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Another Massive Best Match Shift

Started by gostwyck, December 21, 2011, 16:14

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Eyedesign

Yes! not great but much better. Best sellers are now push forward again and today I'm getting more sells of images older than 24 months.

CarlssonInc

Quote from: lagereek on January 03, 2012, 17:48
I wont even bother to look. How can anybody live withe these schitzophrenic changes?  beats me.

Stuck, uncertain that the grass is greener on the other side...still hoping things will improve or perhaps just a glutton for punishment.

gostwyck

Quote from: PaulieWalnuts on January 03, 2012, 17:46
Yep, looks like non-exclusive images have been sprinkled back into the leading search results.

'Sprinkled' is the word. One of my regular searches, with 1350 results, shows just 13 independent images within the first 200. Other searches produce similar results.

It's not as bad as it was but it is still horrifically skewed against independent contributors. I see nothing there to motivate me to upload any new images.

SNP

Quote from: Eyedesign on January 03, 2012, 17:52
Yes! not great but much better. Best sellers are now push forward again and today I'm getting more sells of images older than 24 months.

glad for you. I'm barely getting sales.....pretty darn crappy here.

ShadySue

Quote from: lagereek on January 03, 2012, 17:48
I wont even bother to look. How can anybody live withe these schitzophrenic changes?  beats me.
You seem to have managed all right so far.

ShadySue

These spam-laden ingestions are still too prominent, but it is overall better.

BaldricksTrousers

Yeah, its a sprinkling of good sellers among the exclusive files. They'll have to do better than that because they still have the problem that newbies won't be able to sell anything at all, however good they are. If an inde file isn't already a good seller it is nowhere to be seen.

gostwyck

Quote from: BaldricksTrousers on January 03, 2012, 18:22
Yeah, its a sprinkling of good sellers among the exclusive files. They'll have to do better than that because they still have the problem that newbies won't be able to sell anything at all, however good they are. If an inde file isn't already a good seller it is nowhere to be seen.

Exactly.

wut

Quote from: gostwyck on January 03, 2012, 18:09
Quote from: PaulieWalnuts on January 03, 2012, 17:46
Yep, looks like non-exclusive images have been sprinkled back into the leading search results.

'Sprinkled' is the word. One of my regular searches, with 1350 results, shows just 13 independent images within the first 200. Other searches produce similar results.

It's not as bad as it was but it is still horrifically skewed against independent contributors. I see nothing there to motivate me to upload any new images.

Well uploads don't work anyway ;)

ShadySue

Quote from: wut on January 03, 2012, 18:58
Quote from: gostwyck on January 03, 2012, 18:09
Quote from: PaulieWalnuts on January 03, 2012, 17:46
Yep, looks like non-exclusive images have been sprinkled back into the leading search results.

'Sprinkled' is the word. One of my regular searches, with 1350 results, shows just 13 independent images within the first 200. Other searches produce similar results.

It's not as bad as it was but it is still horrifically skewed against independent contributors. I see nothing there to motivate me to upload any new images.

Well uploads don't work anyway ;)
Huh? I've uploaded two this afternoon, the other finished about 30secs ago.

wut

Quote from: ShadySue on January 03, 2012, 19:01
Quote from: wut on January 03, 2012, 18:58
Quote from: gostwyck on January 03, 2012, 18:09
Quote from: PaulieWalnuts on January 03, 2012, 17:46
Yep, looks like non-exclusive images have been sprinkled back into the leading search results.

'Sprinkled' is the word. One of my regular searches, with 1350 results, shows just 13 independent images within the first 200. Other searches produce similar results.

It's not as bad as it was but it is still horrifically skewed against independent contributors. I see nothing there to motivate me to upload any new images.

Well uploads don't work anyway ;)
Huh? I've uploaded two this afternoon, the other finished about 30secs ago.

Than it must be broke for indies only. Working for IS feels to me like dragging a (prison) ball and chain uphill :s

BaldricksTrousers

Quote from: wut on January 03, 2012, 19:10
Quote from: ShadySue on January 03, 2012, 19:01
Quote from: wut on January 03, 2012, 18:58
Quote from: gostwyck on January 03, 2012, 18:09
Quote from: PaulieWalnuts on January 03, 2012, 17:46
Yep, looks like non-exclusive images have been sprinkled back into the leading search results.

'Sprinkled' is the word. One of my regular searches, with 1350 results, shows just 13 independent images within the first 200. Other searches produce similar results.

It's not as bad as it was but it is still horrifically skewed against independent contributors. I see nothing there to motivate me to upload any new images.

I just uploaded one using the site uploader, not deep meta.

Well uploads don't work anyway ;)
Huh? I've uploaded two this afternoon, the other finished about 30secs ago.

Than it must be broke for indies only. Working for IS feels to me like dragging a (prison) ball and chain uphill :s

wut

Quote from: BaldricksTrousers on January 03, 2012, 19:13
Quote from: wut on January 03, 2012, 19:10
Quote from: ShadySue on January 03, 2012, 19:01
Quote from: wut on January 03, 2012, 18:58
Quote from: gostwyck on January 03, 2012, 18:09
Quote from: PaulieWalnuts on January 03, 2012, 17:46
Yep, looks like non-exclusive images have been sprinkled back into the leading search results.

'Sprinkled' is the word. One of my regular searches, with 1350 results, shows just 13 independent images within the first 200. Other searches produce similar results.

It's not as bad as it was but it is still horrifically skewed against independent contributors. I see nothing there to motivate me to upload any new images.

I just uploaded one using the site uploader, not deep meta.

Well uploads don't work anyway ;)
Huh? I've uploaded two this afternoon, the other finished about 30secs ago.

Than it must be broke for indies only. Working for IS feels to me like dragging a (prison) ball and chain uphill :s

I tried it on the site as well, I don't even use DM

gostwyck

Quote from: BaldricksTrousers on January 03, 2012, 19:13
Than it must be broke for indies only. Working for IS feels to me like dragging a (prison) ball and chain uphill :s

So why are you bothering?

BaldricksTrousers

Quote from: gostwyck on January 03, 2012, 19:43
Quote from: BaldricksTrousers on January 03, 2012, 19:13
Than it must be broke for indies only. Working for IS feels to me like dragging a (prison) ball and chain uphill :s

So why are you bothering?

That was shadysue who said that, the quotes got mixed up and I'm not sure where my message went. I was trying to say that I had uploaded one without problems a little while back (site uploader).

lagereek

OH! boy!  are we going to have another 24 pages now of how we are allowed to get a few crumbs thrown at us, the plebs?  and yes, why bother.

ShadySue

Quote from: BaldricksTrousers on January 03, 2012, 19:51
Quote from: gostwyck on January 03, 2012, 19:43
Quote from: BaldricksTrousers on January 03, 2012, 19:13
Than it must be broke for indies only. Working for IS feels to me like dragging a (prison) ball and chain uphill :s

So why are you bothering?

That was shadysue who said that, the quotes got mixed up and I'm not sure where my message went. I was trying to say that I had uploaded one without problems a little while back (site uploader).

I didn't say that. Wut did, IIRC. I also said I'd uploaded without problems (site, not DM).

BaldricksTrousers

Sorry, Sue.

Quote from: lagereek on January 03, 2012, 19:57and yes, why bother.

Because iS+PP is still, as of November (and probably December) my No.2 wealth generator.

Suljo

Did anyone figure if you post something on IS forum and after few words or sentences type word

Lobo

every other words behind Lobo is not visible including Lobo

Is it new kind of lobotomy or just me?

wut

Quote from: BaldricksTrousers on January 03, 2012, 19:51
Quote from: gostwyck on January 03, 2012, 19:43
Quote from: BaldricksTrousers on January 03, 2012, 19:13
Than it must be broke for indies only. Working for IS feels to me like dragging a (prison) ball and chain uphill :s

So why are you bothering?

That was shadysue who said that, the quotes got mixed up and I'm not sure where my message went. I was trying to say that I had uploaded one without problems a little while back (site uploader).

Just wanted to upload one I had forgotten back in Nov. So that the series would be complete. Otherwise I'm not planing on uploading any new content until best match gets back to spitting out "normal" results

lisafx

Sales still very anemic here.  I had hoped for a bit better since everyone should be back to work today, but clearly we are off to a slow start to the new year. 

Freedom

Definitely slow. But January has never been a great month for me.

Micro1

Dear iStockphoto,

Can you please change your search engine to favor DLs/Month. This way buyers get to see a fair representation of good images. Frankly, not all of your "exclusive" images are very good at all. Your future actually depends on keeping buyers happy, not looking after "exclusives" interests.

KB

Quote from: Micro1 on January 03, 2012, 23:04
Dear iStockphoto,

Can you please change your search engine to favor DLs/Month. This way buyers get to see a fair representation of good images.

That would be a fair representation of popular, older files. What would be the point of UL'ing new files under that kind of best match? Similar to independents UL'ing under the current one -- why bother?

They need to go back to the best match the way it was when best match 2.0 was introduced. That best match gave a fair mixture of exclusive and independent files, new and old, and weighted by keywords. That's the only best match that makes sense to me, and it really was a BEST match due to the keyword weighting.

lisafx

Quote from: KB on January 03, 2012, 23:10


They need to go back to the best match the way it was when best match 2.0 was introduced. That best match gave a fair mixture of exclusive and independent files, new and old, and weighted by keywords. That's the only best match that makes sense to me, and it really was a BEST match due to the keyword weighting.

Absolutely right.  They spent ages developing best match 2.0 and it actually worked, was fair to every contributor, and put the best variety of content in front of buyers.  It was sheer idiocy to scrap it in favor of this mess.