Quote from: rimglow on October 31, 2009, 14:25
 As with all investments, whether a computer or camera equipment, you have to ask yourself, "Have I reached the level where I can afford the best, and will it pay for itself many times over?" For me, the answer was yes.

Hahahaha

My stock income can easily afford the so called "best" every month, but I see no point to get it, because my windows HP laptop is "best" enough for me!

  To say that there is "nothing" about a Mac that makes it the best choice, is to disagree with millions of happy Mac users. I base my research, of what kind of computers and camera equipment my favorite photographers use. If your favorite photographers use PCs, then that would be the "best" choice for you. Of course, it's all subjective.

Quote from: rimglow on October 31, 2009, 14:56
  To say that there is "nothing" about a Mac that makes it the best choice, is to disagree with millions of happy Mac users. I base my research, of what kind of computers and camera equipment my favorite photographers use. If your favorite photographers use PCs, then that would be the "best" choice for you. Of course, it's all subjective.

I don't have a favourite photographer

I base my opinion on how great my high spec windows laptop performs for me! Nothing else.

Quote from: rimglow on October 31, 2009, 14:56
  To say that there is "nothing" about a Mac that makes it the best choice, is to disagree with millions of happy Mac users. I base my research, of what kind of computers and camera equipment my favorite photographers use. If your favorite photographers use PCs, then that would be the "best" choice for you. Of course, it's all subjective.

Then we are in agreement.

My point is that you can't "quantify" anything about a Mac to say that it is "the best".  It is all a personal decision.  Personally, for me I can't justify the expense.

And the Mac market makes up only a small percentage of the overall PC market.  So millions more people feel that the PC is better.

  Although the Mac makes up only a small percentage of the "overall" PC market, I think you will find it makes up more like 50% or higher of those in the creative field (photographers).

  Check this thread, although rather dated: http://www.linkedin.com/answers/marketing-sales/graphic-design/MAR_GRD/239806-10426589?split_page=1

Quote from: rimglow on October 31, 2009, 14:25
  As with all investments, whether a computer or camera equipment, you have to ask yourself, "Have I reached the level where I can afford the best, and will it pay for itself many times over?" For me, the answer was yes.

"Best" is subjective. Best for you...

Yes Paulie, this was covered five responses ago.

Quote from: GeoPappas on October 31, 2009, 14:10
I just upgraded my computer and built a quad-core machine (Intel Q9550 w/ 4 GB RAM) that is super-fast for under $500.  If I had to do it from scratch, it would have cost less than $1000.

Mac quad-core computers go for over $3000.

How many hours did your project take installing hardware and windows? (from-scratch-version)

I don't think Macs are expensive. You get a lot of reliability, design and bells and whistles with the money.

PS. How would you build a 27" iMac from PC parts?

PS2. Mac quad cores for $3000 is misinformation, Here you can clearly see that 27" iMac QuadCores are from $1999, and that INCLUDES a 27 inch screen. http://store.apple.com/us/browse/home/shop_mac/family/imac

Quote from: rimglow on October 31, 2009, 15:41
Yes Paulie, this was covered five responses ago.

Really.  Unless I'm missing something you still look like you're trying to say Macs are just plain best because you, articles, and some other people say so.

That's like saying Ferrari is the best. It's probably not the best for a working single mother of five regardless of what anybody else says.

You and the other sheeple have been drinking the marketing coolaid.

I use whatever works best for me. For now that's Windows. Vista works excellent for me and I like it better than XP which I liked. I tested Windows 7 for a while and like it too. If I found a good reason to use a Mac I'd switch. I haven't seen one.

Yes, you are missing something. We are in agreement. Mac for me, PC for you.

Less cowbell!

I have to say I like the Mac design.
In school we work on Macs.
At home I still have PC  I don't see very much difference in the working field compare PC to Mac.
I only hate vista but I could change it to windows 7.  

For the design I would buy Mac
for the price PC.

On one PC we run Kubuntu  (linux) until now no problem.

Quote from: rimglow on October 31, 2009, 16:40
Yes, you are missing something. We are in agreement. Mac for me, PC for you.

Less cowbell!

Cowbell is the best! 

I like the Canon vs. Nikon threads better ;-}

I use both; but if I had to pick one, I would choose Windows (7).

My iCore7 monster system "built for Windows" cost me less than $1k.  I went looking for the same from Apple, but they did not have it at the time.  Just looking, not buying.  It would have been 3x the price easy.  If all you do is "creative" work then I would say either; but since I play some games, code software, run multiple businesses, Windows works better for me.

But really its Mac OS vs Windows since its all Intel based architecture now anyway.  Buy whatever hardware you want, then choose your OS (disclaimer: I believe you can only run Mac OS on "Apple" hardware per their agreement).

Quote from: Perry on October 31, 2009, 16:14
PS. How would you build a 27" iMac from PC parts?

The same way you 'build' a 27" Mac. Buy it straight from dell or gateway or some other company. Mac isn't the only brand with all-in-ones. And the ones from other companies are much cheaper. Like this quad-core dell (albeit only has a 24" screen) for $1300.

http://www.productwiki.com/upload/images/dell_xps_one_20.jpg

Quote from: Kngkyle on October 31, 2009, 19:15

Quote from: Perry on October 31, 2009, 16:14
PS. How would you build a 27" iMac from PC parts?

The same way you 'build' a 27" Mac. Buy it straight from dell or gateway or some other company. Mac isn't the only brand with all-in-ones. And the ones from other companies are much cheaper. Like this quad-core dell (albeit only has a 24" screen) for $1300.

http://www.productwiki.com/upload/images/dell_xps_one_20.jpg

WOW that's looking pretty cool.
Yhanks for the link

I should rephrase that...I use MS Office 2008 and Adobe Lightroom and PS CS4...what I meant was I don't see why people rave about Aperture and other Apple software...it just doesn't cut it.

Quote from: Perry on October 31, 2009, 11:19

Quote from: PixelBitch on October 31, 2009, 05:25
what is not so great is Apple's software offerings...they seem lightweight compared to MS Office, Adobe etc.

You can get MS Office for Mac too. And what Adobe software doesn't have a mac version? Why would you insist using Apple's software?

I switched from Windows to Mac a few years ago and never looked back. My Mac(s) just work; they very seldom crash, freeze, have viruses or some unlogical weird problems. Life seems just much easier and brighter with a Mac (And I get my work done, too)

Dang, I'm the only Linux user so far....   

Quote from: Kngkyle on October 31, 2009, 19:15

Quote from: Perry on October 31, 2009, 16:14
PS. How would you build a 27" iMac from PC parts?

The same way you 'build' a 27" Mac. Buy it straight from dell or gateway or some other company.

The point here were that the poster told he built himself a PC cheaply. That wouldn't help a bit if someone wanted something as beautiful, simple and space-saving as an iMac.

I'm not sure why the argument. PCs are pick up trucks, they get the job done, but for getting around curvy roads in style they just aren't that much fun. Too often too, you end up calling the AAA for a jump start or pushing them down a hill to get a PC going. That's okay I guess, after all it's only time and aggravation. Meanwhile the super cool dude (dudess) in the Mac goes screaming by, laughing, head back, gorgeous girl at his side. Man on side of road in pick-up looks up and dreams, someday life will be the same for him. "Ah well", he says, "the pick-up was good enough for my daddy."  Too bad daddy never got out of grade school.

I value my time, so it's been Macs since 1987...

ROFL...

They're just a tool, same as your camera.

It's what you do with it that counts...

Quote from: melastmohican on October 30, 2009, 22:09
I have been thinking for a while about my next laptop. Is there any advantage of having Mac instead of PC?

Style and street cred for one 

Really though the apple software such as iworks, ilife, and Aperture simply just works, and with the screens I find my Imagery is leaping off the screens and I pick up so much more quality issues which I missed when with Windows 

My only regret is that I did not switch years ago and when my Sony Viao Laptop packs in I will be purchasing a MacBook!

Macs: Cutting edge, innovative, elegant.
PCs: Good enough to get by, on the cheap.

Windows 7 for me.

Quote from: rimglow on November 02, 2009, 20:06
Macs: Cutting edge, innovative, elegant.
PCs: As good as Macs.

You are right!