I have far more income from SS than from AS, with about the same number of files on both.

They're both terrible this month.  Adobe moreso.

Both have been normal for me.

Both have been normal for me.

I'm getting paid back, relative to what effort I put in. When I work harder I make more. There is no SS vs AS for me because the images are different numbers, different content and different subjects or styles. Some sell better or worse at each.

SS is same DL #s as the past, lower RPD. Adobe is steady RPD, less images, less sales.

As things look right now, early in the year, and if nothing changes, (new CEO at SS) Adobe will pass SS in the poll here by June. That's assuming everyone reports their earnings honestly. The change is inevitable. AS 33 - 66 - 99 subs, (bronze entry level until 1000 downloads) while SS pays 25 starting, 33 $500, 36 until you reach $10,000 then 38 cents after that.

Easy to see that AS subs, at entry level, pay back higher than SS 38� at the top level. $500 is pretty easy, then consider how long it takes people now, to reach $10,000 on SS? For 2 cents more? That's around 27,000 downloads to the top level, for anyone who cares to project their future at SS.

At AS my subs are mostly �0.99 these days with lowest �0.38 ($0.41) so always better then the $0.38 (�0.35) subs at SS. Sales volume is still lacking though and doesn't keep me motivated enough to continue.

SS is garbage these days. "Controlled earnings" are the two words that come up in my mind every time I look at my stats. They also seem to prefer a certain group of contributors which makes them almost discriminating but then they do as they please. Like many others I also think it is inevitable that AS will take over the throne in the near future.

In the end it doesn't matter anymore who's better, for us it's a no-win situation anyway 

1,35 rpd in adobe  vs 0,70 ss from beginning of year....ss sales much more but adobe is recovering, also much less files in adobe.

Overall is Adobe easier to work with than SS? Are Adobe employees more reasonable, responsive and easier to communicate with overall?

Also does anyone how many buyers each of the companies has? Does on have a larger number of buyers than the other?

Overall is Adobe easier to work with than SS? Are Adobe employees more reasonable, responsive and easier to communicate with overall?

Also does anyone how many buyers each of the companies has? Does on have a larger number of buyers than the other?

Adobe are much better to work with not least as you don't need to contact them often as their system is much more stable and they don't do so  many stupid things.

Quote from: Joshzhen on February 09, 2020, 18:45

Shutterstock support very bad, mostly they no longer want to serve their customers. Maybe that's why recent sales have dropped!

If you mean "contributors," I agree.

Quote from: EIPHOTO on February 28, 2020, 17:42

Overall is Adobe easier to work with than SS? Are Adobe employees more reasonable, responsive and easier to communicate with overall?

Also does anyone how many buyers each of the companies has? Does on have a larger number of buyers than the other?

I am not a big fan of AS support.
The only person we can really rely on is Mat Hayward (thanks Mat for being here!).

Have you ever tried the forum? It's monitored by Adobe staff, it's not like chat forums like SS or Alamy.

https://community.adobe.com/t5/stock/bd-p/stock?page=1&sort=latest_replies&filter=all

When I've written email to support, someone has always responded. You must have some tough questions?

Taking the value of the Adobe CC into consideration, Adobe beats SS for me for 2020 so far, but by next month I'm pretty sure SS will be ahead. While my Adobe sales are increasing (and I now have about the same # files on each - way more editorial on SS - more illustrations on Adobe) and my new images are doing about the same on both sites, SS is consistently earning me more. But both are increasing for the first time in about 2 years.

Generally my RPD on Adobe is better, but on SS a $20+ enhanced license for a new image and lots of on demands - something I haven't seen in quite a while changed that - even without the EL my RPD on SS would have been higher in February thanks to daily ELs for the entire second half of the month.

But even in a normal month where RPD on SS is lower, they generally beat Adobe in earnings, though it's been close a few times, when I've had a bad month on SS. It's more a case of SS tanking as some have said.

On both sites, this was my best month in a year, unusual for February and hoping it's a sign that things are improving there after a lackluster 2019, 2020 has been strong (though I remember the days when I would have considered last month's "strong" earnings to be an average month, when my portfolio was about 1/5th the size it is now).

I did very well at the old Fotolia but when turning Emerald it stopped and by the time Adobe took over its been downhill ever since. I'm afraid I have not got too much faith left in these two agencies.

C'mon people! take a decision! should we or should we not  flood Adobe curation with millions of content? Is this the 2020 "how to earn fast" trend?   

I say this with 3 x more assets on SS than AS since starting in Feb 2019, but if not for SS this wouldn't be worth it at all.   

Will say also that it would be good if my AS sales pick up. I feel going forward that AS (having taken their time with building their database) have a far better quality one than SS who had opened the floodgates and now trying to reign it in with all these ridiculous rejections - rejecting not only poor quality but good salability content.   

Believe it or not I make more on 123rf then Adobe.

I use to buy photos on Adobe but they removed the credit system, forcing a subscription plan so I started buying from DT.