I found my images too , including the most recent ones  - no copyright  or any reference to the image owner , seemingly bogus ratings and comments . It looks more like a scam than a partner site .

I found my images too , including the most recent ones  - no copyright  or any reference to the image owner , seemingly bogus ratings and comments . It looks more like a scam than a partner site .

I don't think it is a scam. The seemingly bogus ratings and comments are probably just a marketing ploy hyping up the products. I do think it is a legitimate company trying to make a go of the business, but that's not the point here. The point is that this is a POD site which does not appear to be using the correct license for our images via Fotolia. Not only that, why is Fotolia allowing POD sites to use our images when others clearly do not allow it, as said in my previous post.

Plus it is becoming apparently clearer now that we are unable to opt out of having our images displayed on this (and possibly others) POD site.

Yep, I think you're right too about no reference to the copyright owner. Is it not a policy of Fotolia that the name of the copyright owner of the image/s should be displayed clearly alongside the image on the site. Good point there. On one of Visionbedding's pages they have the following statement:

"Unlike many online retailers, we are selling our own products we created and take great pride in the quality and your satisfaction."

It's the 'we created' part that got to me, that implies to me that they created the designs as well as the product!!!

I haven't had a response from visionbedding yet re which particular stock site they sourced my example image from.  As I said earlier, the visionbedding image number does not match the Fotolia ID number for the image I queried.  Do we know for sure that Fotolia actually is the source agency?

And here's a line from their css style sheet "category.css"

.fotolia_image { text-align: center; margin: 0; padding: 0; width: 450px; height: 300px; display:inline }

No problem. I really want to post about this on the Fotolia forum, but as I'm anonymous here I'm worried that I'm going to give my ID away by starting a thread over there now!
Could someone post a link if they spot a thread started on their forum?

Thanks toots, I saw that. Was just hoping to get some feedback on their official line on this and on POD sites in general.
Maybe someone will stop in here and let us know if this is okay with them or not (?)

No mention from them of the POD site at all, to say they knew about them, or they were looking into them, nothing. Just the above statement.  Well what did I expect from FT lol.

I guess they really like to treat us like mushrooms - feed us crap and keep us in the dark

Quote from: toots on July 22, 2011, 07:46

Quote from: Microbius on July 22, 2011, 02:59

Should this thread (or some of it) be re titled and  moved to the Fotolia section? Seems the topic if now far wider and more important than the one bedding company.

I'm not sure if it can be moved, but I know the person who started it and will ask them to see if they are able to retitle it and move it to the Fotolia forum.

In that comment I meant the Fotolia section of MSG as the subject has broadened out now. A lot of people may ignore it thinking that it's just about the one bedding site, but really it has become about the whole way Fotolia licenses images. The comment was really meant for Tyler to see if he thought maybe it should be in that section. Or I guess we could just start a new thread with a more general title.

Haha, yeah I did realize what you meant about moving it to the Fotolia section on here, not to Fotolia's site forum itself lol.

We could start a new thread, but a lot has been said in this one, so it would be ideal if the whole thread could be moved rather than starting a whole new one.

How would you go about requesting it be moved. I have by the way contacted the person who started this thread via a private message on another forum. Depends when that person reads it.

Leaf will be reading it soon so I guess he'll decide if it's a good idea or not! I guess Anita will have to agree to as she's the OP

Right, Anita won't mind, I'm pretty sure of that.

I asked visionbedding to confirm whether or not a particular image had sold through them.  This is their response:  "sure - log into your fotolia account and it will tell you there".  I've responded to say that Fotolia does not tell contributors who has bought our images (although they used to do so), and asked them to check their records and tell me about this particular image.   

I asked visionbedding to confirm whether or not a particular image had sold through them.  This is their response:  "sure - log into your fotolia account and it will tell you there".  I've responded to say that Fotolia does not tell contributors who has bought our images (although they used to do so), and asked them to check their records and tell me about this particular image.   

Oh dear, I hope you haven't given them any ideas!  

I've written to Fotolia Support with just one question:  "Do sales on the visionbedding.com site of images sourced from Fotolia require an extended license?"   I hope they give a clear answer to this simple question!