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Started by TonyD, March 14, 2023, 11:22

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yougogirl

Quote from: photostockad on June 12, 2023, 16:35
Same problem. I am contributor for more than 10 years, with approval rate above 95% (main rejections regarding intellectual property). Today I've got a 100% rejection on a set, quality issues. I don't think I've changed my editing style/skills in the past months/year and my images are all accepted on the all other big agencies.

Same here. I've been getting some ridiculous rejections in the past week from adobe when in the past, I have about a 95% acceptance rate like you. I would like to know what's going on and what, if anything, changed.

TonyD

Quote from: yougogirl on June 12, 2023, 17:51
Quote from: photostockad on June 12, 2023, 16:35
Same problem. I am contributor for more than 10 years, with approval rate above 95% (main rejections regarding intellectual property). Today I've got a 100% rejection on a set, quality issues. I don't think I've changed my editing style/skills in the past months/year and my images are all accepted on the all other big agencies.

Same here. I've been getting some ridiculous rejections in the past week from adobe when in the past, I have about a 95% acceptance rate like you. I would like to know what's going on and what, if anything, changed.
Maybe some reviewers from SS have jumped ship & joined Adobe

TonyD

Quote from: yougogirl on June 12, 2023, 17:51
Quote from: photostockad on June 12, 2023, 16:35
Same problem. I am contributor for more than 10 years, with approval rate above 95% (main rejections regarding intellectual property). Today I've got a 100% rejection on a set, quality issues. I don't think I've changed my editing style/skills in the past months/year and my images are all accepted on the all other big agencies.

Same here. I've been getting some ridiculous rejections in the past week from adobe when in the past, I have about a 95% acceptance rate like you. I would like to know what's going on and what, if anything, changed.
Maybe some reviewers from SS have jumped ship & joined Adobe

Lizzy Waters

Now, the rejections on Adobe get ridiculous. I had two photos of Cartagena (townhall and Roman theatre) rejected because they are too similar to previously submitted photos in my portfolio. I have never been to Cartagena before, so these two are my first photos of Cartagena ever submitted. In my portfolio of 2500 images I have 8 pics of town halls of several cities. Does this rejection reason mean that the townhall of city A is too similar to the townhall of city B? And I am not allowed to submit photos of townhalls of different cities? What worries me, people get their account closed because of similarity. So, when I submit a further townhall from another city I will risk to get my account closed? I don't understand these rejection rules and how a "reviewer" (AI?) can think the townhall of city A is the same as of city B.

DiscreetDuck

Quote from: Lizzy Waters on June 13, 2023, 09:35
Now, the rejections on Adobe get ridiculous. I had two photos of Cartagena (townhall and Roman theatre) rejected because they are too similar to previously submitted photos in my portfolio. I have never been to Cartagena before, so these two are my first photos of Cartagena ever submitted. In my portfolio of 2500 images I have 8 pics of town halls of several cities. Does this rejection reason mean that the townhall of city A is too similar to the townhall of city B? And I am not allowed to submit photos of townhalls of different cities? What worries me, people get their account closed because of similarity. So, when I submit a further townhall from another city I will risk to get my account closed? I don't understand these rejection rules and how a "reviewer" (AI?) can think the townhall of city A is the same as of city B.
But... rest assured, Adobe is thinking about a mode of compensation for contributors who suffer unfair rejection of their beautiful photos which required so much talent, time and work from them.  ::)

dirkr

Quote from: Lizzy Waters on June 13, 2023, 09:35
Now, the rejections on Adobe get ridiculous. I had two photos of Cartagena (townhall and Roman theatre) rejected because they are too similar to previously submitted photos in my portfolio. I have never been to Cartagena before, so these two are my first photos of Cartagena ever submitted. In my portfolio of 2500 images I have 8 pics of town halls of several cities. Does this rejection reason mean that the townhall of city A is too similar to the townhall of city B? And I am not allowed to submit photos of townhalls of different cities? What worries me, people get their account closed because of similarity. So, when I submit a further townhall from another city I will risk to get my account closed? I don't understand these rejection rules and how a "reviewer" (AI?) can think the townhall of city A is the same as of city B.

Had something similar last week. 8 of 10 rejected for being "too similar".
One of them a wildlife image of a bird, never in my life had taken a photo of that species before.

And it explicitly says too similar to other images in your portfolio, not too similar to others on the site.

Obviously something is broken, but Adobe won't admit it...

Reimar

I can add my voice to the mystery of recent rejections.  I had 8 rejected for Quality Issues.  The explanation for not meeting their "standard" is: "Common issues that can impact the technical quality of images include exposure issues, soft focus, excessive filtering or artifacts/noise."  Soft focus?  I downsampled the 130 MB files to 60 MB (45.4 Mpixel to 21 Mp).  Still, all were rejected again.  I've never seen this before.  Something has changed.

Uncle Pete

Quote from: TonyD on June 12, 2023, 20:15
Quote from: yougogirl on June 12, 2023, 17:51
Quote from: photostockad on June 12, 2023, 16:35
Same problem. I am contributor for more than 10 years, with approval rate above 95% (main rejections regarding intellectual property). Today I've got a 100% rejection on a set, quality issues. I don't think I've changed my editing style/skills in the past months/year and my images are all accepted on the all other big agencies.

Same here. I've been getting some ridiculous rejections in the past week from adobe when in the past, I have about a 95% acceptance rate like you. I would like to know what's going on and what, if anything, changed.
Maybe some reviewers from SS have jumped ship & joined Adobe

LOL they used to say the same thing about IS reviewers going to SS.
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cobalt

Quote from: Lizzy Waters on June 13, 2023, 09:35
Now, the rejections on Adobe get ridiculous. I had two photos of Cartagena (townhall and Roman theatre) rejected because they are too similar to previously submitted photos in my portfolio. I have never been to Cartagena before, so these two are my first photos of Cartagena ever submitted. In my portfolio of 2500 images I have 8 pics of town halls of several cities. Does this rejection reason mean that the townhall of city A is too similar to the townhall of city B? And I am not allowed to submit photos of townhalls of different cities? What worries me, people get their account closed because of similarity. So, when I submit a further townhall from another city I will risk to get my account closed? I don't understand these rejection rules and how a "reviewer" (AI?) can think the townhall of city A is the same as of city B.

That is completely crazy.

So now we can only upload one image of a church or mountain and no other similar looking locations forever?

I hope Adobe revists their inspection process. Nothing about this is normal.

Unless they really want to lower their photo section in favor of mostly ai images.

Uncle Pete

Quote from: dirkr on June 13, 2023, 16:14
Quote from: Lizzy Waters on June 13, 2023, 09:35
Now, the rejections on Adobe get ridiculous. I had two photos of Cartagena (townhall and Roman theatre) rejected because they are too similar to previously submitted photos in my portfolio. I have never been to Cartagena before, so these two are my first photos of Cartagena ever submitted. In my portfolio of 2500 images I have 8 pics of town halls of several cities. Does this rejection reason mean that the townhall of city A is too similar to the townhall of city B? And I am not allowed to submit photos of townhalls of different cities? What worries me, people get their account closed because of similarity. So, when I submit a further townhall from another city I will risk to get my account closed? I don't understand these rejection rules and how a "reviewer" (AI?) can think the townhall of city A is the same as of city B.

Had something similar last week. 8 of 10 rejected for being "too similar".
One of them a wildlife image of a bird, never in my life had taken a photo of that species before.

And it explicitly says too similar to other images in your portfolio, not too similar to others on the site.

Obviously something is broken, but Adobe won't admit it...

You're correct, something is broken.

Here's what they say:

Every file you submit needs to offer something unique. Submitting multiple copies of identical or similar content can be perceived as spamming. Our moderation team will reject similar content, and spamming can lead to your account being blocked or permanently closed.

Although we have had some relies that it means, too similar to other content, I don't see that on the help pages.

Adobe Site: Similar vs Spam  https://helpx.adobe.com/stock/contributor/help/similar-vs-spamming.html

Doesn't say similar to other artists content.

One flower is not the same as all other flowers and in your case, one town hall in one location, should not be, too similar to another town hall in a different location.

Yes, something is wrong. Just can't wait for my next upload?
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cobalt

So today I had two ai images declined, now I have to wonder if something is wrong with all the others I uploaded in the meantime??

That is the problem with 28 days inspection. If I cannot figure out the "quality" problem and have to wonder if all the rest are a bad batch as well??

I am spreading out my series quite widely, in the hope of catching a friendly or less overworked reviewer so that at least a few files have a chance...

On the upside my last photos were accepted. I am now running them through topaz, maybe that helps.

Or maybe I just got lucky. I simply don't know anymore.

TonyD

I know that Adobe will reject flower or food pictures because they have so many, unless it's shot in a way that is unique.

cobalt

#137
They are taking nearly all of my food pictures and many of my flowers and they are not studio shots and often taken with my iphone.

So there is that.

Actually planning to do more real life food because they take it and it sells quite consistently.

ETA:

They also take anything with isolated objects on white. So, more quirky food, more objects...but I will also find a niche with ai that Adobe takes and that will also sell. I am not giving up.

Also need to do more editorial.

cobalt

#138
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f8

Wow! My wife is an illustrator and usually gets 100% acceptance of her work on Adobe and every other site she submits to, and just like that her "quality" is not good enough for Adobe with 100% rejection. This is getting tres weird.

Jo Ann Snover

Quote from: f8 on June 15, 2023, 17:24
...This is getting tres weird.

Really, really topsy turvey. I seriously doubt that this image would have been accepted other than because it was tagged as AI - the cutout job is pathetically bad. Not even in the ballpark. It was accepted some time earlier today.


cobalt

#141
maybe I should put less effort into my isolations...😂

I am beginning to wonder if Adobe is testing an ai assisted review process.

That might explain many of the weird rejections.

There is a whole series of bad dog isolations.

https://stock.adobe.com/de/images/close-up-of-a-cute-puppy-dog-sitting-looking-forward-on-a-transparent-background-generative-ai/610396036?asset_id=610396036

ai reviews would also explain "similar" rejections for similar looking images that were taken in different countries or locations.

Jo Ann Snover

#142
Quote from: Lizzy Waters on June 13, 2023, 09:35
Now, the rejections on Adobe get ridiculous. I had two photos of Cartagena (townhall and Roman theatre) rejected because they are too similar to previously submitted photos in my portfolio. I have never been to Cartagena before, so these two are my first photos of Cartagena ever submitted. In my portfolio of 2500 images I have 8 pics of town halls of several cities. Does this rejection reason mean that the townhall of city A is too similar to the townhall of city B? And I am not allowed to submit photos of townhalls of different cities? What worries me, people get their account closed because of similarity. So, when I submit a further townhall from another city I will risk to get my account closed? I don't understand these rejection rules and how a "reviewer" (AI?) can think the townhall of city A is the same as of city B.

On the "too similar" rejection, that doesn't appear to apply to genAI uploads. I just counted 31 closeup pictures of one eye of a tiger's face - from one contributor and all consecutive (meaning I think they were all uploaded together).  Edited to add 53 near identical "exploding" hamburgers, likewise from just one contributor.

This drunk-on-the-greatness-of-genAI just results in a pollution of an otherwise great collection of content...

Her Ugliness

Quote from: Jo Ann Snover on June 15, 2023, 18:09
Quote from: f8 on June 15, 2023, 17:24
...This is getting tres weird.

Really, really topsy turvey. I seriously doubt that this image would have been accepted other than because it was tagged as AI - the cutout job is pathetically bad. Not even in the ballpark. It was accepted some time earlier today.



What the...?

Meanwhile I got 95% of a whole AI batch rejected earlier today, while usually 99% of my AI images get accepted. And since I am always using the same AI engine and the same post-procession tools, I know for sure that the "quality" of the submitted images is consistant - But the reviewing is not. It's all over the place.

cobalt

If they are taking all those, why are my ai images being declined? I never upload 30 similar files. 😕

cobalt

#145
If I look at the new gen ai files coming in, there isn't a lot of variety.

It is either Midjourney style photos or Midjourney style watercolors.

I am sure people are still uploading more creative things, but this is extremely repetetive.

Perhaps they want as many Midjourney files as possible to complete the training of firefly?

There was a lot more variety a few weeks ago.  This looks like they just have one artist team that does everything in a very similar style. In fact they could just hire a team to mass produce this for them.

But they have thousands of international contributors with lots of different ideas, why remove the creativity?

The idea of ai is that you can try so many different new things. But if you look at the current uploads it is just one, edited, extremely limited style collection.

Nobody would limit photos, video or illustrations to this extent? Why do it with ai?

You can always have various edited collections.

As a customer this would not be what I would want.

f8

Looking at that horrific dog photo or whatever that crap is I can now understand why I no longer suddenly produce the quality Adobe requires. If that is the bar they are setting going forward then it looks like I will never meet their "quality" expectations again because I will never produce crap like that or attempt to lower my standard to get my work accepted. This is appalling.




cobalt

just had 3  gen ai accepted. absolutely not midjourney style. gives me a little hope that not everything I do is wrong. not from a series.

Will see how the other files do. 28 day wait is very long to worry about problems.

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Adobe is  rejecting more contents than before. This will surely have negative impact on my work

Reimar

I'm going to watch this space to see if AS stops rejecting batches of photography for "Quality" that would have passed before and consistently pass at other sites.  Until then I'll pause uploads, as it is now a waste of time.