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« on: October 11, 2020, 16:54 »
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Hello all,

Ive found user on Shutterstock, Adobestock and Deposithphotos who has hundreds of video files stolen from my portfolio and propably others authors also. ---> https://www.shutterstock.com/g/tudosavalentina83/video

Im assuming that he/she selling those content over a year already. I dont know how much money he has earnt on those files but could be nice sum.
Of course already Ive written to supports and waiting for some action.

Any of you guys had similar problem? Is there any other possibility/instance I can use/write to?
Of course they should remove this user ASAP but what about the money Ive lost? Any chances to get back something?

I cant believe how is this possible to upload and sell hundreds of video clips stolen from other authors for a such long time   >:(
« Last Edit: October 11, 2020, 17:01 by Daniel Dash »


« Reply #1 on: October 11, 2020, 22:49 »
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i am sorry for your losses.

This can happen to anyone of us but i think it usually happens more when you accept to put your work in agencies that do subscriptions. Is this the case? If yes you see it is very difficult to know who is when buyers can download whatever they want. there is no actual control for what i understand.

This probably take you time but if this thief withdraw some sales maybe they could help you track it, no? I mean if this idiot get sales it must link to a payoneer/paypal/skrill account which usually means that he/she have to put real data bank account at some point.

i don't know about DT but my guess is SS will never reply to you. Probably adobe could help you a little more.

btw nice portfolio! best regards.






 

« Reply #2 on: October 12, 2020, 02:40 »
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Hello all,

Ive found user on Shutterstock, Adobestock and Deposithphotos who has hundreds of video files stolen from my portfolio and propably others authors also. ---> https://www.shutterstock.com/g/tudosavalentina83/video

Im assuming that he/she selling those content over a year already. I dont know how much money he has earnt on those files but could be nice sum.
Of course already Ive written to supports and waiting for some action.

Any of you guys had similar problem? Is there any other possibility/instance I can use/write to?
Of course they should remove this user ASAP but what about the money Ive lost? Any chances to get back something?

I cant believe how is this possible to upload and sell hundreds of video clips stolen from other authors for a such long time   >:(

This is happening constantly, the agencies are quite happy to reject similars submitted by genuine contributors but seem quite incapable of detecting thieves.

As for your money?  Forget it the agencies keep it for themselves

« Reply #3 on: October 12, 2020, 10:41 »
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They don't care Whoever owns the copyright, they don't care since they make the same money. They probably won't take any action, I have contacted them in the past for a thief reselling my work, they didn't took any action.
So it is these days.

Uncle Pete

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« Reply #4 on: October 12, 2020, 10:52 »
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Storyblocks
WeAre
7933 Clips
Ukraine

https://www.storyblocks.com/video/portfolio/WeAre

Unless the tudosavalentina83 account has no original videos at all. I found early uploads to be very different quality (poor in other words) from the stolen ones, which is the usual. Open an account, then fill it later with stolen images.


This is happening constantly, the agencies are quite happy to reject similars submitted by genuine contributors but seem quite incapable of detecting thieves.

As for your money?  Forget it the agencies keep it for themselves

Right, they can't check millions of images, but they can check against our own. The technology isn't available yet.

How would you have the agencies go through, check every stolen image, for downloaded or not, did it earn $.42 and then figure out how to send it to you? How many hours should they pay someone to return every .10 download from every thief? I think the answer is, that's impractical.

I'd like to see them watch new users more carefully for 90 days and keep the policy of holding all money for 90 days to high risk areas. If the crooks don't make money from stealing and cheating, they will move on to cheating and stealing some other way?

Another thing, for all agencies, would be filing criminal charges and making that public. That may not get results but it would certainly discourage some because of the risk. Again then they might go to some other area of criminal activity to make their illegal money.

« Reply #5 on: October 12, 2020, 11:24 »
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Restrict new users from Ukraine.

« Reply #6 on: October 12, 2020, 12:48 »
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Restrict new users from Ukraine.

Racist. 🙄

« Reply #7 on: October 13, 2020, 07:29 »
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Restrict new users from Ukraine.

"WeAre" from Ukraine is author whos clips is stolen also by this thief. So read a little bit carefully.

« Reply #8 on: November 05, 2020, 03:10 »
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I've made a topic on the SS forum about why portfolios with completely stolen content are not blocked immediately, but only just one file (footage) at a time.

If you are also affected, for example, by this "author" https://www.shutterstock.com/ru/g/Popsurcular/video

please write https://forums.submit.shutterstock.com/topic/101297-why-shutterstock-doesnt-remove-the-stolen-footage-portfolios-immediately/


I wrote a complaint a week ago, my file was removed and then it appeared again in that thief's portfolio...

« Reply #9 on: November 05, 2020, 04:46 »
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I already left one comment about technical possibilities to police portfolios and about policies of thiefs removal "on paper" and in reality. I would like just to remind: please ask at least 5 questions "Why?" Agencies which slow down or apply breakes to the deletion of portfolios with at least 1 found stolen file act as accomplices of thiefs. One of questions also can be: are ALL such portfolios uploaded by a real physical person-thief?

« Reply #10 on: November 05, 2020, 13:21 »
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Restrict new users from Ukraine.

Racist. 🙄

Only in Cathy's World is a country a race. Where did you go to grade school? Add Pakistan and India to the restricted list for new users before they can collect earnings.

« Reply #11 on: November 05, 2020, 15:41 »
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Restrict new users from Ukraine.

Racist. 🙄

Only in Cathy's World is a country a race. Where did you go to grade school? Add Pakistan and India to the restricted list for new users before they can collect earnings.

Nope. Looks like at least 3 other peoples world consider your remark racist. 😉😃 But if you think racist is the wrong word, (its not, it can be used where there is ethnic discrimination, too), there are many more I could call you that would apply equally as well.

« Last Edit: November 05, 2020, 18:11 by cathyslife »

« Reply #12 on: November 06, 2020, 09:35 »
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Restrict new users from Ukraine.

Racist. 🙄

Only in Cathy's World is a country a race. Where did you go to grade school? Add Pakistan and India to the restricted list for new users before they can collect earnings.

Nope. Looks like at least 3 other peoples world consider your remark racist. 😉😃 But if you think racist is the wrong word, (its not, it can be used where there is ethnic discrimination, too), there are many more I could call you that would apply equally as well.

Its racist to insult someone or a group of people using their race or skin color as a premise for the insult.

However merely stating that image thieves tend to be found in certain countries is not racist if it is demonstrably true.

« Reply #13 on: November 06, 2020, 09:59 »
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"Race" is a socio-political construct. 

"Ukranians are thieves." is a racist statement.

"The Ukranian government's stance on copyright issues is not acceptable." is not racist. 

The statement, "Ban Ukranian accounts." could be interpreted either way.


« Reply #14 on: November 06, 2020, 13:22 »
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You can split hairs all you want. This was posted by the same racist: (there, I put it in quotes so all you hair-splitters would be happy): Add Pakistan and India to the restricted list for new users before they can collect earnings.

« Reply #15 on: November 07, 2020, 04:38 »
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You can split hairs all you want. This was posted by the same racist: (there, I put it in quotes so all you hair-splitters would be happy): Add Pakistan and India to the restricted list for new users before they can collect earnings.

Nothing to do with splitting hairs, but throwing "racist" in to a conversation is a way of just shutting down discussion on valid points.

Looking at a lot of image thieves accounts they do often come from Eastern Europe as well as the Indian subcontinent.  It would be nonsensical to ignore facts.





« Reply #16 on: November 07, 2020, 10:06 »
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This has happened for me in the past with my exclusive Istock exclusive images (blue and red flames) being sold on Shutterstock. They were taken down. I am just waiting it happen again because this time I have decided I will take any agency were this happens to court and let the judge decide if the agency has taken all the necessary measures to avoid this kind of piracy. If any court condemns the agency for this they will learn the lesson the hard way, what they really deserve.

Hello all,

Ive found user on Shutterstock, Adobestock and Deposithphotos who has hundreds of video files stolen from my portfolio and propably others authors also. ---> https://www.shutterstock.com/g/tudosavalentina83/video

Im assuming that he/she selling those content over a year already. I dont know how much money he has earnt on those files but could be nice sum.
Of course already Ive written to supports and waiting for some action.

Any of you guys had similar problem? Is there any other possibility/instance I can use/write to?
Of course they should remove this user ASAP but what about the money Ive lost? Any chances to get back something?

I cant believe how is this possible to upload and sell hundreds of video clips stolen from other authors for a such long time   >:(


« Reply #17 on: November 08, 2020, 05:05 »
+1
Restrict new users from Ukraine.

According to this logic, ebay or etsy should ban sellers from the USA because only this year I reported about a dozen users from the US selling my work without a proper license.
It should be judged on a case-by-case basis rather than based on the country you are living in. Agencies could do a much better job on checking/reacting, but since they are making money either way they don't care that much.
« Last Edit: November 08, 2020, 05:07 by zsooofija »

Uncle Pete

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« Reply #18 on: November 08, 2020, 11:05 »
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Restrict new users from Ukraine.

According to this logic, ebay or etsy should ban sellers from the USA because only this year I reported about a dozen users from the US selling my work without a proper license.
It should be judged on a case-by-case basis rather than based on the country you are living in. Agencies could do a much better job on checking/reacting, but since they are making money either way they don't care that much.

Just a point, since people are getting all up in arms. She said RESTRICT not ban.

I don't know why anyone here would defend image thieves, whether they are from (country name here) or anywhere else. SS does restrict some new users from some known hotbeds of thieves, fake accounts and where they are known for portfolios of entirely stolen images. Last I saw, it was 90 days before they can collect the first payout.

Someone else has said, agencies should do better ID checks. Funny how many times we've seen people complaining that the agency won't accept their ID or how the people don't want their private information in the hands of the agency. Darned if you do, darned if you don't?  ;)

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If this is how they handle things, agencies should know precisely who is opening the account and who is responsible for the uploads. But some places, it's much easier to get a fake ID, or possibly some agencies just are trusting, until something goes wrong?

The word for blaming a whole country or population for what a minority of individuals do is stereotyping or a generalization, maybe a negative ethnic bias? Nothing to do with race.

« Reply #19 on: November 08, 2020, 16:04 »
+1
Restrict new users from Ukraine.

According to this logic, ebay or etsy should ban sellers from the USA because only this year I reported about a dozen users from the US selling my work without a proper license.
It should be judged on a case-by-case basis rather than based on the country you are living in. Agencies could do a much better job on checking/reacting, but since they are making money either way they don't care that much.

Just a point, since people are getting all up in arms. She said RESTRICT not ban.

I don't know why anyone here would defend image thieves, whether they are from (country name here) or anywhere else. SS does restrict some new users from some known hotbeds of thieves, fake accounts and where they are known for portfolios of entirely stolen images. Last I saw, it was 90 days before they can collect the first payout.

Someone else has said, agencies should do better ID checks. Funny how many times we've seen people complaining that the agency won't accept their ID or how the people don't want their private information in the hands of the agency. Darned if you do, darned if you don't?  ;)

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If this is how they handle things, agencies should know precisely who is opening the account and who is responsible for the uploads. But some places, it's much easier to get a fake ID, or possibly some agencies just are trusting, until something goes wrong?

The word for blaming a whole country or population for what a minority of individuals do is stereotyping or a generalization, maybe a negative ethnic bias? Nothing to do with race.

Racism is not just about race, it can be against a ethnic group also. (because scientifically race is not even thing - we all belong to the human race - but that is a whole other discussion).
I still think it should be agencies responsibility instead of these discriminatory practices (call them whatever you want).

« Reply #20 on: November 08, 2020, 17:44 »
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Restrict new users from Ukraine.

According to this logic, ebay or etsy should ban sellers from the USA because only this year I reported about a dozen users from the US selling my work without a proper license.
It should be judged on a case-by-case basis rather than based on the country you are living in. Agencies could do a much better job on checking/reacting, but since they are making money either way they don't care that much.

Just a point, since people are getting all up in arms. She said RESTRICT not ban.

I don't know why anyone here would defend image thieves, whether they are from (country name here) or anywhere else. SS does restrict some new users from some known hotbeds of thieves, fake accounts and where they are known for portfolios of entirely stolen images. Last I saw, it was 90 days before they can collect the first payout.

Someone else has said, agencies should do better ID checks. Funny how many times we've seen people complaining that the agency won't accept their ID or how the people don't want their private information in the hands of the agency. Darned if you do, darned if you don't?  ;)

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    You may not sign up for an account with identification documents belonging to another individual, share an account with another individual, and/or share content with another Shutterstock contributor without prior consent from Shutterstock.

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If this is how they handle things, agencies should know precisely who is opening the account and who is responsible for the uploads. But some places, it's much easier to get a fake ID, or possibly some agencies just are trusting, until something goes wrong?

The word for blaming a whole country or population for what a minority of individuals do is stereotyping or a generalization, maybe a negative ethnic bias? Nothing to do with race.

Racism is not just about race, it can be against a ethnic group also. (because scientifically race is not even thing - we all belong to the human race - but that is a whole other discussion).
I still think it should be agencies responsibility instead of these discriminatory practices (call them whatever you want).

I agree!

« Reply #21 on: November 08, 2020, 21:34 »
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Regardless of the race, ethnicity, religion, location, gender or sexual preference of the thief, Shutterstock should operate under a zero tolerance policy on any account that uploads even one clip/image that is not theirs legally to upload. Flat out. The moment Shutterstock becomes aware that a specific account is run by a thief, and chooses to ignore it, they become accessories to the crime and under any real legal scrutiny would be held at least partially responsible for any losses. Most likely, Shutterstock realizes that they get to keep 100% of sales from these accounts if left to sell and then conveniently removed before anything gets paid out. Making their behavior appear to be intentionally criminal.
« Last Edit: November 08, 2020, 21:36 by Daryl Ray »

Uncle Pete

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« Reply #22 on: November 10, 2020, 06:55 »
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Restrict new users from Ukraine.

According to this logic, ebay or etsy should ban sellers from the USA because only this year I reported about a dozen users from the US selling my work without a proper license.
It should be judged on a case-by-case basis rather than based on the country you are living in. Agencies could do a much better job on checking/reacting, but since they are making money either way they don't care that much.

Just a point, since people are getting all up in arms. She said RESTRICT not ban.

I don't know why anyone here would defend image thieves, whether they are from (country name here) or anywhere else. SS does restrict some new users from some known hotbeds of thieves, fake accounts and where they are known for portfolios of entirely stolen images. Last I saw, it was 90 days before they can collect the first payout.

Someone else has said, agencies should do better ID checks. Funny how many times we've seen people complaining that the agency won't accept their ID or how the people don't want their private information in the hands of the agency. Darned if you do, darned if you don't?  ;)

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    In order to make your Shutterstock account a business account, you must provide us with documentation as required by your country or state that indicates you are a principal owner of the business. 

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If this is how they handle things, agencies should know precisely who is opening the account and who is responsible for the uploads. But some places, it's much easier to get a fake ID, or possibly some agencies just are trusting, until something goes wrong?

The word for blaming a whole country or population for what a minority of individuals do is stereotyping or a generalization, maybe a negative ethnic bias? Nothing to do with race.

Racism is not just about race, it can be against a ethnic group also. (because scientifically race is not even thing - we all belong to the human race - but that is a whole other discussion).
I still think it should be agencies responsibility instead of these discriminatory practices (call them whatever you want).

LOL as one of the American Race now, I was making it clear that it's not race but the correct word is stereotyping, nothing more or less. And I think you read what I wrote which said: "If this is how they handle things, agencies should know precisely who is opening the account and who is responsible for the uploads." because the agencies have IDs and payment accounts. Nothing about discrimination, which is another good word for restricting whole countries.

So you and Cathy can keep insisting that a country is a race?

racist, racism  (rā′sĭz′əm)
1. The belief that race accounts for differences in human character or ability and that a particular race is superior to others.
2. Discrimination or prejudice based on race.


« Reply #23 on: November 10, 2020, 09:00 »
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Regardless of the race, ethnicity, religion, location, gender or sexual preference of the thief, Shutterstock should operate under a zero tolerance policy on any account that uploads even one clip/image that is not theirs legally to upload. Flat out. The moment Shutterstock becomes aware that a specific account is run by a thief, and chooses to ignore it, they become accessories to the crime and under any real legal scrutiny would be held at least partially responsible for any losses. Most likely, Shutterstock realizes that they get to keep 100% of sales from these accounts if left to sell and then conveniently removed before anything gets paid out. Making their behavior appear to be intentionally criminal.

Well stated, Daryl.

« Reply #24 on: November 10, 2020, 12:28 »
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   So you and Cathy can keep insisting that a country is a race?   

No, and you know darn well thats not what were saying. Bless your heart. LOL
« Last Edit: November 10, 2020, 12:32 by cathyslife »

Uncle Pete

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« Reply #25 on: November 10, 2020, 12:41 »
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   So you and Cathy can keep insisting that a country is a race?   

No, and you know darn well thats not what were saying. Bless your heart. LOL

I did and I'm done.

racist, racism  (rā′sĭz′əm)
1. The belief that race accounts for differences in human character or ability and that a particular race is superior to others.
2. Discrimination or prejudice based on race.


Regardless of the race, ethnicity, religion, location, gender or sexual preference of the thief, Shutterstock should operate under a zero tolerance policy on any account that uploads even one clip/image that is not theirs legally to upload. Flat out.

Just that would be ideal. Instead we play wack-a-mole and this isn't just SS, who seems to get all the blame for being the most attractive for thieves, just like everything a thief does, they go where there's the most money. Otherwise these people would be working sites that none of us would ever see. But then, they wouldn't make much, so it's not attractive. How does P5 do such a good job of preventing this?

We've been over this so many times. The agencies, hide behind a DMCA policy and don't seem to be concerned enough to aggressively chase off these crooks.

Even though we get different replies, there are accounts being removed, because of complaints, and not from the original artists. They do listen. They are just a wee bit hard of hearing.

My ban would be, everyone who's name doesn't start with a P, that's just fine with me?  8)

To be honest, all accounts, like Daryl says, one stolen image, toss the bums.
« Last Edit: November 10, 2020, 12:44 by Uncle Pete »

« Reply #26 on: November 10, 2020, 13:43 »
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Racism is the belief that groups of humans possess different behavioral traits corresponding to physical appearance and can be divided based on the superiority of one race over another. It may also mean prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against other people because they are of a different race or ethnicity. Modern variants of racism are often based in social perceptions of biological differences between peoples. These views can take the form of social actions, practices or beliefs, or political systems in which different races are ranked as inherently superior or inferior to each other, based on presumed shared inheritable traits, abilities, or qualities.

 References.
Dennis, R.M. (2004). "Racism". In Kuper, A.; Kuper, J. (eds.). The Social Science Encyclopedia, Volume 2 (3rd ed.). London; New York: Routledge. ISBN 978-1-134-35969-1. Racism [is] the idea that there is a direct correspondence between a group's values, behavior and attitudes, and its physical features [...] Racism is also a relatively new idea: its birth can be traced to the European colonization of much of the world, the rise and development of European capitalism, and the development of the European and US slave trade.
^ a b c Racism Oxford Dictionaries
^ a b c Ghani, Navid (2008). "Racism". In Schaefer, Richard T. (ed.). Encyclopedia of Race, Ethnicity, and Society. SAGE. pp. 11131115. ISBN 978-1-4129-2694-2.
^ Newman, D. M. (2012). Sociology : exploring the architecture of everyday life (9th ed.). Los Angeles: SAGE. p. 405. ISBN 978-1-4129-8729-5. racism: Belief that humans are subdivided into distinct groups that are different in their social behavior and innate capacities and that can be ranked as superior or inferior.

I can go on just as long as you can. Oh, but you said youre done, so am I. 🙂
« Last Edit: November 10, 2020, 13:49 by cathyslife »


« Reply #27 on: November 10, 2020, 13:51 »
+1
As far as the topic of the OP, stolen content has always been on the sites. Thieves should be banned, period. They wont, and the thievery will continue.

« Reply #28 on: November 11, 2020, 05:36 »
+2
Restrict new users from Ukraine.

According to this logic, ebay or etsy should ban sellers from the USA because only this year I reported about a dozen users from the US selling my work without a proper license.
It should be judged on a case-by-case basis rather than based on the country you are living in. Agencies could do a much better job on checking/reacting, but since they are making money either way they don't care that much.

Just a point, since people are getting all up in arms. She said RESTRICT not ban.

I don't know why anyone here would defend image thieves, whether they are from (country name here) or anywhere else. SS does restrict some new users from some known hotbeds of thieves, fake accounts and where they are known for portfolios of entirely stolen images. Last I saw, it was 90 days before they can collect the first payout.

Someone else has said, agencies should do better ID checks. Funny how many times we've seen people complaining that the agency won't accept their ID or how the people don't want their private information in the hands of the agency. Darned if you do, darned if you don't?  ;)

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    You may not sign up for an account with identification documents belonging to another individual, share an account with another individual, and/or share content with another Shutterstock contributor without prior consent from Shutterstock.

    The Make payments to name in your account must be your full legal name as it appears on your identification documents; this is the name to which royalty payments will be made. For business accounts this field will contain the business name.

    In order to make your Shutterstock account a business account, you must provide us with documentation as required by your country or state that indicates you are a principal owner of the business. 

    You may not open a second Shutterstock account without permission from Shutterstock.

    You may not share the same online payment processing service account (like Payoneer, Paypal or Skrill) with another Shutterstock contributor. 


If this is how they handle things, agencies should know precisely who is opening the account and who is responsible for the uploads. But some places, it's much easier to get a fake ID, or possibly some agencies just are trusting, until something goes wrong?

The word for blaming a whole country or population for what a minority of individuals do is stereotyping or a generalization, maybe a negative ethnic bias? Nothing to do with race.

Racism is not just about race, it can be against a ethnic group also. (because scientifically race is not even thing - we all belong to the human race - but that is a whole other discussion).
I still think it should be agencies responsibility instead of these discriminatory practices (call them whatever you want).

LOL as one of the American Race now, I was making it clear that it's not race but the correct word is stereotyping, nothing more or less. And I think you read what I wrote which said: "If this is how they handle things, agencies should know precisely who is opening the account and who is responsible for the uploads." because the agencies have IDs and payment accounts. Nothing about discrimination, which is another good word for restricting whole countries.

So you and Cathy can keep insisting that a country is a race?

racist, racism  (rā′sĭz′əm)
1. The belief that race accounts for differences in human character or ability and that a particular race is superior to others.
2. Discrimination or prejudice based on race.

No one said a country is a race. And sure, you can pick the definition that suits your arguments. And I can pick the one that suits mine, so there is no point in arguing. Really. Or you can read more about this if you are interested because it is not as simple as you present it.

racism
/ˈreɪsɪz(ə)m/

noun
prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism by an individual, community, or institution against a person or people on the basis of their membership of a particular racial or ethnic group, typically one that is a minority or marginalized.


What is important is that no one should be discriminated based on the country she/he lives in. I had a 3 month restriction when I started stock photography, and I did nothing wrong ever (except being unlucky to be born in my country).


« Reply #29 on: November 11, 2020, 08:10 »
+1
Restrict new users from Ukraine.

According to this logic, ebay or etsy should ban sellers from the USA because only this year I reported about a dozen users from the US selling my work without a proper license.
It should be judged on a case-by-case basis rather than based on the country you are living in. Agencies could do a much better job on checking/reacting, but since they are making money either way they don't care that much.

Just a point, since people are getting all up in arms. She said RESTRICT not ban.

I don't know why anyone here would defend image thieves, whether they are from (country name here) or anywhere else. SS does restrict some new users from some known hotbeds of thieves, fake accounts and where they are known for portfolios of entirely stolen images. Last I saw, it was 90 days before they can collect the first payout.

Someone else has said, agencies should do better ID checks. Funny how many times we've seen people complaining that the agency won't accept their ID or how the people don't want their private information in the hands of the agency. Darned if you do, darned if you don't?  ;)

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If this is how they handle things, agencies should know precisely who is opening the account and who is responsible for the uploads. But some places, it's much easier to get a fake ID, or possibly some agencies just are trusting, until something goes wrong?

The word for blaming a whole country or population for what a minority of individuals do is stereotyping or a generalization, maybe a negative ethnic bias? Nothing to do with race.

Racism is not just about race, it can be against a ethnic group also. (because scientifically race is not even thing - we all belong to the human race - but that is a whole other discussion).
I still think it should be agencies responsibility instead of these discriminatory practices (call them whatever you want).

LOL as one of the American Race now, I was making it clear that it's not race but the correct word is stereotyping, nothing more or less. And I think you read what I wrote which said: "If this is how they handle things, agencies should know precisely who is opening the account and who is responsible for the uploads." because the agencies have IDs and payment accounts. Nothing about discrimination, which is another good word for restricting whole countries.

So you and Cathy can keep insisting that a country is a race?

racist, racism  (rā′sĭz′əm)
1. The belief that race accounts for differences in human character or ability and that a particular race is superior to others.
2. Discrimination or prejudice based on race.

No one said a country is a race. And sure, you can pick the definition that suits your arguments. And I can pick the one that suits mine, so there is no point in arguing. Really. Or you can read more about this if you are interested because it is not as simple as you present it.

Restrict new users from Ukraine.

Racist. 🙄
Cathy did Ukraine is a country

racism
/ˈreɪsɪz(ə)m/

noun
prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism by an individual, community, or institution against a person or people on the basis of their membership of a particular racial or ethnic group, typically one that is a minority or marginalized.


What is important is that no one should be discriminated based on the country she/he lives in. I had a 3 month restriction when I started stock photography, and I did nothing wrong ever (except being unlucky to be born in my country).



Unfortunate born in a country where image stealing is common. How much did you lose by waiting 90 days? Everybody from everywhere should have to wait 90 days.


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racism
/ˈreɪsɪz(ə)m/

noun
prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism by an individual, community, or institution against a person or people on the basis of their membership of a particular racial or ethnic group, typically one that is a minority or marginalized.


Unfortunate born in a country where image stealing is common. How much did you lose by waiting 90 days? Everybody from everywhere should have to wait 90 days.

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A: OH! Oh! I'm sorry! This is abuse!

M: Oh! Oh I see!

A: Aha! No, you want the ShutterStock Forum

M: Oh...Sorry...

A: Not at all!

A: (under his breath) stupid git.

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