I saw one of my exclusive clips on Adobestock. How is this exclusive at all? SMH

I guess you didn't read the agreement?

As long as they get a cut, they don't care the slightest little bit about exclusivity. The P5 "exclusive" program is exclusive in no other way than you exclusively giving them money.

Yes, I can accept the business decision to reward exclusivity with a higher percentage. That is a very rational thing to do, from a business standpoint. You are exclusive to Pond5, the business, not the customer.

But I can't stand 46 minutes of bull**** along with the artist testimonials... I mean, just be honest and straightforward. It pays off.

Trying to spin it as being exclusive to the customer is just absurd.

Prediction:
A year from now Pond5 exclusivity will be 50% royalty.

Quote from: thirdbornentertainment on May 23, 2019, 02:04

I saw one of my exclusive clips on Adobestock. How is this exclusive at all? SMH

Did you opt into the Pond5 Partner program?

I'm not sure if I did, didn't see that option pop up when I signed up. Regardless, this exclusive program is officially a sham.

Quote from: trek on May 23, 2019, 06:16

Quote from: thirdbornentertainment on May 23, 2019, 02:04

I saw one of my exclusive clips on Adobestock. How is this exclusive at all? SMH

Did you opt into the Pond5 Partner program?

I'm not sure if I did, didn't see that option pop up when I signed up. Regardless, this exclusive program is officially a sham.

Check your Pond 5 account preferences page.  The opt in and out for the Global Partner Program and other items are there. 

Not a sham....but not explained very well either. By having "exclusive" clips Pond5 is able to distribute them to partner agencies while controlling the prices. Based on what P5 told us, they have contracts with partner agencies where the partner will have to sell at/around the price YOU set for your exclusive clips on Pond5.

"Based on what P5 told us"
That is a lie.

Not a sham....but not explained very well either. By having "exclusive" clips Pond5 is able to distribute them to partner agencies while controlling the prices. Based on what P5 told us, they have contracts with partner agencies where the partner will have to sell at/around the price YOU set for your exclusive clips on Pond5.

And say you make a sale on Adobe with one of your P5 "Exclusive" clips. Do you still retain 60% of the royalties of the price you set, or 60% of what's leftover after Adobe or Vimeo take their cut?

Today I found my videos from Pond5 on Vimeo Stock page. One of this videos was deleted more than 6 months ago on Pond5 but still selling on Vimeo?! what

I never Opt in GLOBAL PARTNER PROGRAM on Pond5 preferences.

Already send tickets to Vimeo and Pond5!

If you read/saw the license agreement signing up for exclusivity - yes - they said they would re-submit to adobestock & vimeostock and 'many more' in the future...

It's an interesting business arrangement for them - because they now get a cut of profits from content on other agencies (as do you, if it sells)... But you are restricted in that you can't list that content on the other 50+ video/etc agencies available, and have to wait for pond5 to do it for you...

As far as I can tell - there is not really any additional marketing of 'your' content going on other than listing on 2 other agencies, and having the word 'exclusive' on their site... I think it is a bit of a raw deal for those who signed up - but - there are some believers - so - maybe I am mistaken and their sales will skyrocket... time will tell.


If they actually did a lot of extensive marketing on your end, i.e.,
- listing on 50+ agencies on your behalf (unlikely with even the best salesmen, a 'really' good team might be able to get 10/15 of those)
- extensive marketing on platforms like google ads, bing, facebook, etc, etc - "specifically" for your clips
- other marketing methods to enhance 'exclusive' sales,

then I think it would be a fantastic deal.

BUT.
a) You've got random content from everywhere (so it may be "exclusive" in that the author agreed to sell it elsewhere, but the nature of the content is not necessarily desirably exclusive from a purchasers perspective)
b) I can't really see them doing the google/FB/bing advertising (it actually requires a lot of skill nowadays to see a good ROI, let alone 'a' ROI from those platforms because of competition)
c) and I believe the "work" they've done is simply brokering 2 deals with vimeostock & adobestock (vimeo is harder to get in at the moment), and adding the 'exclusive' watermark...

So...........

You might see a (small) overall increase in your sales on the Pond5 platform because of a higher commission (20% difference)...

BUT... long term I think you are hurting yourself, because you lose out on sales on other platforms you could submit to by yourself.

That being said - one platform that was 'in a way' successful was Envato - but:
a) They had dirt cheap clips for the longest time (I think 10+ years)
b) from the start their arrangement was pretty crappy if you were a regular contributor - so it was the 'promise' of getting most of your sales (I think it is/was @ $70,000 in sales you then get 85% of the sale price).

But envato has been a bit dishonest, in that they doubletax a number of people without tax treaties (so your net percentage is lower), and somehow have managed to get away with it for a very long time. But, they do it.

Explained clearly for anybody who can read, the exclusive was so they could distribute to Adobe, Vimeostock and maybe others without duplication from our own accounts. I went exclusive because of this added exposure.