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Last year we talked the had some 10-20 P5 sales I think?now they have 11711 sales priced from $25 to $99.So much with "P5 had no sales for year 2019", right?most valuable BB/P5 clip? aerial in Madrit sold 20 times for $79.Although the contributor could have a better split $1580 if he uploaded by him/herself? hm!?
Quote from: georgep7 on April 26, 2020, 03:20Last year we talked the had some 10-20 P5 sales I think?now they have 11711 sales priced from $25 to $99.So much with "P5 had no sales for year 2019", right?most valuable BB/P5 clip? aerial in Madrit sold 20 times for $79.Although the contributor could have a better split $1580 if he uploaded by him/herself? hm!?Firstly, those numbers are WAY off... Salegt:0 gives you all clips with 1 sale OR MORE. You have to go up in numbers (salegt:1, salegt:2 etc.) and add in the results. And they did not just have 10 sales a year ago. Secondly, (even if that number is wrong), 11,711 sales in one year from 1.4 million clips is incredibly bad - under 1% of the clips sold. Would you be happy with 10 sales per year from a 1,000-clip portfolio? I sell much more than that average per MONTH.30,000 sales on 1.4 million clips per year is also very, very low.---The accurate number of LIFETIME Blackbox P5 sales is 14,038 as of today. That is for 3+ years, an incredibly bad average when you have 1.4 million clips.When we get up to clips with higher sales count even my own <1,000 clip portfolio has performed better! That is compared to a 1.4 million clip portfolio! Not even including membership sales. To me, that makes it insane to believe that Blackbox would give you any kind of advantage (when the truth is the exact opposite).
At one time it seemed every youtuber was talking about it and now suddenly nothing. Did they all get super rich and move to a private island?
What is the salegt:0 that you've mentionedSent from my HD1901 using Tapatalk
Perhaps I calculated or search wrong @ID. I will take your numbers as actually correct, no problem, apologies for possible misinformation!No I don't support BB, I was trying to focus on P5 past year sales for the same period everyone said "no sales!".
Quote from: izzikiorage on April 26, 2020, 05:29What is the salegt:0 that you've mentionedSent from my HD1901 using TapatalkPond5 gives you the sales numbers if you use a few advanced search methods.If you write (EXACTLY, don't add or remove any spaces)artist:blackboxguild salegt:0Pond5 will show you all the clips from that artist with 1 sale or more.If your name is izzikiorage on P5 - artist:izzikiorage salegt:0will show you all of your own clips with 1 sale or more."Salegt" stands for "Sale Greater Than".So, salegt:99will show you all the clips with 100 sales or more.---It's a very fun and educative way to see through the bull**** of many forum posters. ---As soon as I see a forum member (usually at P5) with very strong opinions on how everything new is bad, and how they know how things should be done because they are "old industry professionals active since day one" I check their actual results. Since my own average is almost always MUCH better than theirs, I can continue my way of working with confidence.
Absolutely - https://www.pond5.com/document/help_adv_search.html - but the only ones that are really useful are artist:, salegt: (or salelt:) and maybe itemgt: if you want to limit the results to when a clip was uploaded.You have to know the upload date of at least one clip (from your own portfolio probably) to be able to correctly see the results for the dates you want.
Quote from: increasingdifficulty on April 26, 2020, 06:30Absolutely - https://www.pond5.com/document/help_adv_search.html - but the only ones that are really useful are artist:, salegt: (or salelt:) and maybe itemgt: if you want to limit the results to when a clip was uploaded.You have to know the upload date of at least one clip (from your own portfolio probably) to be able to correctly see the results for the dates you want.Yup! now I see my error. Thank you Curator rating seems also an interesting one, whatever clip makes 5/5 seems to have a chance to be highlighted in relevant frontpage collections they assemble from time to time.
And what is the average sell through rate of all of pond5 or Shutterstock?
Again, dont like bb dont upload.
But to simply say if you upload directly you sell more, at least for me that is not the case. Sales rate for me personally so far is at least equal and for editorial better if I go via bb.
The most valuable thing you can have is CONTROL over your clips.
Here are the numbers from October 2019.Only clips priced $79 and above (since that's where BB starts).P5 - 1,388,862 new clips (excluding BB).BB - 457,915 new clips.P5 was 68.9% better for 3 sales and up. 52% better for 1 sale and up.Considering the 15% BB fee:3+ sales: P5 (without BB) was 98.7% better.1 sale and up: P5 (without BB) was 78.8% better.---Those are the numbers based on a little more than 1.8 million clips uploaded since October 2019 with a MINIMUM price of $79.98.7% can be quite a bit of money.---The important thing here was to see whether being with BB was an advantage (on average) or not. They would have to beat P5 by a bit to be worth the 15%. Clearly, they don't.
Here are the numbers from October 2019.