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What about Lucky Oliver?

Started by melking, July 05, 2006, 12:40

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leaf

hehe :) that would be fun...

Striker77s

Erdosain, where does it state that.  The only thing I can find is this on their front page. "If your photos are part of the first 30,000 accepted, you'll receive a 60% royalty on each photo."  There is nothing that states their are qualifications on it.  How did you find out that it is only if you are exclusive?

Mark

GeoPappas

#52
Read the beginning of this thread...

I guess that they "conveniently" left out the EXCLUSIVE part!

Erdosain

Mark,
this
LuckyOliver Exclusive (?)
Make more money and be able to sell your image outright. The first 30,000 exclusive images we receive can be sold at a whopping 60% royalty for you.

is what it says when you edit your image to submit. I think that they "forgot" to put it in other place of the site. When I sign up I also thought that I´m going to have a 60% of royalties.

madelaide

Quote from: IRCrockett on July 24, 2006, 17:57
So Lucky Oliver is down now for the second day. Wonder what's going on with them.

I have been accessing them daily without many problems.  Only a few times when I uploaded 5 images in the form I got an error and not all are uploaded, but this was eventual.

Regards,
Adelaide

IRCrockett

Quote from: madelaide on July 25, 2006, 04:23
Quote from: IRCrockett on July 24, 2006, 17:57
So Lucky Oliver is down now for the second day. Wonder what's going on with them.

I have been accessing them daily without many problems.  Only a few times when I uploaded 5 images in the form I got an error and not all are uploaded, but this was eventual.

It's working now but all yesterday and most of today I would just get an error page which I believe said Application Error (Rails) or something to that effect. Looks like it was just me because I have two more sales, the right people were able to get through anyway.

Striker77s

Sounds like they are relying more on marketing skills (marketing tricks) then they are on just providing decent incentives to upload.  If their 60% is only for exclusive photags then I'm going to wait until I see better incentives.  I'm not interested in supporting another 30% only stock site.

Mark

leaf


grp_photo

agreed too!

Come on give us a fair 40% and i will happily upload my 2000+ Portfolio. Dreamstime and Stockxpert prooved that you can run a succesful microsite with even 50% so it should no problem for you!

ichiro17

Wow! 2000+ photos.  If only I could have that kind of range

How are you fairing in terms of return on your photos?

-gareri

grp_photo

To be honest only at one site i have over 2000 Pictures on the others i have about 1500 because of rejections etc.this month is horrible but before it was about 800 to 1000,-$ so my pictures are not the best seller  :'(

Freezingpictures

Oh.. still good collection, i would be happy with 500 $ a month :-) But you are doing it more proffessional I guess. And probably you have to pay for your equipment, I just had to pay for the old used Canon D60 with an average lense which I got really cheap... :-) Hopefully next month will be better..

Greg Boiarsky

Hey!  Lucky Oliver is using one of my photos for their new "music" image promotion (the guitar player)!

Woohoo!

leaf


Erdosain

Congrats Professorgb! The guitar is mine :)

Greg Boiarsky


madelaide

Have you noticed that 1600x1200 pix images do not show for sale at their original sizes?  It's only 400x300 and 800x600.  I have already emailed support about this, they said they'll take a look.  I don't know if this happens in other limiti sizes.  Well, if it's to sell them at a maximum of 800x600 pix, they might accept 1280x960 pix images as well!

Regards,
Adelaide

dbvirago

I've been uploading there for a few weeks. I like the fact there is clearly a person behind this that wants it to succeed. Uploading via FTP is as easy as any other site, so it's not taking much of my time. So far I have an 88% acceptance rate. Also, per the pay rate, I am getting 60% as one of the first contributers I believe. Of course, at the end of the day, it's all about return. I'd rather have 33% of $1 than 50% of .50. That being said, witht the lowest per image out there, Shutterstock will still earn my more money this year than the rest if the trend continues.

Today at Lucky Oliver there is something strange going on - my view count keeps rising quickly. It looks like someone out there is looking at every image on the site once. Don't know if this is real or someone is trying to boost stats.

CJPhoto

You only get 60% if you are the first 30,000 exlcusive photos.  Otherwise you get a small 30%.

Striker77s

Quote from: CJPhoto on August 03, 2006, 18:36
You only get 60% if you are the first 30,000 exlcusive photos.  Otherwise you get a small 30%.

I thought the same thing and was disappointed when I found out the truth.  Personally I think it is bordering on the edge of false advertising, and is a big turn off for me.

Mark

dbvirago

Quote from: CJPhoto on August 03, 2006, 18:36
You only get 60% if you are the first 30,000 exlcusive photos.  Otherwise you get a small 30%.

You are right. I went back and looked. I thought I had a 60% payment, but it was .60 for a $2 purchase. I will see how it goes - it's still about volume. Regardless of %, I would rather sell 100 at .30 than 100 at .25. If the volume isn't there in a few months, they'll get dropped along with other non-producing sites.

IRCrockett

Quote from: dbvirago on August 03, 2006, 18:04Today at Lucky Oliver there is something strange going on - my view count keeps rising quickly. It looks like someone out there is looking at every image on the site once. Don't know if this is real or someone is trying to boost stats.

More likely search engine spiders aren't being excluded from the view stats.

Erdosain

News about LuckyO: Now for every photo that you get accepted they give you a token (its like credits) to buy other photographs.
To me is a good thing because my wife is a designer, not sure for anyone else.

nruboc

I'm sorry, but Luck Oliver's commissions are 30% excluding all their promos. 30% is almost the lowest in the industry - second lowest next to Istock's 20%. To have such a low commission they would need to have the second best sales which they clearly don't have.

My advice to LO: raise your commissions or I predict you suffer a slow death.

My 2 cents.

Photogs - check out Stock Expert and Dreamstime which offer 50% and better sales -wouldn't waste my time on LO with these low commssions

dbvirago

Agree about Stockxpert. Highest avg price I have, but slow sales, so low total. I wish their volume would pick up for me. DT is still #1 in revenue, but SS is coming on strong with 1/3 the per image price. For me, it's still about gross not %. I have approx the same number of images on all sites, although the mix is different due to different reviewers, critieria, etc. An agency that sells 20 images a day at 25% commission is going to gross me more income than an agency that sells 1 image a day at 75% commission.

IStock may have the lowest %, but I have a lot of $1 sales there, so they are consistenly tied with BS for 3rd place which pays 50%.