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« on: October 03, 2022, 01:08 »
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Just found out that Wirestock also partnered up with Freepik, Canva and 123RF, all under the Extra Channels umbrella.

This means that all of your content which was selected for Extra Channels is now available on Freepik (flat fee/unlimited downloads shared revenue, or whatever you call that program) Selected content will be provided to 123RF (PLUS program I assume) and Canva.

The previously also had the Korean agency Miricanvas under extra channels, also a shared revenue plan.

It shows in our sales dashboard: 3 cents per download at 123RF and 4 cents for what I assume to be Freepik sales.

Can't say I'm happy with this "additional opportunities". I avoided any unlimited/flat fee and shared revenue plan so far, but Wirestock decided to throw my stuff in.
They'd better made those agencies available as an extra selectable option, but I guess they don't want to do that because very few of us would opt-in.

So beware, if you're still using Wirestock and don't want your content on those agencies: don't select extra channels!
It's basically giving Wirestock the permission to do whatever they want with your content.





« Reply #1 on: October 03, 2022, 02:26 »
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This means that all of your content which was selected for Extra Channels is now available on Freepik

No, it doesn't. Selected content only, same as other extra channels.

4 cents for what I assume to be Freepik sales. 

No, that's Miricanvas.


Can't say I'm happy with this "additional opportunities". I avoided any unlimited/flat fee and shared revenue plan so far, but Wirestock decided to throw my stuff in.
They'd better made those agencies available as an extra selectable option, but I guess they don't want to do that because very few of us would opt-in.

So beware, if you're still using Wirestock and don't want your content on those agencies: don't select extra channels!
It's basically giving Wirestock the permission to do whatever they want with your content.

Than why did you opt in in the first place? That was very clear from the begining. Reading T&Cs and FAQs helps  ;)

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« Reply #2 on: October 03, 2022, 02:32 »
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Just found out that Wirestock also partnered up with Freepik, Canva and 123RF, all under the Extra Channels umbrella.

This means that all of your content which was selected for Extra Channels is now available on Freepik (flat fee/unlimited downloads shared revenue, or whatever you call that program) Selected content will be provided to 123RF (PLUS program I assume) and Canva.

The previously also had the Korean agency Miricanvas under extra channels, also a shared revenue plan.

It shows in our sales dashboard: 3 cents per download at 123RF and 4 cents for what I assume to be Freepik sales.

Can't say I'm happy with this "additional opportunities". I avoided any unlimited/flat fee and shared revenue plan so far, but Wirestock decided to throw my stuff in.
They'd better made those agencies available as an extra selectable option, but I guess they don't want to do that because very few of us would opt-in.

So beware, if you're still using Wirestock and don't want your content on those agencies: don't select extra channels!
It's basically giving Wirestock the permission to do whatever they want with your content.

Well that's informative as I didn't know about the Miricanvas, Canva part. 123RF has been extra channels for some time, as (between the two of them I don't know if I can trust either?) WS said because of intake, they had changed and 123RF was listed as Extra Channels, instead of an agency. What I mean is, earlier, 123RF was an agency same as the rest.

I don't know if something changed but Freepik was disclosed as an Instant Pay, which Adobe was also a client, and that's not the same as extra channels.

Instant Pay is a one time fee, forever. There is an opt out if the whole forever part is too ominous. But there is a choice at least. Opt in or Opt out.

Bottom Line, Extra Channels is not the same as Instant Pay.


« Reply #3 on: October 03, 2022, 06:21 »
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This means that all of your content which was selected for Extra Channels is now available on Freepik

No, it doesn't. Selected content only, same as other extra channels.

4 cents for what I assume to be Freepik sales. 

No, that's Miricanvas.


Can't say I'm happy with this "additional opportunities". I avoided any unlimited/flat fee and shared revenue plan so far, but Wirestock decided to throw my stuff in.
They'd better made those agencies available as an extra selectable option, but I guess they don't want to do that because very few of us would opt-in.

So beware, if you're still using Wirestock and don't want your content on those agencies: don't select extra channels!
It's basically giving Wirestock the permission to do whatever they want with your content.

Than why did you opt in in the first place? That was very clear from the begining. Reading T&Cs and FAQs helps  ;)

You are right, Freepik is indeed selected content, so probably not all content.
How do you know it's Miricanva? I had Miricanvas sales in the past, not that much, and at 9 cents/sale.
Now I had significantly more sales in Extra Channels, at a much lower rate, so I assumed those were the Freepik ones.

I beg to differ that it was clear from the beginning that Extra Channels would mean unlimited/shared revenue plans. I uploaded the biggest chunk of my content to Wirestock 2 years ago and I remember them selling Extra Channels as rather one-time opportunities, direct sales to companies or negotiated prices "up to $500". Not just adding another agency (but instead of making it available as a channel which you can deselect, just aggregate that agency under "Extra Channels")

In my opinion, contributors still should have the choice to opt-out for agencies.

And yes, it is now mentioned otherwise in their TOS: When you submit an item of Content to Wirestock, you will be given the option of selecting that the item of Content be included for "Extra Channels." Extra Channels allows Wirestock to decide how and with whom to monetize your Content (the "Extra Channels Program"), including, but not limited to, through licensing with stock agencies, print-on demand marketplaces, and API integration.


Extra channels is basically giving them 'carte blanche' sell your content to whomever they like at whatever price. In practice, this means unfortunately unlimited and shared revenue plans.

Well that's informative as I didn't know about the Miricanvas, Canva part. 123RF has been extra channels for some time, as (between the two of them I don't know if I can trust either?) WS said because of intake, they had changed and 123RF was listed as Extra Channels, instead of an agency. What I mean is, earlier, 123RF was an agency same as the rest.

I don't know if something changed but Freepik was disclosed as an Instant Pay, which Adobe was also a client, and that's not the same as extra channels.

Instant Pay is a one time fee, forever. There is an opt out if the whole forever part is too ominous. But there is a choice at least. Opt in or Opt out.

Bottom Line, Extra Channels is not the same as Instant Pay.

Yes, 123RF was available as a selectable option for a while, but they closed it because, as far as I understood, 123RF could not cope with the volume Wirestock provided. So some content got through, but a lot of it didn't. The content that got through, is still being reported as 123RF sales.

I guess things changed with the PLUS program of 123RF. Selected content is also available there now. It still shows up as 123RF sales, so not sure this is the initial collection or also newer files are included.

And yes, extra channels is different than instant pay. In my opinion, they should either make agencies like Freepik, Canva, or Miricanvas a selectable option.
Or rename Extra Channels to "Revenue Sharing", so it's very clear that your content will be made available to agencies that offer those plans.

SVH

« Reply #4 on: October 03, 2022, 11:08 »
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While we are talking about wirestock. I see they have a lot of free photos on Adobe. So that means they cashed in on the $5 deal, right? Anyone got money for this?

Edit: I got it myself, since I was apparently opted in, and received the money for it. So good from wirestock. Fair and square.
« Last Edit: October 03, 2022, 11:14 by SVH »

Uncle Pete

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« Reply #5 on: October 03, 2022, 11:13 »
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I guess things changed with the PLUS program of 123RF. Selected content is also available there now. It still shows up as 123RF sales, so not sure this is the initial collection or also newer files are included.

And yes, extra channels is different than instant pay. In my opinion, they should either make agencies like Freepik, Canva, or Miricanvas a selectable option.
Or rename Extra Channels to "Revenue Sharing", so it's very clear that your content will be made available to agencies that offer those plans.

As I understood and I could be wrong, they were still adding new files to 123RF. Only way I could confirm that would be find one of mine, that's a recent upload as available on 123RF. I don't care enough to take the time.

Good point, we should be able to select which ones for extra channels, the same as we can for agencies.

While we are talking about wirestock. I see they have a lot of free photos on Adobe. So that means they cashed in on the $5 deal, right? Anyone got money for this?

The free photos on Adobe are from WS under the Instant Pay. They are for one year and we get 85% of what Adobe pays, same as other images that are managed by WS. The Instant Pay for Freepiks are one time payment, forever. Which I'd say, for anyone who cares, is a good reason to Opt. out of Instant Pay for images you might care about the use and income.

SVH

« Reply #6 on: October 03, 2022, 11:16 »
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I guess things changed with the PLUS program of 123RF. Selected content is also available there now. It still shows up as 123RF sales, so not sure this is the initial collection or also newer files are included.

And yes, extra channels is different than instant pay. In my opinion, they should either make agencies like Freepik, Canva, or Miricanvas a selectable option.
Or rename Extra Channels to "Revenue Sharing", so it's very clear that your content will be made available to agencies that offer those plans.

As I understood and I could be wrong, they were still adding new files to 123RF. Only way I could confirm that would be find one of mine, that's a recent upload as available on 123RF. I don't care enough to take the time.

Good point, we should be able to select which ones for extra channels, the same as we can for agencies.

While we are talking about wirestock. I see they have a lot of free photos on Adobe. So that means they cashed in on the $5 deal, right? Anyone got money for this?

The free photos on Adobe are from WS under the Instant Pay. They are for one year and we get 85% of what Adobe pays, same as other images that are managed by WS. The Instant Pay for Freepiks are one time payment, forever. Which I'd say, for anyone who cares, is a good reason to Opt. out of Instant Pay for images you might care about the use and income.


Thanks Pete, I just discovered it myself through an instant pay. But luckily I don't have my premium photos there so I don't mind. That was a good 4,25 made easily :)

« Reply #7 on: October 04, 2022, 12:56 »
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3 to 4 cents per image.
The race to the bottom is not over yet. There's another "level" coming soon: 1 cent per image.

« Reply #8 on: October 04, 2022, 13:51 »
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I guess things changed with the PLUS program of 123RF. Selected content is also available there now. It still shows up as 123RF sales, so not sure this is the initial collection or also newer files are included.

Yes, that's what I thought too, but I never seen any more files accepted. At least, not that I know of.

Now that 123RF files are included (old and new submissions?) I see a lot more downloads. Also from Miricanvas or Freepik, whatever it is.

I see files selling that never sold before. Multiple times. For me, it seems like there's little competition in those collections or agencies which use the unlimited download plans. In other words: crapstock started selling suddenly. I only wished I excluded my better images from "Extra Channels"


 

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