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« on: December 10, 2024, 06:08 »
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Are you considering jumping on the AI bandwagon because your sales are being slowly eroded by AI prompters from all over the world, and you feel as if you're missing out?

If you are, is there anything that's been holding you back from submitting AI content up until now?

Such as, a lack of experience in prompting, concerns about possible legal complications down the road, or because of the way it generates content that's based upon others work, and it doesn't feel right.


« Reply #1 on: December 10, 2024, 06:45 »
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No.

I'm full-time, and my earnings are at their lowest point (inflation is skyrocketing).

But if I change my photography business in 2025, I think I'll have to return to commissioned work.

I've tried selling prints for the past 3 years, but the results are poor. Too much competition and too much marketing is needed. I've only made a few thousand dollars a year. Too little money for all the time I've spent on POD sites, social media, and my website.

But I really don't like AI.

Too fake, too many similar images, too much competition, and low-quality details. And then you don't own the copyright to the images (obviously because they were copied/stolen from other authors, AI without previous data wouldn't exist).

So for me, it's a big NO

« Reply #2 on: December 10, 2024, 07:58 »
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Creating AI content often involves using elements derived from others' work, raising concerns about originality and ethics. Moreover, the market is already oversaturated with AI-generated images. For my style of photography, there will always be a demand for authentic, real-world photos, as AI predominantly generates fantasy or unrealistic visuals.

NO to AI from my side.


« Reply #3 on: December 10, 2024, 11:53 »
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No :)

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« Reply #4 on: December 10, 2024, 12:15 »
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Maybe. Yes I know that's almost not and answer, but it's the truth.

What puts me off is, only Adobe, and the millions of new images. What chance would me work have. I can do other real photos and illustrations. Part of that is, Does AI really sell, or is it like making best sellers and looking at what sells best and making hat, when there's already too much.

Why should I work for one agency, when SS, IS, Alamy, don't want it, and DT is a black hole. The potential is not very hopeful.



So maybe on a limited basis, when I'm not doing something else? AI is becoming Sliced Tomatoes.

« Reply #5 on: December 10, 2024, 15:41 »
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I will still upload ai, also because I have thousands of files to process.

But next year the main focus will be video and also normal photos. Probably at least 50% ai for adobe, but I really need content for the other agencies and I look forward to using my camera again.

« Reply #6 on: December 10, 2024, 19:15 »
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absolutely yes!

thanks to AI it is possible to create content that would otherwise be impossible.

making AI content that sells is harder in my opinion than making real content.

I have in my portfolio both AI content generated and improved on the fly,but don't sell much,and the AI ​​content that I sell the most,the content where I have wasted hours if not days of work for a single piece.

at the end of October I created a particular AI content that I'm selling a lot,but to create that content it took a lot of work and a lot of patience.

Once the content has been completed,I leave it full screen on my laptop and look at it from time to time,and despite all the attention and patience,in the end I always notice some detail that could have been improved.

Real content is easier,because you are already starting to create something that is already real,but of course it's a general discussion depending on what the real or AI content is,but the point is that,at least for me,making AI content that sells is harder than making real content that sells.

« Last Edit: December 10, 2024, 19:51 by Injustice for all »

zeljkok

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« Reply #7 on: December 11, 2024, 01:30 »
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Pink Rabbits eating green carrots and deer with 5 legs.   No, thank you.   I prefer to set tripod and wait for golden hour instead

« Reply #8 on: December 11, 2024, 03:09 »
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No.

Mainly because creating AI content doesn't bring me joy. And if something doesn't bring me joy, I would only do it for the money. And if I'm doing something only for the money, I could invest the same amount of time into a 9-5 job and earn much more with it.  :)

Also I don't think investing time into AI is a good long-term investment. The content will probably sell for 1-2 years and then be gone. With my real content I'm still earning on over 10 year old pieces.

« Reply #9 on: December 19, 2024, 23:51 »
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No.
For so many reasons, no.

« Reply #10 on: December 20, 2024, 09:17 »
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Absolutely NO .... personally my earnings are higher than 2023 ... i make only videos ... motion graphic videos ... and i dont like AI, the images and  videos are too artificial and similar to one another ... i have my own style and i will die with it not with the AI one...

« Reply #11 on: December 20, 2024, 09:36 »
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Of course yes, ! Use htpps://zegy.app for ai metadata generation for images & videos! Lifetime Deal !
This is some very strange link.

« Reply #12 on: December 20, 2024, 09:47 »
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I reported that, let Tyler decide if he wants the ai spammers here

« Reply #13 on: December 20, 2024, 10:18 »
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Absolutely NO .... personally my earnings are higher than 2023 ... i make only videos ... motion graphic videos ... and i dont like AI, the images and  videos are too artificial and similar to one another ... i have my own style and i will die with it not with the AI one...
+1000!

« Reply #14 on: December 20, 2024, 13:11 »
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"for ai metadata generation for images & videos! Lifetime Deal !" this clearly sounds like an advertisement!  :D

I wouldn't use AI to index content,use your head instead!

Indexing content is very important,it is not a process to be skipped as quickly as possible,indexing is what ensures that your content is found,I prefer to do research on the topic I am dealing with instead.

I use AI to improve my work,but I prefer not to allow AI to control my work,I mostly create hybrids,not content completely generated by AI but only partially,then clearly I can also create completely AI content,why not,but even in this case,I will certainly have used generative fills or expansions.

I prefer to work like this,because I believe that only the contents in which I have put my own effort can be highlighted,while contents generated only by prompts generally end up in the fray,although a very elaborate prompt may be different.

Firefly so far seems to me to be the best at interpreting prompts and transforming into images,even with very simple prompts you get the desired result,unlike MJ for example.

I'm not here to discuss the results,but for example I noticed that the skin of Caucasian people in MJ tends more towards cyan,generally speaking,it seems to me that the color tones of Firefly are better,warmer and better balanced,apart from the fact that Firefly is much easier and faster to set up,much more practical and faster.

« Reply #15 on: December 20, 2024, 15:41 »
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I wouldn't use AI to index content,use your head instead!

Indexing content is very important,it is not a process to be skipped as quickly as possible,indexing is what ensures that your content is found,I prefer to do research on the topic I am dealing with instead.

I use AI to improve my work,but I prefer not to allow AI to control my work,I mostly create hybrids,not content completely generated by AI but only partially,then clearly I can also create completely AI content,why not,but even in this case,I will certainly have used generative fills or expansions.

To be honest, I don't agree not using AI for indexing and keyword generation.
If you use a good LLM with visual interpretation capabilities, you'll get extremely accurate results in approximately 99% of cases.
Even abstract concepts are often interpreted correctly.

It's not about AI dictating your work, but rather about leveraging AI as a tool to accelerate your workflow, guided by your expertise.

zeljkok

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« Reply #16 on: December 20, 2024, 22:04 »
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To be honest, I don't agree not using AI for indexing and keyword generation.
If you use a good LLM with visual interpretation capabilities, you'll get extremely accurate results in approximately 99% of cases.
Even abstract concepts are often interpreted correctly.

It's not about AI dictating your work, but rather about leveraging AI as a tool to accelerate your workflow, guided by your expertise.

This is interesting subject.  I am strongly opposed to AI in general, but this is one instance where I can see it being potentially helpful.  Wouldn't trust it blindly though


« Reply #17 on: December 21, 2024, 04:07 »
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Mediocre contributors will submit to AI, being the tools of AI machinery, but it will be for short-lived success.

« Reply #18 on: December 21, 2024, 05:44 »
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I wouldn't use AI to index content,use your head instead!

Indexing content is very important,it is not a process to be skipped as quickly as possible,indexing is what ensures that your content is found,I prefer to do research on the topic I am dealing with instead.

I use AI to improve my work,but I prefer not to allow AI to control my work,I mostly create hybrids,not content completely generated by AI but only partially,then clearly I can also create completely AI content,why not,but even in this case,I will certainly have used generative fills or expansions.

To be honest, I don't agree not using AI for indexing and keyword generation.
If you use a good LLM with visual interpretation capabilities, you'll get extremely accurate results in approximately 99% of cases.
Even abstract concepts are often interpreted correctly.

It's not about AI dictating your work, but rather about leveraging AI as a tool to accelerate your workflow, guided by your expertise.

I never said "AI dictating my work",but I said "I don't allow an AI control my work".

Believe me when I tell you that an AI will never be able to index contents like a real person,it simply can't,unless the person indexing does so superficially.

but of course,you have the advantage of speed,you're right about that.

but then if you also have to see if the AI ​​indexing was done correctly,and correct any errors or improve the result obtained,at this point you are better off indexing yourself,In my opinion.

zeljkok

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« Reply #19 on: December 21, 2024, 15:41 »
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Process I use to keyword my images:

1)  Write in text editor comma separated list I can think of.  Do not look anywhere else - only the image, and what it conveys
2)  Cross-check against Adobe/Shutterstock suggestions.   Couple of words I didn't think of come out of this
3)  If I still feel I am missing something, I will search on Alamy for similar content
4)  Once satisfied I have captured everything essential, ensure most significant keywords are top 10 in the list (This is for Adobe mostly, but also helps with Alamy super tags later)
5)  Copy and paste.  Same for all agencies (including IS, don't worry about managed keyword nonsense)

AI suggestions could plug in somewhere around step 3.  But again, just blindly let AI keyword your image would be recipe for disaster IMHO

« Reply #20 on: December 21, 2024, 16:18 »
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Ok, let's switch to realtalk.

Let's test your skills vs. AI.

Write a title / description with 40 keywords of the following image and compare the results with AI (I will add these after user comment).




zeljkok

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« Reply #21 on: December 21, 2024, 17:25 »
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This is great test.   Without thinking too much and/or looking elsewhere, here's mine:

"Isolated Pair of Black and White Human Hands forming Heart Love Symbol. Say no to Racism and Discrimination Motivational Peace and Unity Reconciliation Symbol Message, Rose Coloured Background"


Hand,Hands,Human,Humanity,Love,Peace,Racism,Discrimination,Symbol,Symbolic,Black,White,African American,Caucasian,Rose,Wall,Background,Colour,Coloured,Isolated,Center,Centered,Arm,Arms,Reconciliation,Indigenous,Tolerance,Unity,Together,United,Stand,Skin,Fingers,Palm,Two,Pair,Diversity,Humanity,Inspiration,Message,Motivation,Motivational
« Last Edit: December 21, 2024, 17:36 by zeljkok »

« Reply #22 on: December 22, 2024, 03:20 »
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Write a title / description with 40 keywords of the following image and compare the results with AI (I will add these after user comment).

hands, heart, unity, diversity, love, inclusion, pink, background, connection, friendship, equality, gesture, togetherness, compassion, solidarity, peace, acceptance, care, harmony, symbol, bond, humanity, kindness, warmth, affection, respect, support, tolerance, strength, positivity, hope, beauty, balance, grace, collaboration, relationship, empowerment, partnership, mutual, closeness, teamwork, alliance, understanding, unity-in-diversity, cultural, coexistence, bond, admiration, gentleness

 ;D ;D ;D

« Reply #23 on: December 22, 2024, 05:08 »
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Ok, great, thank you!

So here are the results from pixify.io

Title:
Two Hands Forming a Heart Shape Symbolizing Love and Unity

Description:
Two hands of different skin tones creating a heart shape against a pink background, symbolizing love, unity, and diversity. Perfect for concepts of inclusivity, compassion, and mutual respect.

Keywords:
hands, heart, heart shape, unity, love, diversity, pink background, friends, friendship, solidarity, connection, equality, together, relationship, inclusion, support, compassion, multicultural, interracial, gesture, acceptance, affection, symbolism, care, collaboration, empathy, kindness, inspiration, two hands, partnership, respect, tolerance, teamwork, bonding, alliance, positivity, affirmation, shared moments, commitment, peace

« Reply #24 on: December 22, 2024, 07:43 »
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Process I use to keyword my images:

1)  Write in text editor comma separated list I can think of.  Do not look anywhere else - only the image, and what it conveys
2)  Cross-check against Adobe/Shutterstock suggestions.   Couple of words I didn't think of come out of this
3)  If I still feel I am missing something, I will search on Alamy for similar content
4)  Once satisfied I have captured everything essential, ensure most significant keywords are top 10 in the list (This is for Adobe mostly, but also helps with Alamy super tags later)
5)  Copy and paste.  Same for all agencies (including IS, don't worry about managed keyword nonsense)

AI suggestions could plug in somewhere around step 3.  But again, just blindly let AI keyword your image would be recipe for disaster IMHO

It seems like a good plan,well thought out.

as far as I'm concerned I invest even more time in indexing,but you have to consider that I also have more time,since I only work with Adobe,even if I still have other active ports.

is not possible to have 2 heavens in indexing,or in anything in life,or do things quickly or do them well.

certainly the right one would be in the middle,but often there are no shortcuts.

nice idea to test skills against AI!  :)

But excuse me I'm not taking part,you don't want me to flaunt everything I've learned in 7 years like it was nothing!  :D

just remember that the keywords are not shown,only the descriptions,no one will ever be able to copy the keywords to you by browsing the Adobe library.



 

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