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Just checked one of mine on there, it says includes a $5 license fee. As the extended license for that image would cost 100 credits it's pretty clear that they are not buying extended licenses.I think this is really outrageous, I wonder just how many of these sites there and how much money Fotolia has been doing us out of with these shady agreements that side step the terms we signed up to?
I've written to Fotolia Support with just one question: "Do sales on the visionbedding.com site of images sourced from Fotolia require an extended license?" I hope they give a clear answer to this simple question!
Quote from: robynmac on July 22, 2011, 17:36I've written to Fotolia Support with just one question: "Do sales on the visionbedding.com site of images sourced from Fotolia require an extended license?" I hope they give a clear answer to this simple question! Fotolia's response is: "The Visionbeding site is an api partner and does not require the extended license for their sales. Each and every sale generates commission for the artists in real time like normal sales. It is a great relationship for Fotolia."That's pretty clear.
From visionbedding.com"If buying multiple products with the same image, image license fee will be charged only once for the item with the highest priced license fee. All other image license fees will be deducted from your order total"I'm starting to dislike Fotolia very, very much. This whole thing seems really dishonest, I can't get over how they are going out of their way to sidestep the licensing rules they show us contributors.
... Each and every sale generates commission for the artists in real time like normal sales. ...
A good way to send a message to the agencies is to opt out of all partner programs. If the agency doesn't provide an opt-out, opt-out of the agency.
snip...Why would a VB customer have to obey different licensing terms than buying the image him/herself straight from Fotolia?
Quote from: click_click on July 26, 2011, 10:13snip...Why would a VB customer have to obey different licensing terms than buying the image him/herself straight from Fotolia?What you say makes a lot of sense.
... Because they are not licensing the image from Fotolia, they are buying a product with the image printed on it (a derivative product) and the printer/ seller of these products should have licensed the image for this use....
...How can the person who buys the product be buying a license direct from Fotolia when they have never heard of Fotolia or been on the Fotolia website?
... Also has anyone else noticed that there's not even a copyright notice on the images on the bedding site?...
Yep, VB's own statement:"Unlike many online retailers, we are selling our own products we created and take great pride in the quality and your satisfaction."
Quote from: toots on July 27, 2011, 04:45Yep, VB's own statement:"Unlike many online retailers, we are selling our own products we created and take great pride in the quality and your satisfaction."To me that sounds the same like any other printing place like Shutterfly, Blurb, Zazzle etc. None of those companies own the images yet they claim the products they produce are of the highest quality. I'm quite sure they are speaking of high quality materials and printing processes rather than "We make the pictures".The credit line underneath the images would help to clarify that, no doubt.
Actually not in this case as elsewhere they specifically say "our designs"http://www.visionbedding.com/visionproducts.phpI understand the rest of your points, I just happen to think the thin line has been drawn in the wrong place in this instance.