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« Reply #25 on: December 14, 2013, 19:38 »
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great to see I was opted out of this already.. (in my api, it's already set to "opt out" somehow) but I am very glad it was..

I just don't see how anyone would opt in to this..

that's why it was not advertised, and secretly launched until they got caught by microstockgroup detectives..


« Reply #26 on: December 14, 2013, 21:50 »
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great to see I was opted out of this already.. (in my api, it's already set to "opt out" somehow) but I am very glad it was..

I just don't see how anyone would opt in to this..

that's why it was not advertised, and secretly launched until they got caught by microstockgroup detectives..

We need them!

AYA

« Reply #27 on: December 14, 2013, 22:23 »
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Hi,

Just to clarify - there is no DAILY download limit, but there is a monthly. http://yayimages.com/support/2-uncategorised/28-how-many-images-do-i-get-in-a-month
It's also not allowed to use our subscriptions to build an internal image bank for a company or a service.

For those wanting to opt-out you can do so at yaymicro.com, API details.

Cheers,

Linda


How long does it take for the images to be removed from the site? I unchecked all the sites in the API details but my images still show up in searches.

Thank you!

« Reply #28 on: December 15, 2013, 02:42 »
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great to see I was opted out of this already.. (in my api, it's already set to "opt out" somehow) but I am very glad it was..

I just don't see how anyone would opt in to this..

that's why it was not advertised, and secretly launched until they got caught by microstockgroup detectives..


Well, the detectives could have just searched MSG forum...
http://www.microstockgroup.com/yaymicro/yay-newsletter-information-about-new-product/

« Reply #29 on: December 15, 2013, 05:02 »
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This streaming model of YAY is an outrage, a slap in the face for all contributors! Shame on you, YAY!

« Reply #30 on: December 15, 2013, 09:35 »
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The good thing is that YAY lets us opt out of individual deals - I wish all other sites made it so easy.  I was already opted out of their deals with Alamy and pond5, and now this one.  Thanks to MSG members for bringing this to our attention.

« Reply #31 on: December 15, 2013, 12:55 »
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It isn't that surprising that a small site is trying to carve out a market by whatever means.  The surprising thing is the amount of people that seem to be submitting there. 

« Reply #32 on: December 15, 2013, 13:19 »
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It isn't that surprising that a small site is trying to carve out a market by whatever means.  The surprising thing is the amount of people that seem to be submitting there.
Agree. But there are still small agencies that pay decent prices. I have in a year for example at Zoonar or Phopress more sales than I ever had at YAY. And Phopress for example not even appeared on the poll results list.

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« Reply #33 on: December 15, 2013, 15:43 »
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It's also not allowed to use our subscriptions to build an internal image bank for a company or a service.

yeah but this is legally unenforceable outside western countries.

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« Reply #34 on: December 15, 2013, 15:44 »
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woohoo .. THE END OF MICRO .... ?

it seems the doom & gloom prophecies were right.

« Reply #35 on: December 16, 2013, 05:55 »
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The opt-out is for the site as a whole - yayimages.com. The site updates once every 24 hours, so it can take some hours before your images are removed. If you want to close your account youll have to send an email to
[email protected], as we cant handle these request from a forum post.

As for control with customers, we monitor customer use and if we see anything suspicious well contact the customer. Often the customer will contact us if they need a lot of images, as most people want to be honest and they dont want to break any copyright rules. Its not the people who use stock agencies thats our main concern, its all those people and businesses using Google images as a free images-tool. And thats why weve created our streaming option - we want to give people an easy to use, affordable priced online image solution. We havent looked at other stock image prices when developing our Streaming product, but on other online products such as Spotify, Netflix, Wordpress etc.

We're launching it in January, and this is a brand new site with a new product aimed at online users with our streaming option. You can watch our video to get a short intro to the site and streaming: http://yayimages.com/support/50-yay-images-introduction-video  With streaming we'll also get information about where images are used, and how many views they have. This will help us develop the product and the site further, and we'll also share this information with you (general numbers + your specific numbers). You can read about the different subs on our site, http://yayimages.com It's live, but we haven't launched yet.

If you have any questions you can contact us at [email protected], or directly at [email protected].


Happy Holidays!


Linda

« Reply #36 on: December 16, 2013, 06:35 »
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most people want to be honest and they dont want to break any copyright rules

Most naive thing I've ever read.

Beppe Grillo

« Reply #37 on: December 16, 2013, 08:34 »
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most people want to be honest and they dont want to break any [] rules.

and you are the first to break any [common*] rules  :o

* respect, ethics, fairplay, transparency, honesty, truth etc.
« Last Edit: December 16, 2013, 08:38 by Beppe Grillo »

« Reply #38 on: December 16, 2013, 08:36 »
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« Last Edit: May 12, 2014, 00:04 by tickstock »

« Reply #39 on: December 16, 2013, 09:18 »
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You simply can't enforce the rule against companies building internal databases from subscription services.  I've talked to at least three designers who work for mid-sized companies.  They have all built internal databases from subscription downloads.  Two of the designers didn't know it was against the rules and the other one didn't care.

No, it's one of those rules they have no chance of enforcing.  They might watch the behavior of the client, and if they download the maximum every day, call them on it, since obviously they can't really use 75 a day, or whatever.

But again, their ability to enforce is minimal. If you download the max 75 per day, you are doing nothing wrong. Right or wrong, it is allowed in the subscription plan. If the business turns around and tries to penalize the firm downloading the max allowed per day, it will never stand up to legal scrutiny.

« Reply #40 on: December 16, 2013, 10:05 »
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I closed my account immediately after I saw this deal! It was the easiest think to do, YAY sells next to nothing!
I don't need more explanation of the obvious! You are talking just for streaming and nothing for the Print Subscription and PRO Subscription!

"Print Subscription - $99

Youre a newspaper, an ad agency, a marketing start-up and you need double-take-great images. Well, luckily for both of us, we can help!

Our print image subscription gives you the high-res files you need for design jobs and print and access to our smaller-sized streaming images. We even give you the original high-res file so you can modify the image without loosing any quality. You can even print it with 300 DPI!

Like our other subscriptions, you get our on-site photo editing software and filters and free photo hosting. All that uploading and downloading are a thing of the past!

Our print subscription is the lowest on the market, just $99 for full access to our images and vector files - and no daily limit on downloads, just a monthly limit of 1000. Need more images? Contact us and we'll help you. Please note that it's not allowed to use this subscription service to build your own image library, but the images you license are yours to use for as long as you want, also on other projects.

As always, all our images have a royalty free license, so its legal to use them in ads, logos, web design, books, newspapers, and movies. The images are high-resolution original files, you get the largest version of the image. Image sizes are high resolution, original files.
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PRO Subscription  -  $499

Want to take this to a whole new level? Our Pro subscription offers you the benefits of our print subscription (high-res files, no limits to daily downloads, vector images, on-site photo editing and hosting) with a few extra bells and whistles.

This subscription includes extended licensure - perfect for unlimited runs, product packaging, and resale items. You will get up to 100 extended licenses each month with the Pro subscription. We also give our Pro subscribers prioritized customer service so youll never, ever have to wait for answers to your questions."

If somebody downloads the maximum quota, the contributor will get $0,05 for a sale or $2,50 for an EL sale!!!

EmberMike

« Reply #41 on: December 16, 2013, 10:15 »
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Glad I don't sell at Yay. Seems like another company on the wrong side of contributor relations, trying to sneak in some new "features" that give the buyers too much and the artists not nearly enough.

We've got enough problems in this business already. Don't need to support another one.


« Reply #42 on: December 16, 2013, 11:14 »
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... And thats why weve created our streaming option - we want to give people an easy to use, affordable priced online image solution. We havent looked at other stock image prices when developing our Streaming product, but on other online products such as Spotify, Netflix, Wordpress etc.

We're launching it in January, and this is a brand new site with a new product aimed at online users with our streaming option. ...


And see how well services like Spotify are working from the artists' point of view

http://readwrite.com/2013/12/06/streaming-music-competition-pandora-rdio-spotify#awesm=~oq8kIDygYYUGi6

EmberMike

« Reply #43 on: December 16, 2013, 13:26 »
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... And thats why weve created our streaming option - we want to give people an easy to use, affordable priced online image solution. We havent looked at other stock image prices when developing our Streaming product, but on other online products such as Spotify, Netflix, Wordpress etc.

We're launching it in January, and this is a brand new site with a new product aimed at online users with our streaming option. ...


And see how well services like Spotify are working from the artists' point of view

http://readwrite.com/2013/12/06/streaming-music-competition-pandora-rdio-spotify#awesm=~oq8kIDygYYUGi6


Good point. Spotify isn't a good thing to be compared to when you're talking to the people who create the content.

All the more reason it seems like Yay is out of touch and headed in a bad direction.

« Reply #44 on: December 16, 2013, 13:55 »
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« Last Edit: May 12, 2014, 00:03 by tickstock »

« Reply #45 on: December 16, 2013, 17:32 »
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Already opted out!

« Reply #46 on: December 16, 2013, 17:57 »
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Lucky for me, I never got into Yay.  If I had, I'd be getting out so fast that I'd be burning rubber in reverse.

"Streaming", and APIs, are the next step after subscriptions - even less accountablity, even less connection between the sale of an image and the payment of a royalty.   The new TOS will be "we do whatever we want with your images, and pay you whatever we feel like."   And it's not just Yay.


« Last Edit: December 16, 2013, 18:01 by stockastic »

« Reply #47 on: December 16, 2013, 18:02 »
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It makes me wonder if this YAY streaming model actually does not violate the Norwegian copyright law, as a control of possible injury is completely excluded.

« Reply #48 on: December 16, 2013, 18:20 »
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... And thats why weve created our streaming option - we want to give people an easy to use, affordable priced online image solution. We havent looked at other stock image prices when developing our Streaming product, but on other online products such as Spotify, Netflix, Wordpress etc.

We're launching it in January, and this is a brand new site with a new product aimed at online users with our streaming option. ...


And see how well services like Spotify are working from the artists' point of view

http://readwrite.com/2013/12/06/streaming-music-competition-pandora-rdio-spotify#awesm=~oq8kIDygYYUGi6


Good point. Spotify isn't a good thing to be compared to when you're talking to the people who create the content.

All the more reason it seems like Yay is out of touch and headed in a bad direction.


Actually Yay is completely in touch with the Spotify's of the world. They make their money by devaluing other people's art. I truly believe we are headed toward the lowest point in human history for art creation, as there will soon no longer be incentive for any artist to create anything. At least we can smile when Spotify loses their business model.

« Reply #49 on: December 16, 2013, 19:09 »
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Actually Yay is completely in touch with the Spotify's of the world. They make their money by devaluing other people's art. I truly believe we are headed toward the lowest point in human history for art creation, as there will soon no longer be incentive for any artist to create anything.

Musicians stared into that same abyss but were able to step back from it.  Maybe photographers can too.

But it looks pretty dark, right now.



 

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