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« Reply #25 on: October 16, 2010, 13:47 »
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Thank you all so much for the support.
I assumed that they had taken down all the images involved, but when I checked the person who stole the images still had their files up while mine had been removed.
I don't blame anyone on here for the confusion, I appreciate everyone looking out for each others copyright and protecting the community's intellectual property.
I am shocked that Shutterstock took down the images without making sure they had it right, especially as I have been selling there for so many years.
I just hope they sort it out quickly.


« Reply #26 on: October 16, 2010, 14:57 »
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Thank you all so much for the support.
I assumed that they had taken down all the images involved, but when I checked the person who stole the images still had their files up while mine had been removed.
I don't blame anyone on here for the confusion, I appreciate everyone looking out for each others copyright and protecting the community's intellectual property.
I am shocked that Shutterstock took down the images without making sure they had it right, especially as I have been selling there for so many years.
I just hope they sort it out quickly.


I am surprised about that too. I hope they get it sorted out quickly for you, too.

Pixel-Pizzazz

« Reply #27 on: October 16, 2010, 20:25 »
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Does it happen often? I mean, that copyright problems like this are neglected by SS management?
I had nothing but trouble trying to get an image taken down.  I was told it was not 'close enough' looking.  These are my actual lips.  I had to get really angry and demand to see the terms that allowed such abuse before they would comply - and you know how I was 'rewarded' - my lips image that had been in the top 50 selling vectors off all time suddenly vanished from the list and subsequently stopped being a popular seller there.

My image was the #295298 - in the attached image.  Is it really that hard to see the other one was just a slightly tweaked and recoloured version?
« Last Edit: October 16, 2010, 20:28 by Pixel-Pizzazz »

Microbius

« Reply #28 on: October 17, 2010, 03:32 »
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Does it happen often? I mean, that copyright problems like this are neglected by SS management?
I had nothing but trouble trying to get an image taken down.  I was told it was not 'close enough' looking.  These are my actual lips.  I had to get really angry and demand to see the terms that allowed such abuse before they would comply - and you know how I was 'rewarded' - my lips image that had been in the top 50 selling vectors off all time suddenly vanished from the list and subsequently stopped being a popular seller there.

My image was the #295298 - in the attached image.  Is it really that hard to see the other one was just a slightly tweaked and recoloured version?
Sorry everyone is having such a crappy time with Shuttertsock, I guess it's at times like these you see what a difference it makes when an artists success isn't a factor in an  agency's business model. It pays to remember with the subs model the more money you make the less they do.
There's no doubt those lips are the same, they have download the actual vector from either shutterstock or elsewhere and just run the simplify filter on the paths, so the look a bit less detailed than the original.
It's really starting to look like they can't be bothered to look into these things properly, or to put it another way, to try to look after their artists and their work. Either that or they are totally incompetent.

Microbius

« Reply #29 on: October 18, 2010, 03:44 »
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Just to follow up on the font issue. Looks like these are the copyright holders:
Font on the list here under Zodiac
http://www.graphxedge.com/fonts/symbolfonts.htm

License terms clearly stating not for Royalty free resale:
http://www.graphxedge.com/license.htm
Restrictions
We do not have many restrictions aside from a few common sense guidelines that we have listed below.

We do not allow our fonts, clipart, or imagery to be resold or redistributed in any way; or for any products to be created which would compete with Graphx Edge or in the creation of any product that resembles our product offerings. (For example: digital image sets, fonts, wallpaper sets, background sets, clip art sets, digital products, art CDs, etc) This also includes reselling these royalty free images to third-parties in order that they may then use these royalty free images to create commercial products.

Graphx Edge retains all copyrights to our royalty free products (fonts, clipart, and imagery) including modified, resized, and colorized versions of our products.

« Reply #30 on: October 19, 2010, 04:24 »
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What is that silence after Microbius post?

« Reply #31 on: October 19, 2010, 05:29 »
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Here's an update of my situation.
I received an email saying that my images have been put back.
I don't want to post it here because it has a warning in the footer about revealing the content.
What it doesn't contain is an apology or explanation about why they were deactivated, it is simply a message saying they are back up.
I am not happy about the situation, but seeing how blas they were about deactivating my files and how little explanation they feel I deserve it seems like there is no point asking for an apology or getting into an argument. It is not worth the risk that they would deactivate my portfolio just to avoid the trouble.
Thank you all again for the help and support, I am sure that this was a big factor in getting this sorted out so promptly.

Microbius

« Reply #32 on: October 20, 2010, 02:24 »
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Glad that that got sorted out.
The way SS are acting over the font issue is just too weird. They seem to have just deactivated all but the earliest zodiac set listed in my posts on this thread. It looks like they haven't even bothered to do a search for zodiac on the site or even read the posts properly: the zodiac font files weren't taken from the contributor linked to, they are taken from a common source (anyone, including SS admin, can just reread the thread to get get the idea, if they can be bothered to read it this time).

Lets see what happens if I do this:
http://www.shutterstock.com/pic-4665649/stock-vector-set-of-vector-icons-for-twelve-zodiac-signs.html
http://www.shutterstock.com/pic-4665646/stock-vector-set-of-vector-icons-for-twelve-zodiac-signs.html

A link to even earlier files using the same font, will they now delete the one they left up just because it happened to be the earliest I listed here?
Lame, lame, lame, start doing your job. Buyers deserve at least the smallest bit of diligence on SS's part.

I still can't believe the missed the fact that so many of "zodiac" files have the same content during the review process

ETA and a couple more examples just to show that I'm not expecting too much.
Remember this just happens to be a category that came up on the forum, not necessarily a particularly bad example and searching for images originating from a single source, I'm not even trying to compare between contributors to see if they have been "inspired" by each other.
All found in last few minutes:
http://www.shutterstock.com/pic-49567072/stock-photo-illustration-of-a-zodiac-disc.html
and a whole series of zodiac signs in this guys portfolio all use a sometimes very slightly modified version of that graphxedge font

more from others:

http://www.shutterstock.com/pic-41327863/stock-vector-zodiac.html

http://www.shutterstock.com/pic-41327866/stock-vector-zodiac-signs.html

http://www.shutterstock.com/pic-34632994/stock-vector-background-marks-of-the-zodiac-a-vector-illustration.html

http://www.shutterstock.com/pic-941653/stock-photo-zodiac-horoscope-brass-logo-virgo-d-illustration-background-wallpaper-clipping-path-copy.html
http://www.shutterstock.com/pic-941601/stock-photo-zodiac-horoscope-brass-logo-aries-d-illustration-background-wallpaper-clipping-path-copy-space.html
etc. etc. another one with a whole set of illustrations based on the font

http://www.shutterstock.com/pic-23352190/stock-photo-zodiac-signs.html
http://www.shutterstock.com/pic-27388534/stock-photo-black-white-zodiac-symbols.html
and more in this port, font again, slightly modified
« Last Edit: October 20, 2010, 03:00 by Microbius »

« Reply #33 on: October 20, 2010, 12:07 »
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If they don`t give enough importance to the problem, than I should start to make some zodiac icons  ::) ;D

Microbius

« Reply #34 on: October 21, 2010, 11:53 »
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If they don`t give enough importance to the problem, than I should start to make some zodiac icons  ::) ;D

Yeah go for it, there's a ton of other nice clip art fonts on the same site that one came from too. While your at it why not trace other contributors photos too, they don't seem to care about that either as they don't ask for your source files:
http://www.microstockgroup.com/general-stock-discussion/thief-among-us/msg167381/?topicseen#new
I wonder what buyers actually use Shutterstock, knowing what goes into the collection. Is it just there for as a resource Heroturko and his thieving friends now?

« Reply #35 on: October 21, 2010, 14:39 »
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Here's an update of my situation.
I received an email saying that my images have been put back.
I don't want to post it here because it has a warning in the footer about revealing the content.
What it doesn't contain is an apology or explanation about why they were deactivated, it is simply a message saying they are back up.
I am not happy about the situation, but seeing how blas they were about deactivating my files and how little explanation they feel I deserve it seems like there is no point asking for an apology or getting into an argument. It is not worth the risk that they would deactivate my portfolio just to avoid the trouble.
Thank you all again for the help and support, I am sure that this was a big factor in getting this sorted out so promptly.

That IS very disappointing. I'm just playing devil's advocate, but maybe they cannot say too much otherwise they put themselves in jeopardy with privacy laws, slander, etc. etc. You know, the criminals are the ones with all the rights. I am in no way sticking up for them, I just try to envision both sides of the coin.

« Reply #36 on: October 22, 2010, 05:17 »
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So what I don`t get is, if those symbols are font symbols from graphixedge, than how it`s possible that someone else is claiming the rights for it. But maybe I`m to shorty.

« Reply #37 on: October 27, 2010, 07:55 »
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Why should SS care? Just more images to make sales with.  :-\

RacePhoto

« Reply #38 on: October 29, 2010, 00:40 »
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Oops - error on my part.

Here's a reject photo for your trouble to come and look here:  :-X

« Last Edit: October 29, 2010, 00:53 by RacePhoto »

Microbius

« Reply #39 on: December 13, 2010, 13:10 »
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Easy way to find out, Cidepix, could you let us know if SS send you any of the money that the thief has made off of your work?

I will; once everything is said and done. I still haven't received any response from SS.
Hey Cidepix, I think I can guess the answer, but did they ever cough up any of the cash the thief made from your work?


 

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