Author Topic: SS EL Opt Out- Buyer Wants EL Directly (Read 4495 times)

angelawaye · « **on:** March 02, 2016, 08:00 »

Hi everyone. I have opted out of the SS EL license since they cut our royalties for them.

A buyer contacted me and wants the license to print 5000 Pieces of a postcard. I have no clue how this works and what to price it for.

Are there any license templates? I have no clue what to do ...

Any advice is appreciated. Thanks!

obj owl · « **Reply #1 on:** March 02, 2016, 09:05 »

Sell them a Rights Managed License for say 1c per card =$50 or multiple thereof and time limited say a year. That way if it's a hit they will be back again next year

http://dpanswers.com/forms/contract_use.html

angelawaye · « **Reply #2 on:** March 02, 2016, 09:19 »

If I sell rights managed I would have to delete it on SS. I didn't want to delete the image from ss...

eyewave · « **Reply #3 on:** March 02, 2016, 09:22 »

Quote from: angelawaye on March 02, 2016, 09:19

If I sell rights managed I would have to delete it on SS. I didn't want to delete the image from ss...

nonsense. there's no such a restriction.

Sean Locke Photography · « **Reply #4 on:** March 02, 2016, 10:54 »

What eyewave said. SS is non-exclusive. You can do whatever you like with your image.

obj owl · « **Reply #5 on:** March 02, 2016, 11:17 »

Quote from: angelawaye on March 02, 2016, 09:19

If I sell rights managed I would have to delete it on SS. I didn't want to delete the image from ss...

Only if the buyer wants exclusivity, in which case offer it for 2 years for $?00, but if that was the case it's very unlikely that they found the image on a RF only site.

angelawaye · « **Reply #6 on:** March 02, 2016, 11:32 »

Thank you for your input everyone. I have the image on alamy, should I send them to that link for an EL?

I have no idea what to ask for ... what does shutterstock make off of an EL? Should I just make it what they would earn? They want 5,000 prints ...

I'm not a good at pricing, I would rather be taking the photos than quoting. I always undercut myself too.

Pauws99 · « **Reply #7 on:** March 02, 2016, 11:43 »

Quote from: angelawaye on March 02, 2016, 11:32

Thank you for your input everyone. I have the image on alamy, should I send them to that link for an EL?

I have no idea what to ask for ... what does shutterstock make off of an EL? Should I just make it what they would earn? They want 5,000 prints ...

I'm not a good at pricing, I would rather be taking the photos than quoting. I always undercut myself too.

I assume its RF on Alamy ....if so that sounds a good option

obj owl · « **Reply #8 on:** March 02, 2016, 11:48 »

Quote from: angelawaye on March 02, 2016, 11:32

Thank you for your input everyone. I have the image on alamy, should I send them to that link for an EL?

I have no idea what to ask for ... what does shutterstock make off of an EL? Should I just make it what they would earn? They want 5,000 prints ...

I'm not a good at pricing, I would rather be taking the photos than quoting. I always undercut myself too.

Assuming the worst and they buy in bulk from Shutterstock they would pay roughly $60 per image. Negotiation is the art of business and can be fun, even if you undercut yourself it's the price of learning, but as you are opted out $28 should be your bottom line and would be a lot more than Shutterstock @ $60 - discount.

and you could offer them more at a discount, grab the opportunity.

Zero Talent · « **Reply #9 on:** March 02, 2016, 12:08 »

I would send them a Paypal invoice, charging less than a SS EL, let's say $90.
Why sharing your revenue with an agency?

Microstockphoto · « **Reply #10 on:** March 02, 2016, 13:04 »

5000 falls within a standard licence for 38 cents, right?

obj owl · « **Reply #11 on:** March 02, 2016, 13:15 »

Quote from: Microstockphoto on March 02, 2016, 13:04

5000 falls within a standard licence for 38 cents, right?

No, they are selling merchandise of which the image is the main feature, like a calendar, you need and EL just for one. If it was a book cover it would then not be the merchandise, but an illustration of the book, then they need to sell 500,000 before they purchase an EL.

Microstockphoto · « **Reply #12 on:** March 02, 2016, 13:18 »

angelawaye you have posted the client name and described the image they want in your op, i bet you 10 dollar that your client has received multiple offers by now from people lurking here. keep your cards close to your chest.

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