Author Topic: Vector Pricing Breakdown by Site? (Read 9912 times)

chromaco · « **on:** August 29, 2012, 15:04 »

Has anyone done a vector sales price breakdown for the top 20 or so sites?
This topic came up in another thread and I was wondering if there was some sort of compilation for comparison. I know what my average RPD for each site is but I have never just looked at the vector downloads.

If no-one already has it I will do it myself in the next couple of days and post it here. However if someone already has this info I would appreciate it if you would share.

cthoman · « **Reply #1 on:** August 29, 2012, 15:48 »

This is off the top of my head, so it may need tweaking...

SS- $20
IS- $10-$30
DT- $15-$30
FT - $4-$8
123 - $10
BS - $12
Veer- $30
CanStockPhoto- $5-$10
GL- $5-$15
SF- $10

chromaco · « **Reply #2 on:** August 29, 2012, 22:55 »

Ok, this is what I've come up with - let me know if I made an error somewhere
Ranked by RPD (Some prices/payouts are estimated and or averaged due to credit packages and royalty levels)

Price/Contributor Payout/Ave RPD (including jpgs and subs)

GL- $10 / $5.20 / $4.80
Yay- $15 / $7.50 / $3.50
BS- $13 / $3.90 / $3.25
FP- $10 / $5.00 / $3.15
CS- $15 / $5.00 / $2.60
IS- $20 / $2.64 / $2.45 (RPD does not include Thinkstock)
DT- $30 / $10 / $2.40
IRS- $10 / $4.00 / $2.40
Veer- $20 / $7.00 / $2.15
SF - $10 / $5.00 / $1.80
123- $10 / $5.00 / $1.20
GR- $3 / $1.33 / $1.08
SS- $19 / $5.32 / $0.64

FT, CRE, DP- Not enough credit sales to even consider

Edit: add to the list
TV- $20 / $14.00 / $14.00 (numbers supplied by site representative)

EmberMike · « **Reply #3 on:** August 29, 2012, 23:02 »

GL lets you set your prices, so not everything is going to be $10.

SS $19 single image is just that, a single image. But if someone is buying the 5 image pack, it breaks down to about $10 each.

chromaco · « **Reply #4 on:** August 29, 2012, 23:08 »

Yeah, my numbers have all sorts of those kinds of exceptions. DT has image levels, IS has royalty levels and SS has comparatively huge download numbers. The results are fairly general estimates. Nevertheless, this does give a relatively good idea of how the sites compare.

Toon Vectors · « **Reply #5 on:** August 30, 2012, 00:17 »

I suppose it doesn't really count if you're not getting sales, but just for reference purposes:

TV- $20 / $14.00 / $14.00

chromaco · « **Reply #6 on:** August 30, 2012, 10:42 »

I didn't include a number of other sites that I contribute to for the following reasons. The site is closed to new subscribers, the site doesn't provide enough info for RPD, or I personally don't have enough information to provide an accurate RPD.

@toonvectors I like what you are doing and how you are doing it. FWIW your site is one of the first 3 that I upload new images to. Your upload is super easy and there are some innovative and creative ideas coming from your camp. I can wait just keep doing what you are doing.

EmberMike · « **Reply #7 on:** August 30, 2012, 10:51 »

Quote from: Toon Vectors on August 30, 2012, 00:17

I suppose it doesn't really count if you're not getting sales, but just for reference purposes:

TV- $20 / $14.00 / $14.00

Off-topic: How are things going over at TV?

EmberMike · « **Reply #9 on:** August 30, 2012, 12:04 »

Quote from: Toon Vectors on August 30, 2012, 11:28

Sales have been poor so far, but traffic (and the catalog) continues to steadily grow. Marketing and SEO efforts are being refined and expanded, so hopefully things will start to pick up a bit over the next few months.

Maybe Cory is inspiring me to support better paying agencies, despite low sales. I signed up.

chromaco · « **Reply #10 on:** August 30, 2012, 12:33 »

As long as a new site has it's act together and is professional and has good commissions I don't see any harm in giving that site a portion of my port to test the waters. Stockami, Toon Vectors and Image Toons are the three new guys that I think have some potential to gain market share in the future. I get your argument about volume and like you I'm not as willing as Cory to dump the big guys. Having said that, I really think the industry is changing. I think smaller vector sites that do it really well will be the salvation of the Illustrators. Eventually we will get the sales from these guys and when we do everyone else's commissions will seem to be no longer worth it. When that happens the "new guys" will have the best vector selection and will get most of the customers too.

The photogs here have convinced me that may not the case with photos. But I am convinced it will happen with illustrations. Clipartof is the proof. They do exactly what I am talking about and they are winning (for themselves and for me). I know CAO doesn't take new contributors but these other guys do. If a couple of these new guys do it well they will get the customers and we as contributors will get paid more.

cthoman · « **Reply #11 on:** August 30, 2012, 14:01 »

Quote from: chromaco on August 30, 2012, 12:33

As long as a new site has it's act together and is professional and has good commissions I don't see any harm in giving that site a portion of my port to test the waters. Stockami, Toon Vectors and Image Toons are the three new guys that I think have some potential to gain market share in the future. I get your argument about volume and like you I'm not as willing as Cory to dump the big guys. Having said that, I really think the industry is changing. I think smaller vector sites that do it really well will be the salvation of the Illustrators. Eventually we will get the sales from these guys and when we do everyone else's commissions will seem to be no longer worth it. When that happens the "new guys" will have the best vector selection and will get most of the customers too.

The photogs here have convinced me that may not the case with photos. But I am convinced it will happen with illustrations. Clipartof is the proof. They do exactly what I am talking about and they are winning (for themselves and for me). I know CAO doesn't take new contributors but these other guys do. If a couple of these new guys do it well they will get the customers and we as contributors will get paid more.

I definitely agree. It seems like it may take some time for that to happen, but the signs are encouraging that it has a good chance of happening.

PabloHotsauce · « **Reply #12 on:** October 27, 2012, 22:02 »

Quote from: chromaco on August 29, 2012, 22:55

FT, CRE, DP- Not enough credit sales to even consider

Sorry to bump an old thread, but I've been doing research on what sites to join as an illustrator, and the posts in this thread are useful, but I'm not sure what a couple of these acronyms are. Is "FT" for Fotolia? Why is it not worth it to join? DP is DepositPhotos? CRE is Crestock?

Any other sites to avoid? Thanks.

chromaco · « **Reply #13 on:** October 27, 2012, 22:13 »

Yes those are correct. FYI those sites are almost entirely subs. Sales combined for all 3 site for the last 3 days roughly equal the one sale at toonvectors. I'd rather sell 1 file for a $14 commision than 40 or so files for the same $14. I do upload to those sites still but they only get my slow sellers and they always get them after all of the other sites I upload to.

PabloHotsauce · « **Reply #14 on:** October 27, 2012, 22:36 »

What about Shutterstock? Isn't that mostly subscriptions too? Or is the sales volume so high it doesn't matter?

chromaco · « **Reply #15 on:** October 28, 2012, 00:36 »

Yes lots of subs but on demand sales result in about 2 times the rpd of the others. Also about 10 times the volume is hard to overlook. My earnings there are significant enough to look past all of the sub sales. Having said that, I also wait to upload to SS until the higher rpd sites have had the files a while. I'm not sure if it matters but I like to think I'm giving an edge to the better paying sites in the google searches but holding my uploads for a month or two to the sub sites.

PabloHotsauce · « **Reply #17 on:** October 28, 2012, 12:07 »

Interesting approach, chromaco. I hadn't even considered the Google angle. I assumed most customers had go-to stock sites in mind when shopping for images, but I guess people must also use Google image search to find stuff.

Thanks for sharing. I'm just starting out, but I might try your strategy.

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