Quote from: Slovenian on June 12, 2011, 00:34

Quote from: madelaide on June 11, 2011, 23:52

Quote from: robisklp on June 10, 2011, 15:57
123rf.com is 10x better performer to me than fotolia, how is that possible?

123RF is such a low performer to me that your results surprise me.

How does it compare to the rest? I'm curious to know, since I just dumped something like 138 photos over there (waiting to be reviewed though, but the acceptance should be 100% since they're all on the big 4)

To me istock is in the first place, dreamstime always was in the second place, but now 123rf is in the second and dreamstime in the third, i no longer submit to shutterstock. Last month in fotolia i made 9$... Thats terrible. Looks like new stuff really doesnt sell at all especially to those who have lower rank. Yes, at 123rf you have to have big portfolio to make something. I have over 2000 images there (only 3 rejected images from these 2000), they accept almost everything.

FT, used to be my third biggest earner and now its down to fifth place. Sad.

Quote from: Slovenian on June 12, 2011, 00:34

Quote from: madelaide on June 11, 2011, 23:52

Quote from: robisklp on June 10, 2011, 15:57
123rf.com is 10x better performer to me than fotolia, how is that possible?

123RF is such a low performer to me that your results surprise me.

How does it compare to the rest? I'm curious to know, since I just dumped something like 138 photos over there (waiting to be reviewed though, but the acceptance should be 100% since they're all on the big 4)

To me, at least, 123RF means less than 1/3 than any of the main sites (IS/DT/FT), in its good months.

My earnings are the same or up, but I noticed the best match change as well - my best seller suddenly slowed down a bit, but two other images took off at the same time (images that had been sitting there for long, a year or maybe two). So I won't complain about that. No views on new images is a serious problem though, I noticed that too. Doesn't make people want to continue uploading...

Ive actually had three good days now, cant tell if they have tweaked the best match or not?

Ive also noticed the FT-Hotshots and they are good but honestly, whats the point in promoting these type of Lifestyle-images, plasticky people, etc, I mean, I bet, lifestyles are taking up at least 50%, of the whole stock-market and thay all look pretty much the same, dont they?
Probably makes more of an impact promoting exotic plants or spiders.

For a few months earlier this year, FT had actually surged past SS to be my #1 earner.

It's now slipped back to #2 but doing very well.  I think I must have benefited from the recent changes.

For the record, my earners rank this way: SS, FT, DT, IS, CanStockPhoto, BigStock, 123 (and the rest).

Quote from: lagereek on June 16, 2011, 15:26
Ive also noticed the Fotolia-Hotshots and they are good but honestly, whats the point in promoting these type of Lifestyle-images, plasticky people, etc, I mean, I bet, lifestyles are taking up at least 50%, of the whole stock-market and thay all look pretty much the same, dont they?
Probably makes more of an impact promoting exotic plants or spiders.

Those were my thoughts on the promoted hotshots too, on the other hand, this kind of style (that contributor olly for example executes so well) might be becoming something of a new normal, slowly replacing the "shiny happy people isolated on white" images. Maybe buyers have had enough of what has been so successful for the last years. Fotolia seems to be pushing that kind of style forward.

I don't have the impression that the best match has been tweaked again, and the last few days have been average for me, but since a few days I've been seeing the relevancy within my port changing a couple of times a day.

Are hotshots only in the newsletter (I'm not getting it although I'm opted in) or is it somewhere on their site as well (I couldn't find it)? If it is, could someone post a link?

Quote from: Slovenian on June 16, 2011, 16:51
Are hotshots only in the newsletter (I'm not getting it although I'm opted in) or is it somewhere on their site as well (I couldn't find it)? If it is, could someone post a link?

No, the newsletter is nowhere on the site. I'd pass on the mail, but I've deleted it already. Sorry.

I just went and looked at a batch of 30 images I uploaded mid May.  Some have zero views, most have 1 view and the best was 4 views.  Before they made that last tweak I got a lot of views.  My sales have tanked there from $150-160ish to $60-$75 bucks a month.  Really sucks. I am still going to keep uploading for the next time they tweak the best match in my favor

Quote from: Pheby on June 16, 2011, 17:02

Quote from: Slovenian on June 16, 2011, 16:51
Are hotshots only in the newsletter (I'm not getting it although I'm opted in) or is it somewhere on their site as well (I couldn't find it)? If it is, could someone post a link?

No, the newsletter is nowhere on the site. I'd pass on the mail, but I've deleted it already. Sorry.

If someone still has it, I'd really appreciate if he/she could forward it to me.

BTW if you're using webmail, it remains in the trash for a while (A month on gmail)

Thanks, but it's seriously gone.   

OK, tnx .

I did go and at least check out olly's shots.

FWIW I think I've found out what the changes in the portfolio display are that I mentioned earlier: They seem to be interchanging "Relevance" and "Popularity" from time to time over the course of each day. 

Quote from: Pheby on June 17, 2011, 11:35
FWIW I think I've found out what the changes in the portfolio display are that I mentioned earlier: They seem to be interchanging "Relevance" and "Popularity" from time to time over the course of each day. 

If that's true (popularity) then new images are sunk from the beginning, as is what seems to be happening across the plane.

not sinking but it's always been a slow boat for me. sales seem to come in bursts - but it makes me wonder when three sales in a day can push me over a thousand places up on the relative rank.

Quote from: lagereek on June 16, 2011, 15:26
Ive actually had three good days now, cant tell if they have tweaked the best match or not?

Ive also noticed the Fotolia-Hotshots and they are good but honestly, whats the point in promoting these type of Lifestyle-images, plasticky people, etc, I mean, I bet, lifestyles are taking up at least 50%, of the whole stock-market and thay all look pretty much the same, dont they?
Probably makes more of an impact promoting exotic plants or spiders.

At least they seem to have stopped promoting their 'free images' in the newsletter.

Interesting that they are at the bottom of the top tier and still sinking. I wouldn't be surprised to watch them drop to middle tier in the near future...

Well I hope not!  Ive got a lot of shots there.

Mind you, it just goes to show, a simple best match change and theres no end of troubles, lethal!

Their newsletter said they were moving servers to Toronto on the weekend.  Well, my ranking has climbed 5000 since they moved their servers.  But it had dropped by 8000 the month before they moved.  Hopefully my position is back to the old norm, not the invisible norm.

My second best seller after SS

I am now approaching June as another data point where my sales are about 50% off (lower) that prior to their best match change.  Can't wait to see what happens when Europe shuts down for six weeks.

Quote from: Mantis on June 26, 2011, 13:44
I am now approaching June as another data point where my sales are about 50% off (lower) that prior to their best match change.  Can't wait to see what happens when Europe shuts down for six weeks.

Make that 8 weeks, in worst scenario 12 weeks.
Depending on what country the vacation period is spread over 3 months in europe.

Patrick H.

Sales are picking up!!  last three days have been good actually. Anybody else?

Quote from: lagereek on June 28, 2011, 16:59
Sales are picking up!!  last three days have been good actually. Anybody else?

Nope.  But congrats to you