on: May 11, 2020, 14:41 »
+4
There's more to it than that. They started as a worse-than-warez site scrapping our already stolen work from pirate sites and monetizing it in exchange for not having to credit to their site. That is where the money came from to launch as this "legit" bargain basement site.
They are literally the worst and if you upload there you have 1. No self respect and 2. No common sense (if you think you can trust them with your work).
Oh and * SS for continuing to allow them referral income.

spacedrone808

  • spacedrone808


« Reply #2 on: May 11, 2020, 15:18 »
0
108% Agreed.

« Reply #3 on: May 11, 2020, 15:39 »
+4
I just took a look at the site (I hadn't visited it in a long time) and it appears that Adobe Stock is their "partner"/referral site now. I didn't see SS images (but I'm sure they used to partner with freepik). I can imagine the justification from the agencies, but partnering with these bottom-of-the-barrel sites is very discouraging

I guess my major beef with freepix as a "premium" - i.e. paid - site is the 3,000 images per month for $11.99 (they say "unlimited" but it is all subject to daily limits). it's even cheaper if you pay for a year ($8.25 per month)

https://support.freepik.com/hc/en-us/articles/202567722-How-many-resources-can-I-download-?_ga=2.197257071.1985695260.1589226845-86432309.1589226845

Contributors get 50% of whatever the daily "take" is divided by their download tally. The site has about 2.5 million vectors and 4.5 million images (premium) so it's small compared to any of the other agencies.

The problem is that 50% of a very small number is a very small number.

https://support.freepik.com/hc/en-us/articles/212799769-FAQs-for-contributors?utm_source=landing-faqs&utm_medium=landing&utm_campaign=landing-faqs&_ga=2.129704140.1985695260.1589226845-86432309.1589226845

I have no idea how many actual subscribers they have, but look at the math with 1,000 hypothetical premium subscribers at $8.25 and a 30-day month. The daily take is then $275.

Let's assume subscribers don't download the 100 per day they're allowed, but only download 20. That totals 20K downloads total per day, so each has a value of $0.014.

Suppose you as a premium contributor get 50 downloads that day - your royalty will be half of 70 cents!

Even if you go with the $11.99 subscription and only 10 downloads for each subscriber ($399.67 daily take / 10,000) each download has a value of 4 cents, so your royalty on 50 downloads would be half of $2.00.

That's just madness

georgep7

« Reply #4 on: May 11, 2020, 15:53 »
0
I voted "don't care" because i did my fight during Greek coronavirus campaigns that used freepik images and i was called from idiot to "self lover" to put it nicely while i was trying to explain even what attribution is.

There will always be free sites, there will always be people offering their or other people's work for free and there will always be clients asking for free stuff. At some point, it seems useless to fight those insticts.

Sorry, i think "termination" is wishfull thoughts and "i love it" is true for clients and individuals.

« Reply #5 on: May 12, 2020, 04:46 »
+4
I was a premium uploader on freepik. There is currently a 7-8 cent commission to sell a picture. It is not worth it. When I started there the commission was 13 cents. Its getting worse year after year, our work is worth more than that.  >:(

« Reply #6 on: May 12, 2020, 10:16 »
+1
I was a premium uploader on freepik. There is currently a 7-8 cent commission to sell a picture. It is not worth it. When I started there the commission was 13 cents. Its getting worse year after year, our work is worth more than that.  >:(
Well duh, of course. Did no one warn you that it wasn't sustainable? These sites are something like a pyramid scheme, in that only the first people to sign up make any money. The longer term results are destroying the market for everybody. At least you found out now I guess.

Are you allowed to delete your content?

EDIT: I just tracked down an email when they were trying to recruit me years ago (of course I told them where to stick it) and back then they were offering $5 per 1000 dls so I guess they changed how they pay out. This was back when they were very open about automatically trawling the warez sites for images to resell.
« Last Edit: May 12, 2020, 10:22 by Justanotherphotographer »

« Reply #7 on: May 12, 2020, 10:25 »
+2
Oh no:

https://support.freepik.com/hc/en-us/articles/360024566073-Can-I-delete-my-published-resources-

"Can I delete my published resources?
As stated in the License of Works for Freepik Company (contract), that you sign when becoming a contributor, it is not possible to delete the published files if these have been in Freepik for less than a year."


(but not a surprise)

MxR

« Reply #8 on: May 12, 2020, 11:32 »
+4
If you close your account, they can sell your photos, the photos will remain in this agency for one year...  for a year without pay you any download!

« Reply #9 on: May 12, 2020, 12:07 »
+1
Oh no:

https://support.freepik.com/hc/en-us/articles/360024566073-Can-I-delete-my-published-resources- [nofollow]

"Can I delete my published resources?
As stated in the License of Works for Freepik Company (contract), that you sign when becoming a contributor, it is not possible to delete the published files if these have been in Freepik for less than a year."


(but not a surprise)

I look forward to the 1 year. I was still a beginner on the stock pages when I registered here. Fortunately, I uploaded few pictures.

« Reply #10 on: May 12, 2020, 12:08 »
0
If you close your account, they can sell your photos, the photos will remain in this agency for one year...  for a year without pay you any download!

Yes, it is worth waiting for this time, there is revenue until then.

spacedrone808

  • spacedrone808


« Reply #11 on: May 12, 2020, 12:35 »
0
I was a premium uploader on freepik. There is currently a 7-8 cent commission to sell a picture. It is not worth it. When I started there the commission was 13 cents. Its getting worse year after year, our work is worth more than that.  >:(
Looking at pool results, somebody like them!

« Reply #12 on: May 12, 2020, 13:52 »
0
I know a photographer who earns 180$/month on Shutterstock and 300 euro on Freepik.  He loves Freepik!

PS. It was 300 euro before they lowered the royalty rate

Shelma1

« Reply #13 on: May 12, 2020, 15:54 »
+3
I know a photographer who earns 180$/month on Shutterstock and 300 euro on Freepik.  He loves Freepik!

PS. It was 300 euro before they lowered the royalty rate

That sounds extremely unlikely.

spacedrone808

  • spacedrone808


« Reply #14 on: May 12, 2020, 16:19 »
0
If you close your account, they can sell your photos, the photos will remain in this agency for one year...  for a year without pay you any download!

Sounds like vomit rules.

spacedrone808

  • spacedrone808


« Reply #15 on: May 12, 2020, 16:28 »
+1
That's just madness

I suspect that they will lower royalties in a while. Almost sure.

Noedelhap

  • www.colincramm.com

« Reply #16 on: May 12, 2020, 17:21 »
+1
I frankly don't care all that much about Freepik. Unless they're stealing or infringing copyright, I don't think they can be that detrimental to the stock industry.

It's the major agencies who destroy the industry with a race to the bottom: SS, Pond5, Storyblocks.


« Reply #17 on: May 13, 2020, 09:17 »
0
I know a photographer who earns 180$/month on Shutterstock and 300 euro on Freepik.  He loves Freepik!

PS. It was 300 euro before they lowered the royalty rate

That sounds extremely unlikely.

I can believe that he once made that much. When I was first approached several years ago I could see the potential for the first few people who would stoop low enough to work with that kind of agency. You would have to really not give a single flying **** about ******* over your fellow contributors (and yourself in the long run too) though. As soon as there are more than a handful people on the site no one contributor has the volume to make any money with the pathetic RPD and sales are pulled from better paying sites.

With regards to the likes on the poll, they have accounts on here, they just don't post anymore since they realised no one was buying their BS.
« Last Edit: May 14, 2020, 02:31 by Justanotherphotographer »

Uncle Pete

  • Great Place by a Great Lake - My Home Port
« Reply #18 on: May 13, 2020, 09:49 »
+1

The problem is that 50% of a very small number is a very small number.

That's just madness

Double yes to that.

I know a photographer who earns 180$/month on Shutterstock and 300 euro on Freepik.  He loves Freepik!

PS. It was 300 euro before they lowered the royalty rate

That sounds extremely unlikely.

Perfect time to be a skeptic is when someone makes a claim like making double what they do on SS with Freepik.

"extremely unlikely" and highly improbable.  :)

I voted I don't care, because honestly, what does it matter if I care or not? How will caring or a poll change anything?

« Reply #19 on: May 13, 2020, 13:37 »
+3
I know it for sure. His photos are subpar and don't sell on shutterstock, though on freepik there is far less competition and they have a chance.

I know a few other photographers who make around a 1000$ on shutterstock and 200-300 euro on freepik. They also love(d) freepik.

Few more facts about Freepik.
I was personally contacted by their manager on instagram about cooperation, after I wrote to him, he never responded back.

I tried to upload some images on Freepik (you need to know your enemy to win the war), after 2 months of waiting for review I wrote to the support asking to delete all the images from the review queue. The support started to persuade me that they will immediately accept them all. After I insisted (and it was happening in the beginning of April right after they had lowered the royalties without any notice so I had one more reason to delete the images) they agreed to delete them. Guess what? They accepted them all and from that time they don't respond to my requests.

So you see how they treat the authors.

« Reply #20 on: May 14, 2020, 02:32 »
0
I know it for sure. His photos are subpar and don't sell on shutterstock, though on freepik there is far less competition and they have a chance.

I know a few other photographers who make around a 1000$ on shutterstock and 200-300 euro on freepik. They also love(d) freepik.

Few more facts about Freepik.
I was personally contacted by their manager on instagram about cooperation, after I wrote to him, he never responded back.

I tried to upload some images on Freepik (you need to know your enemy to win the war), after 2 months of waiting for review I wrote to the support asking to delete all the images from the review queue. The support started to persuade me that they will immediately accept them all. After I insisted (and it was happening in the beginning of April right after they had lowered the royalties without any notice so I had one more reason to delete the images) they agreed to delete them. Guess what? They accepted them all and from that time they don't respond to my requests.

So you see how they treat the authors.
Do you have an account with them still, as in are you getting paid if those images are downloaded, or did they straight up steal them when you asked for a deletion?

« Reply #21 on: May 14, 2020, 07:23 »
+1
I have. I can't delete the images for one year as it was mentioned before.

I am getting paid. In April it was 65 euro/month for 400 images (I was NOT going to upload that many items but I have forgotten to untick the checkbox in StockSubmitter) - that is why I believe when my friend with 9000 images in portfolio says that he gets around 300 euro there.

But I certainly will not upload any more.

spacedrone808

  • spacedrone808


« Reply #22 on: May 14, 2020, 08:23 »
0
Plain photos are already pretty dead genre, even superb ones.
Such sites as freepik just accelerate royalties degradation.
« Last Edit: May 14, 2020, 08:25 by spacedrone808 »

« Reply #23 on: May 14, 2020, 18:05 »
0
This company acts very intelligently for them. To the point that they know what other agencies sell and the next month they have it in their portfolio. In fact they do it very well, and in reality they are giving benefit to their collaborators. To the point that it is probably the one that gives the most benefit to its collaborators. The calculations are very rare and it represents not knowing this agency. Yes, they started linking to free sites, and now they are the masters of the market by far. But abysmal difference. And that does not work video, illustrations, editorials or case of the 70s from which modern customers flee. I am not with them. Because illustrations do not work and the photographs must be extraordinary. They know what they are doing and they rise like foam. The number one. definitely. New system that contributors are not used to. The daily profit is divided between them and between the collaborators' downloads. In addition an army of workers on demand, at the request of what they observe that is sold in other agencies and they lack material. Simple. Hard to control, but with great benefits for contributors. System very different from what is customary to work. They are very smart, they go to the business and they are number 1.

« Reply #24 on: May 14, 2020, 18:22 »
0
Their brutal traffic guarantees them advertising, referral market as affiliates and customer subscription, they are based on professional design clients with high knowledge of graphic design, direct competition with Adobe and the outdated Shutterstock dandruff that lives decades ago, when they were needed all objects in the world isolated on white background. They continue with the classic doctors in white coats. Of the benefit of subscriptions they divide it into days, a percentage of the profit of that day for them, the rest of the value of the day is divided into sections between their contributors who have downloads that day. They can only grow.

I don't like them, but obviously they don't fail, I only succeed after success every month.



In addition, I suppose that the collaborators on demand must be salaried personnel within the company, company workers, not self-employed, not free staff. I don't like them at all, but they certainly drink the market.
« Last Edit: May 14, 2020, 18:25 by Tenebroso »


 

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