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« on: March 10, 2017, 13:12 »
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After 6 months of steadily declining sales, February was pretty decent and March appears pretty good so far too.
Anyone else experiencing this?


Noedelhap

  • www.colincramm.com

« Reply #1 on: March 10, 2017, 13:34 »
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No.

« Reply #2 on: March 10, 2017, 13:43 »
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No

« Reply #3 on: March 10, 2017, 13:44 »
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No, for me it is the opposite - declining for the past few months and off a cliff the past couple.  Last month was the worst in many years and this month so far is looking to be my worst probably since 2010 or 2011.

« Reply #4 on: March 10, 2017, 14:13 »
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No way

Photodune Reject

« Reply #5 on: March 10, 2017, 14:44 »
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Yes, so far I have made positive gains from the previous year's months- going on six years of positive gains. Not has big as the initial three years but still not too bad. I should reach $50K (USD) this year.   :)



« Reply #6 on: March 10, 2017, 15:08 »
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Nope.  1/3 to a 1/2 of last year on SS.

angelawaye

  • Eat, Sleep, Keyword. Repeat

« Reply #7 on: March 10, 2017, 18:07 »
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No for me ...

« Reply #8 on: March 10, 2017, 22:22 »
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Instead of being down by my usual 20% /year, February was only down 10% on last year.  So should I call it a good month?  Not sure.  Coulda been worse....

alno

« Reply #9 on: March 11, 2017, 04:25 »
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For all steady "NO" people. Have you considered looking for another source of income or money earning hobby (in this case it's still understandable though)? You either doing something very wrong or just like to complain :)

« Reply #10 on: March 11, 2017, 06:01 »
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For all steady "NO" people. Have you considered looking for another source of income or money earning hobby (in this case it's still understandable though)? You either doing something very wrong or just like to complain :)
I very much doubt you will ever earn as much from microstock as Sean does.  Almost everyone doing this hits a wall at some point and experiences lower earnings or finds it very hard to increase their earnings.  If you think you are an exception, then you are probably deluding yourself.

« Reply #11 on: March 11, 2017, 06:22 »
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Yes

alno

« Reply #12 on: March 11, 2017, 06:22 »
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For all steady "NO" people. Have you considered looking for another source of income or money earning hobby (in this case it's still understandable though)? You either doing something very wrong or just like to complain :)
I very much doubt you will ever earn as much from microstock as Sean does.  Almost everyone doing this hits a wall at some point and experiences lower earnings or finds it very hard to increase their earnings.  If you think you are an exception, then you are probably deluding yourself.

I don't want to insult anyone or make any sort of earning competition, but what's the point of continuing any business which declines more and more every month and every year? There surely wouldn't be any kind of miracle and there wouldn't be earnings like in 2006 or 2009. Why not simply concentrate all efforts on something new while getting some residual income from microstock?

ShadySue

« Reply #13 on: March 11, 2017, 07:10 »
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For all steady "NO" people. Have you considered looking for another source of income or money earning hobby (in this case it's still understandable though)? You either doing something very wrong or just like to complain :)
I very much doubt you will ever earn as much from microstock as Sean does.  Almost everyone doing this hits a wall at some point and experiences lower earnings or finds it very hard to increase their earnings.  If you think you are an exception, then you are probably deluding yourself.

I don't want to insult anyone or make any sort of earning competition, but what's the point of continuing any business which declines more and more every month and every year? There surely wouldn't be any kind of miracle and there wouldn't be earnings like in 2006 or 2009. Why not simply concentrate all efforts on something new while getting some residual income from microstock?

Of course, but that would not discount people from saying how their sales are going. Besides, "sales are falling" is a fact (for those for whom it is true), so why shouldn't people report it, otherwise newbies would get a false impression.
Though obviously "sales are falling" just like "sales are rising" is pretty useless info in isolation.
« Last Edit: March 11, 2017, 10:13 by ShadySue »

« Reply #14 on: March 11, 2017, 13:12 »
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For all steady "NO" people. Have you considered looking for another source of income or money earning hobby (in this case it's still understandable though)? You either doing something very wrong or just like to complain :)
I very much doubt you will ever earn as much from microstock as Sean does.  Almost everyone doing this hits a wall at some point and experiences lower earnings or finds it very hard to increase their earnings.  If you think you are an exception, then you are probably deluding yourself.

Well stated, except I would imagine very few of us will ever earn as much at ANYTHING as Sean earns at stock.  He is one of the top sellers and manages to do this himself and not as a factory.  If he is willing to share info on his sales trends, that is of interest to some of us in tracking overall sales trends in the industry. 

Irina, may I suggest you take your own advice and look for other types of threads to read if you are so bothered by the ones where people report their sales trends?
« Last Edit: March 11, 2017, 13:18 by PixelBytes »

« Reply #15 on: March 11, 2017, 13:43 »
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Well if I was doing this full time (which I am not) I'd not be pumping other people full of optimism, because why cause even more dilution in the stock world ???  I'd rather have them a little dreary and thinking it is a waste of time to create any new images.............. so no, sales of the few images I have are not tremendous for me.   That being said, I did purchase a gently used 5D mk ii used from an original owner for a great price.  Just can't stop buying stuff, so probably good that I'm not a business owner any longer and work a full time job instead.    :)

« Reply #16 on: March 11, 2017, 15:35 »
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fiftyfootelvis, I agree with you, last month was jaw-droppingly epic for me, but then again I've only been in stock for about 1.5 years and making money wasn't, isn't and will never be the driver behind me doing stock. My performance so far exceeded my wildest expectations but I couldn't possibly care less if my next month's paycheck will be equal to 'nada'.

Very best,

Filipe


« Reply #17 on: March 11, 2017, 17:28 »
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No!

« Reply #18 on: March 11, 2017, 17:52 »
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For all steady "NO" people. Have you considered looking for another source of income or money earning hobby (in this case it's still understandable though)? You either doing something very wrong or just like to complain :)

And you like to complain about people who complain

Same difference except you come over as pompous

« Reply #19 on: March 11, 2017, 19:39 »
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For all steady "NO" people. Have you considered looking for another source of income or money earning hobby (in this case it's still understandable though)?

Yes, as a matter of fact I will soon start buying photos. It's obvious that the whole thing has become a buyers' market, so I reckon it should be more lucrative to buy photos and try to monetize the work of other photographers, rather than to spend money on producing my own photos. I will become a buyer. I never thought it would come to this, but the trend is very clear. The value of images will continue to decrease, no matter how good you are and what you shoot. It's maths and basic rules of economy. Unless, you're like Andreas Gursky. But then you most likely don't read MSG.
« Last Edit: March 12, 2017, 00:23 by LDV81 »

« Reply #20 on: March 12, 2017, 04:20 »
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For all steady "NO" people. Have you considered looking for another source of income or money earning hobby (in this case it's still understandable though)?

Yes, as a matter of fact I will soon start buying photos. It's obvious that the whole thing has become a buyers' market, so I reckon it should be more lucrative to buy photos and try to monetize the work of other photographers, rather than to spend money on producing my own photos. I will become a buyer. I never thought it would come to this, but the trend is very clear. The value of images will continue to decrease, no matter how good you are and what you shoot. It's maths and basic rules of economy. Unless, you're like Andreas Gursky. But then you most likely don't read MSG.
I wouldn't recommend it. If the value of images is decreasing you will find yourself out of pocket.

« Reply #21 on: March 12, 2017, 04:33 »
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For all steady "NO" people. Have you considered looking for another source of income or money earning hobby (in this case it's still understandable though)? You either doing something very wrong or just like to complain :)
I very much doubt you will ever earn as much from microstock as Sean does.  Almost everyone doing this hits a wall at some point and experiences lower earnings or finds it very hard to increase their earnings.  If you think you are an exception, then you are probably deluding yourself.

I don't want to insult anyone or make any sort of earning competition, but what's the point of continuing any business which declines more and more every month and every year? There surely wouldn't be any kind of miracle and there wouldn't be earnings like in 2006 or 2009. Why not simply concentrate all efforts on something new while getting some residual income from microstock?

Easy answer. For some of the people that have answered here make well over 6 figures yearly income, so I tdon't think they are or will be carying about residual income. That might apply to others though ;-)

« Reply #22 on: March 12, 2017, 04:49 »
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For all steady "NO" people. Have you considered looking for another source of income or money earning hobby (in this case it's still understandable though)?

Yes, as a matter of fact I will soon start buying photos. It's obvious that the whole thing has become a buyers' market, so I reckon it should be more lucrative to buy photos and try to monetize the work of other photographers, rather than to spend money on producing my own photos. I will become a buyer. I never thought it would come to this, but the trend is very clear. The value of images will continue to decrease, no matter how good you are and what you shoot. It's maths and basic rules of economy. Unless, you're like Andreas Gursky. But then you most likely don't read MSG.
Microstock prices have gone up a lot over the years I have been doing this.  People seem to forget that istock started as a free images site.  I'm making a lot more per sale with SS than when I first started.  There's a lot more competition and that's led to lower sales for a lot of us but it isn't because prices have gone down.  I still think microstock is worth it but only if you don't supply what's already been done to death.

« Reply #23 on: March 12, 2017, 05:50 »
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Microstock prices have gone up a lot over the years I have been doing this.  People seem to forget that istock started as a free images site.  I'm making a lot more per sale with SS than when I first started.  There's a lot more competition and that's led to lower sales for a lot of us but it isn't because prices have gone down.  I still think microstock is worth it but only if you don't supply what's already been done to death.

The prices might have gone up, but from the point of view of contributors, it doesn't matter much because the ocean of images has grown exponentially. Nowadays, it is much more difficult to earn $1000 with a new image than it was in 2012 or 2011. The expected revenue from a new image has decreased dramatically, therefore the value of imagery is lower than in the past. And the trend is clear. Oversaturation, much worse than in the oil market.

I think I'll buy a few hundred images and use them in content types that might be more lucrative and sustainable.

« Reply #24 on: March 12, 2017, 06:47 »
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Microstock prices have gone up a lot over the years I have been doing this.  People seem to forget that istock started as a free images site.  I'm making a lot more per sale with SS than when I first started.  There's a lot more competition and that's led to lower sales for a lot of us but it isn't because prices have gone down.  I still think microstock is worth it but only if you don't supply what's already been done to death.

The prices might have gone up, but from the point of view of contributors, it doesn't matter much because the ocean of images has grown exponentially. Nowadays, it is much more difficult to earn $1000 with a new image than it was in 2012 or 2011. The expected revenue from a new image has decreased dramatically, therefore the value of imagery is lower than in the past. And the trend is clear. Oversaturation, much worse than in the oil market.

I think I'll buy a few hundred images and use them in content types that might be more lucrative and sustainable.
Oversaturation is not only in stock imagery, in services field too. And recently started to see a heavy pressure from all sort of middlemen. Growing amount of false service calls published by them, war for traffic, and intentionally disrespectful communication with service providers in "very polite tone". Their purpose is only to take money from photographers in exchange for customer contacts, which are false in 99%. They demand from a photographer to pay to respond for a call like "i want to know your price for a wedding". I have regularly - about once per week calls from "startups" which propose to "manage your clients, accept orders for you and that they are into photography and want to take 25-30%". Another trend: official publications for service calls moved to category "interim". Imagine: they publish a "job" description as following: high photography education, bring own camera, backgrounds, and payment 10 eur.hour, service time 4 hours. Remember, you have to pay your expenses from that and a tax! It is less than payment for a cleaner which will not have any expenses except probably transport.

« Reply #25 on: March 12, 2017, 06:56 »
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Video only here but signs of things improving after traditionally slow Jan / Feb / Mar. No freak outs this year though, given that this time last year everything just crashed suddenly and I thought everything was falling apart. Thankfully everything recovered nicely and the year ended up good. So far 2017 has exceed last year so fingers crossed all continues well.

However I'm under no illusions that this is a safe and steady industry to be a part of with wild swings up and down and agencies making major decisions with affect our livelihoods at a whim. It's only getting harder!

This is my full time job with no other sources of income.

« Reply #26 on: March 12, 2017, 07:36 »
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Huh


« Reply #27 on: March 12, 2017, 08:02 »
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However I'm under no illusions that this is a safe and steady industry to be a part of with wild swings up and down and agencies making major decisions with affect our livelihoods at a whim. It's only getting harder!

This is my full time job with no other sources of income.

Definitely not safe and steady, but fun and full of freedom.  :D You just have to make sure that the worst months are at a comfortable level and the best months are a nice bonus.

It's so easy to get used to big numbers when they occur, but I find it better to think of them as bonus months and aim to keep the lowest level high enough.

« Reply #28 on: March 12, 2017, 08:50 »
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After 6 months of steadily declining sales, February was pretty decent and March appears pretty good so far too.
Anyone else experiencing this?

FAKE NEWS!

« Reply #29 on: March 12, 2017, 09:24 »
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After 6 months of steadily declining sales, February was pretty decent and March appears pretty good so far too.
Anyone else experiencing this?

FAKE NEWS!
You are FAKE NEWS (with the golden accent)  8)

alno

« Reply #30 on: March 12, 2017, 11:17 »
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Video only here but signs of things improving after traditionally slow Jan / Feb / Mar. No freak outs this year though, given that this time last year everything just crashed suddenly and I thought everything was falling apart. Thankfully everything recovered nicely and the year ended up good. So far 2017 has exceed last year so fingers crossed all continues well.

However I'm under no illusions that this is a safe and steady industry to be a part of with wild swings up and down and agencies making major decisions with affect our livelihoods at a whim. It's only getting harder!

This is my full time job with no other sources of income.

You have really great content. It's only getting harder but you are among the least persons to worry about :)

« Reply #31 on: March 13, 2017, 06:53 »
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No

« Reply #32 on: March 15, 2017, 03:22 »
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  Yes.

« Reply #33 on: June 18, 2019, 14:17 »
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After 6 months of steadily declining sales, February was pretty decent and March appears pretty good so far too.
Anyone else experiencing this?

May was pretty good for me. Anyone else?

« Reply #34 on: June 18, 2019, 14:46 »
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You are resurrecting really old threads. Sales threads happen every month. Why wouldnt you post in last months May thread, instead of something from 2017?

ShadySue

« Reply #35 on: June 18, 2019, 15:38 »
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You are resurrecting really old threads. Sales threads happen every month. Why wouldnt you post in last months May thread, instead of something from 2017?

It's something weird which often happens when newbies arrive on the forum. It was explained once, but I can't remember the details.

« Reply #36 on: June 18, 2019, 16:59 »
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You are resurrecting really old threads. Sales threads happen every month. Why wouldnt you post in last months May thread, instead of something from 2017?

It's something weird which often happens when newbies arrive on the forum. It was explained once, but I can't remember the details.


Yes, I have seen the explanation, too, but dont remember. But still. I suppose we all missed the dates and posted on old threads when we were noobs too.  :-\


« Reply #37 on: June 18, 2019, 17:02 »
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You are resurrecting really old threads. Sales threads happen every month. Why wouldnt you post in last months May thread, instead of something from 2017?

It's something weird which often happens when newbies arrive on the forum. It was explained once, but I can't remember the details.

They don't get full rights in the forum until they've made something like 10 comments. For example if they want their links to be clickable etc.

« Reply #38 on: June 18, 2019, 23:25 »
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You are resurrecting really old threads. Sales threads happen every month. Why wouldnt you post in last months May thread, instead of something from 2017?

It's something weird which often happens when newbies arrive on the forum. It was explained once, but I can't remember the details.

They don't get full rights in the forum until they've made something like 10 comments. For example if they want their links to be clickable etc.

BINGO!!! There's the answer.

« Reply #39 on: June 19, 2019, 01:27 »
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I thought it was the "related topics" at the bottom after the thread - If you just click on those without looking at the dates you could easily end up reading an old old thread and then commenting on it.

« Reply #40 on: June 19, 2019, 01:32 »
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I thought it was the "related topics" at the bottom after the thread - If you just click on those without looking at the dates you could easily end up reading an old old thread and then commenting on it.

Yup! Especially when last posts are from active members, it is easy to confuse and consider that this was a live thread.


 

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