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subs taking control of DT ??

Started by luissantos84, August 04, 2011, 00:34

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Slovenian

Quote from: Microstock Posts on August 04, 2011, 22:41
Quote from: Ed on August 04, 2011, 22:02
Quote from: Slovenian on August 04, 2011, 21:35
^Reality is harsh sometimes. I'm pretty sure Ed gets it the right way ;)

I get it...no worries.  $5.47 is better than 19 cents though.  Not as good as other places but better than a swift kick in the rear.  ;D ;D

Well that was a good response considering the stick you got. Nice one.  :)

Oh come on! I made a mental note after reading a couple of Ed's posts that showed he is both smart (enough) and has a sense of humour to understand it the way It was meant to be understood. Don't be disappointed he didn't get offended, because of my "rude" behaviour ;) . I just wish there were more ppl like that over here ;)

pancaketom

16/20 subs and plenty of 1 credit level 0 too, my RPD is a whopping .85 so far this month, usually it is between 1 and 1.50. It seems bimodal with larger higher level sales and .35 and under sales.
We get it ... -snip- ... we are lazy, incompetent, greedy or uncaring. Rebecca Rockafellar for Istock HQ

Microstock Posts

Quote from: Slovenian on August 05, 2011, 00:21
Quote from: Microstock Posts on August 04, 2011, 22:41
Quote from: Ed on August 04, 2011, 22:02
Quote from: Slovenian on August 04, 2011, 21:35
^Reality is harsh sometimes. I'm pretty sure Ed gets it the right way ;)

I get it...no worries.  $5.47 is better than 19 cents though.  Not as good as other places but better than a swift kick in the rear.  ;D ;D

Well that was a good response considering the stick you got. Nice one.  :)

Oh come on! I made a mental note after reading a couple of Ed's posts that showed he is both smart (enough) and has a sense of humour to understand it the way It was meant to be understood. Don't be disappointed he didn't get offended, because of my "rude" behaviour ;) . I just wish there were more ppl like that over here ;)

I wasn't disappointed, I was simply remarking at a good response from him after being got at.

Anita Potter

My last 20 shows 10 are subs and 10 are credits.

Now if August could turn out like April did for me I won't be complaining not that I'm complaining now since it's only August 5th.  Give me about two weeks though :P

somethingpretentious

With their new weekly subscribtions there will only be more and more subs on DT as buyers old credits run out  - smart move from DT to intransparent cut contributers commision and keep a larger cut to them selves...

Megastock

Quote from: somethingpretentious on August 05, 2011, 08:15
With their new weekly subscriptions there will only be more and more subs on DT as buyers old credits run out  - smart move from DT to intransparent cut contributors commission and keep a larger cut to them selves...

When I used to calculate the value of credits from the royalties, I was surprised to find that most of my sales come from the 100 or 200 credit pack size.  That still holds true for most of my credit sales.  There has always been a monthly sub that is cheaper than a 200 pack, yet people were still buying those credit packs.  All the evidence we have is anecdotal (since we have no idea if overall sales are up or down, how many of our sales are actually weekly subs, etc.), but one could just as easily argue that the availability of weekly subs will mean fewer monthly subs, and that sub use will go down overall.  There will always be credit sales as people need them for extended licenses, and then they need to use up the rest.

We can be cynical about DT's motives, but if the weekly sub is more attractive than the monthly, they may well be paying out MORE royalties - I have to think someone can make better use of the subscription over a shorter time frame.  Much harder to log in every day for a month and use the whole sub than for a week.  I still think the jury is out on whether a weekly sub is more attractive to a monthly sub buyer, or a credit buyer.  I can see people in both groups who would be attracted by the option, and people in both groups who wouldn't.  The question is how many and in which group.

The proof in the pudding is what happens with RPD and sales.  Since credit packs expire in a year, and subs could expire monthly or yearly, it may be a while before we really know the impact of this change.  Since they brought in the weekly subs, I still haven't had a month that was lower than the previous year for both revenue and RPD - but I can also see that if one is non-exclusive with a lot of level 0 images that would likely be a much different story....

stockastic

Hey, I just had a nice "extralarge (upsized)" sale.  I got 35 cents.   

What did DT receive on this particular sale?   With subscriptions there's no simple answer.  What did the buyer pay, up-front, for the subscription?   How many images did he actually download in return?  We have no way of finding out.

heywoody

What would you get on other sites???  Seems the only difference with DT is that the size is specifed and this rubs salt into the wound...
"When it's good, it's really good and, when it's bad, I go to pieces"

fotografer

Only 9 out of my last 20 were credit sales but 5 of them were over 15 credits so no complaints here as my RPD is still much higher than anywhere else that I upload to.  I love the 1.20$ subs compared to credit  sales that net you a few cents at other sites.

toots


brm1949


eggshell

17/20 here too , WTH ? I had a long streak of large credit sales in July - I guess they are trying to compensate  :D

ToniFlap


Xalanx

Yes, an unusual high percentage of subs lately.

NancyCWalker

In my last 20 I've had 9 subs.

BaldricksTrousers

It is odd the way credit sales come in a wave, followed by a wave of subscription sales. I have even wondered if buyers see different search results depending on whether they have credit or subscription accounts, with portfolios moving up and down the different searches. I guess that's too weird to be so, but it certainly feels like it sometimes.

Pixart

May be a lot of subs, but 2x $ than IS, 9 x $ FT this month and ahead of SS so far.

Slovenian

Quote from: Slovenian on August 04, 2011, 13:04
12/20 were subs.

Wow, things at DT really took a wrong turn. Out of the last 20, 17 were subs :o

TheSmilingAssassin

#43
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luissantos84

a week after now I am 10 subs and 10 credits.. it picked up nicely

daveh900

It seems to go in waves. I had 20 straight sub sales, followed by a couple of large credit sales. Just had a sale with an $11.00 commission a few minutes ago. That one sale bumped my RPD this month quite a bit.

pancaketom

10 and 10 for my last 20. It does seem to go in waves. My RPD so far this month is 2X what it was last month (lots of subs and level 0 small sales last month).

I wish all my subs were of level 0 images.
We get it ... -snip- ... we are lazy, incompetent, greedy or uncaring. Rebecca Rockafellar for Istock HQ

hofhoek

15 subscription and five credit sales and I have a RPD of  83 cents. In June I had almost only credit sales and had a RPD 2.07. Maybe it comes and goes

lagereek

More worrying then subs, is that DT, seems to have gone really quiet. I had a brillant two weeks there and now its kind of just dried up, well, apart from a few here and there.

toots

My RPD for September was only 33 cents  ::)

How bad was that then  :o