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« Reply #25 on: April 09, 2019, 06:09 »
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I really didn't expect this place to be such a hostile environment, there's some toxic people here but i'm glad everyone isn't like this. Thank you to the 1 genuine response iv'e had from this forum.
Tell us who you are and what academic institution you are studying at and you might find us less so but I'm guessing you won't.

My name is Gavin Roberts and I'm studying at Staffordshire university in the third year of a Film and TV Production Technology Degree. I have no problem stating this as I am genuine. I'd be more than willing to meet in person even if someone was local. I have nothing to hide.
Thanks for that you might want to take a look at this. https://www.mrs.org.uk/pdf/2014-09-01%20Online%20Research%20Guidelines.pdf
« Last Edit: April 09, 2019, 06:13 by Pauws99 »


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« Reply #26 on: April 09, 2019, 06:09 »
+2
Obviously a non-academic survey intended to take precious information and use it for personal gain. It even has spelling errors (Q3: "How long have you ben a video stock creator?"). None of these questions will give any useful statistics for academical analysis.

Asking for my username is beyond ridiculous. Why would I divulge info to you about my best-selling stock items?

You are way off the mark. The survey is for primary research. If I wanted to copy peoples best selling stock items surely it makes sense that I would view the most sold items which are widely available on most sites as previously mentioned by someone else. The only personal gain I expect is to pass my degree with a first class honours for which I am currently in a good position to do so. Well done for spotting the typo but this has no bearing on the legitimacy of my request.

I have asked for usernames so people who complete the survey can be confirmed as genuine and it is less invasive than asking for a real name or email address. I have no issue with you not wanting to complete the survey but please don't try and sabotage it. I'm more than willing to take on any suggestions you have to improve the survey and resolve your personal issues with it.

Surveys are normally supposed to be anonymous, as certain answers may be private. When you ask for names and other personal information, you need to comply to privacy laws as well, how you store the information and for how long. By asking our (user)names you could easily build a complete picture of each and every participant.

You're talking about me sabotaging your survey. I'm just warning people and at the same time lecturing you that this is a very questionable way to gather statistical information, ESPECIALLY if it's used for (academical) research.

« Reply #27 on: April 09, 2019, 06:12 »
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I really didn't expect this place to be such a hostile environment, there's some toxic people here but i'm glad everyone isn't like this. Thank you to the 1 genuine response iv'e had from this forum.
Tell us who you are and what academic institution you are studying at and you might find us less so but I'm guessing you won't.

My name is Gavin Roberts and I'm studying at Staffordshire university in the third year of a Film and TV Production Technology Degree. I have no problem stating this as I am genuine. I'd be more than willing to meet in person even if someone was local. I have nothing to hide.
Thanks for that


No problem.

« Reply #28 on: April 09, 2019, 06:22 »
+1
Obviously a non-academic survey intended to take precious information and use it for personal gain. It even has spelling errors (Q3: "How long have you ben a video stock creator?"). None of these questions will give any useful statistics for academical analysis.

Asking for my username is beyond ridiculous. Why would I divulge info to you about my best-selling stock items?

You are way off the mark. The survey is for primary research. If I wanted to copy peoples best selling stock items surely it makes sense that I would view the most sold items which are widely available on most sites as previously mentioned by someone else. The only personal gain I expect is to pass my degree with a first class honours for which I am currently in a good position to do so. Well done for spotting the typo but this has no bearing on the legitimacy of my request.

I have asked for usernames so people who complete the survey can be confirmed as genuine and it is less invasive than asking for a real name or email address. I have no issue with you not wanting to complete the survey but please don't try and sabotage it. I'm more than willing to take on any suggestions you have to improve the survey and resolve your personal issues with it.

Surveys are normally supposed to be anonymous, as certain answers may be private. When you ask for names and other personal information, you need to comply to privacy laws as well, how you store the information and for how long. By asking our (user)names you could easily build a complete picture of each and every participant.

You're talking about me sabotaging your survey. I'm just warning people and at the same time lecturing you that this is a very questionable way to gather statistical information, ESPECIALLY if it's used for (academical) research.


Thank you for the much more constructive response, I appreciate it. I really do. Unfortunately this is not my area of expertise so thank you for the feedback. I may not be the best survey creator but my written work has consistently been at distinction level over the last 3 years. I take your point about being anonymous, the idea was to be completely transparent with regards to my lecturers so my sources couldn't be called in to question as I'm sure there are a lot of dishonest students out there who make up responses/responders to their surveys(like I say surveys aren't my strength). I personally like to do everything honestly in my approach as I'm a sucker for living my life as factually accurate as possible.


Do you have any other suggestions that may make the survey more palatable for responders? The last thing I want to do is make people feel uncomfortable.

« Reply #29 on: April 09, 2019, 06:33 »
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I really didn't expect this place to be such a hostile environment, there's some toxic people here but i'm glad everyone isn't like this. Thank you to the 1 genuine response iv'e had from this forum.
Tell us who you are and what academic institution you are studying at and you might find us less so but I'm guessing you won't.

My name is Gavin Roberts and I'm studying at Staffordshire university in the third year of a Film and TV Production Technology Degree. I have no problem stating this as I am genuine. I'd be more than willing to meet in person even if someone was local. I have nothing to hide.
Thanks for that you might want to take a look at this. https://www.mrs.org.uk/pdf/2014-09-01%20Online%20Research%20Guidelines.pdf

Thanks for the insight, this stuff is pretty alien to me. Much appreciated.

« Reply #30 on: April 09, 2019, 06:40 »
+1
I have now removed the Username question, thanks for the feedback.

ShadySue

« Reply #31 on: April 09, 2019, 06:40 »
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I really didn't expect this place to be such a hostile environment, there's some toxic people here but i'm glad everyone isn't like this. Thank you to the 1 genuine response iv'e had from this forum.
Tell us who you are and what academic institution you are studying at and you might find us less so but I'm guessing you won't.

My name is Gavin Roberts and I'm studying at Staffordshire university in the third year of a Film and TV Production Technology Degree. I have no problem stating this as I am genuine. I'd be more than willing to meet in person even if someone was local. I have nothing to hide.
If there's even a chance that this is a genuine academic project, your university has done nothing to guide you on getting information. Mind you, if it's true that you have only three weeks to get your dissertation finished, you're even more 'take it to the line' than I was.

Like I said, I don't understand why a supposedly genuine academic survey doesn't come with all the proper rubric I've experienced before (from UK universities). You posted on this group, which is a totally unverified and open group. How would you verify that answers were from 'qualified people' (e.g. I could complete the survey and I don't even supply video), did you even consider that people might deliberately write misleading answers (why would they? you're competition!).

The other group I'm on which has occasional student requests like this is a closed group, we had to have participated in a particular event to join (which is the reason for us being asked to participate in the research, all of us are de facto 'qualified'). The students are verified by members, e.g. 'my niece', 'my neighbour's son' or whatever. We are first of all linked to a page by the student (they can't post directly onto the group as it's closed) who introduces themselves immediately, (they don't post anonymously), explains what help they need and why, and if you want to you are then taken to the university page where it's all explained, with like I said the contact details of the director of studies etc. It's always totally anonymous from our side. There really is no reason why anyone would bother to falsify their answers, and they tend to get at least a hundred responses. Like I said, we can also follow up on their studies when they are completed.

You didn't do any of that, and think we are toxic because some of us are suspicious or less than helpful.
LOL!
« Last Edit: April 09, 2019, 07:56 by ShadySue »

ShadySue

« Reply #32 on: April 09, 2019, 06:51 »
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I really didn't expect this place to be such a hostile environment, there's some toxic people here but i'm glad everyone isn't like this. Thank you to the 1 genuine response iv'e had from this forum.
Tell us who you are and what academic institution you are studying at and you might find us less so but I'm guessing you won't.

My name is Gavin Roberts and I'm studying at Staffordshire university in the third year of a Film and TV Production Technology Degree. I have no problem stating this as I am genuine. I'd be more than willing to meet in person even if someone was local. I have nothing to hide.
Thanks for that you might want to take a look at this. https://www.mrs.org.uk/pdf/2014-09-01%20Online%20Research%20Guidelines.pdf

Thanks for the insight, this stuff is pretty alien to me. Much appreciated.
Get a refund from your university.
You should have been told all this at the time you were told about the requirement to conduct a survey.
Also you should have done a dummy run of your survey to foresee problems, and I'd have expected you to have had to run the questions past your director of studies.
« Last Edit: April 09, 2019, 06:59 by ShadySue »

« Reply #33 on: April 09, 2019, 07:08 »
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I really didn't expect this place to be such a hostile environment, there's some toxic people here but i'm glad everyone isn't like this. Thank you to the 1 genuine response iv'e had from this forum.
Tell us who you are and what academic institution you are studying at and you might find us less so but I'm guessing you won't.

My name is Gavin Roberts and I'm studying at Staffordshire university in the third year of a Film and TV Production Technology Degree. I have no problem stating this as I am genuine. I'd be more than willing to meet in person even if someone was local. I have nothing to hide.
If there's even a chance that this is a genuine academic project, your university has done nothing to guide you on getting information. Mind you, if it's true that you have only three weeks to get your dissertation finished, you're even more 'take it to the line' than I was.

Like I said, I don't understand why a supposedly genuine academic survey doesn't come with all the proper rubric I've experienced before (from UK universities). You posted on this group, which is a totally unverified and open group. How would you verify that answers were from 'qualified people' (e.g. I could complete the survey and I don't even supply video), did you even consider that people might deliberately write misleading answers (why would they? you're competition!).

The other group I'm on which has occasional student requests like this is a closed group, we had to have participated in a particular event to join (which is the reason for us being asked to participate in the research, all of us are de facto 'qualified'). The students are verified by members, e.g. 'my neice', 'my neighbour's son' or whatever. We are first of all linked to a page by the student (they can't post directly onto the group as it's closed) who introduces themselves immediately, (they don't post anonymously), explains what help they need and why, and if you want to you are then taken to the university page where it's all explained, with like I said the contact details of the director of studies etc. It's always totally anonymous from our side. There really is no reason why anyone would bother to falsify their answers, and they tend to get at least a hundred responses. Like I said, we can also follow up on their studies when they are completed.

You didn't do any of that, and think we are toxic because some of us are suspicious or less than helpful.
LOL!

I'm not going to publicly denounce my University online, I am distance learning due to several physical disabilities so I am naturally at a disadvantage as I'm not present in day to day lectures. As stated before, asking for the username would have been the qualifying information I needed to confirm the person was genuine, I have now removed this question however (see above). I have no problem sending the finished dissertation to contributors, I have answered all questions here and have been open/honest.

With regards to my timing, I work better under pressure and have consistently gained the highest grades in my class over the last 3 years by cutting it fine. I am a mature student who has previously had a successful career before going to university and am not adverse to being open about the gaps in my knowledge to improve in such areas.


Edit - To be clear, the bulk of my dissertation will be literature review but I am looking to bolster this with input from the direct experiences of established stock creators (hence the survey).
« Last Edit: April 09, 2019, 07:39 by Abstract.Arts »

« Reply #34 on: April 09, 2019, 07:09 »
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I really didn't expect this place to be such a hostile environment, there's some toxic people here but i'm glad everyone isn't like this. Thank you to the 1 genuine response iv'e had from this forum.
Tell us who you are and what academic institution you are studying at and you might find us less so but I'm guessing you won't.

My name is Gavin Roberts and I'm studying at Staffordshire university in the third year of a Film and TV Production Technology Degree. I have no problem stating this as I am genuine. I'd be more than willing to meet in person even if someone was local. I have nothing to hide.
Thanks for that you might want to take a look at this. https://www.mrs.org.uk/pdf/2014-09-01%20Online%20Research%20Guidelines.pdf

Thanks for the insight, this stuff is pretty alien to me. Much appreciated.
Get a refund from your university.
You should have been told all this at the time you were told about the requirement to conduct a survey.
Also you should have done a dummy run of your survey to foresee problems, and I'd have expected you to have had to run the questions past your director of studies.

See above. Out of interest, what's your degree in?

ShadySue

« Reply #35 on: April 09, 2019, 07:13 »
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I really didn't expect this place to be such a hostile environment, there's some toxic people here but i'm glad everyone isn't like this. Thank you to the 1 genuine response iv'e had from this forum.
Tell us who you are and what academic institution you are studying at and you might find us less so but I'm guessing you won't.

My name is Gavin Roberts and I'm studying at Staffordshire university in the third year of a Film and TV Production Technology Degree. I have no problem stating this as I am genuine. I'd be more than willing to meet in person even if someone was local. I have nothing to hide.
Thanks for that you might want to take a look at this. https://www.mrs.org.uk/pdf/2014-09-01%20Online%20Research%20Guidelines.pdf

Thanks for the insight, this stuff is pretty alien to me. Much appreciated.
Get a refund from your university.
You should have been told all this at the time you were told about the requirement to conduct a survey.
Also you should have done a dummy run of your survey to foresee problems, and I'd have expected you to have had to run the questions past your director of studies.

See above. Out of interest, what's your degree in?
Nothing relevant to stock; and it was long enough ago that online surveys weren't an option.
My knowledge about university surveys is all derived from the surveys I've conducted via the other group - at least two Scottish and one English university was involved, probably more.

« Reply #36 on: April 09, 2019, 07:40 »
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I really didn't expect this place to be such a hostile environment, there's some toxic people here but i'm glad everyone isn't like this. Thank you to the 1 genuine response iv'e had from this forum.

We might seem hostile because you are asking personal questions about private information that asks business details of what makes income and a living for some. You didn't identify yourself properly to start. People are going to be suspicious and resent prying questions. Don't call us toxic or blame us for your poor introduction and lack of transparency.

« Reply #37 on: April 09, 2019, 07:48 »
+5
^ Amen.

Wants usernames to confirm authenticity, doesnt feel its necessary to identify self (until heavily prodded).

« Reply #38 on: April 09, 2019, 08:04 »
+4
I really didn't expect this place to be such a hostile environment, there's some toxic people here but i'm glad everyone isn't like this. Thank you to the 1 genuine response iv'e had from this forum.
Tell us who you are and what academic institution you are studying at and you might find us less so but I'm guessing you won't.

The thing is - you have no credibility. A number of people are university educated here, so know that you are full of crap.

a) You don't wait 3 weeks before your thesis is due to do a survey. A thesis usually takes 1-2 years, and this is something that would be done at the beginning. Unless this is an undergraduate course, in which case calling it a 'diseration' is not the correct term to describe what you are writing, but rather a paper.
b) Your questions are too generic to derive any meaningful data. The only one that appears somewhat detailed (perhaps disguised to hide your true intent) - is - "which stock clip sells the best and go into detail".

ShadySue

« Reply #39 on: April 09, 2019, 09:38 »
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 How would you verify that answers were from 'qualified people' (e.g. I could complete the survey and I don't even supply video), did you even consider that people might deliberately write misleading answers (why would they? you're competition!).
...

asking for the username would have been the qualifying information I needed to confirm the person was genuine,
I could have linked to someone else's port/given someone else's username.
I didn't, and wouldn't; but could've.

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« Reply #40 on: April 10, 2019, 09:21 »
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I really didn't expect this place to be such a hostile environment, there's some toxic people here but i'm glad everyone isn't like this. Thank you to the 1 genuine response iv'e had from this forum.
Tell us who you are and what academic institution you are studying at and you might find us less so but I'm guessing you won't.

The thing is - you have no credibility. A number of people are university educated here, so know that you are full of crap.

a) You don't wait 3 weeks before your thesis is due to do a survey. A thesis usually takes 1-2 years, and this is something that would be done at the beginning. Unless this is an undergraduate course, in which case calling it a 'diseration' is not the correct term to describe what you are writing, but rather a paper.
b) Your questions are too generic to derive any meaningful data. The only one that appears somewhat detailed (perhaps disguised to hide your true intent) - is - "which stock clip sells the best and go into detail".

I suspect all your points are well made.  8) But I hear the best wool comes from the UK, so maybe the best wool pulling does too?

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« Reply #41 on: April 11, 2019, 21:17 »
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I really didn't expect this place to be such a hostile environment, there's some toxic people here but i'm glad everyone isn't like this. Thank you to the 1 genuine response iv'e had from this forum.
Tell us who you are and what academic institution you are studying at and you might find us less so but I'm guessing you won't.

The thing is - you have no credibility. A number of people are university educated here, so know that you are full of crap.

a) You don't wait 3 weeks before your thesis is due to do a survey. A thesis usually takes 1-2 years, and this is something that would be done at the beginning. Unless this is an undergraduate course, in which case calling it a 'diseration' is not the correct term to describe what you are writing, but rather a paper.
b) Your questions are too generic to derive any meaningful data. The only one that appears somewhat detailed (perhaps disguised to hide your true intent) - is - "which stock clip sells the best and go into detail".

Just an FYI... dissertation is the correct term for a final year paper in the UK.


 

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