Thank you Alex. Does that mean everyone sees a new commission structure on January 1, 2013 or only new contributors after that time?

HI Jo Ann,

It's a system wide rollover for simplicity's sake, however, it does take into account seniority depending on how long you've been with us in 2012, at least.

Alex.

For simplicity's sake, is it a (delayed) pay-cut for all or not?

With info like that you may aswell have come empty handed.

Unclear comments that fuel more questions and doubt than answers.

I'll save my screaming and hollering for later - who knows what might happen between now and 2013? However, the notion that 123rf is to be the latest in a long and ignominious line of agencies upping their take and reducing that of contributors isn't good news.

Forgive me if I'm not all that interested in hearing about 123rf increasing their "long term growth".

Quote from: alex123rf on February 13, 2012, 08:21
It's a system wide rollover for simplicity's sake,

So to make it easy on yourself you will be reducing commissions for all contributors on January 1, 2013.  Am I reading that correct? 

Please consider increasing the prices of the files if you intend to decrease the commission. 

Mat

Quote from: MatHayward on February 13, 2012, 21:46

Quote from: alex123rf on February 13, 2012, 08:21
It's a system wide rollover for simplicity's sake,

So to make it easy on yourself you will be reducing commissions for all contributors on January 1, 2013.  Am I reading that correct? 

Please consider increasing the prices of the files if you intend to decrease the commission. 

Mat

shall we discuss FT?

Quote from: MatHayward on February 13, 2012, 21:46

Quote from: alex123rf on February 13, 2012, 08:21
It's a system wide rollover for simplicity's sake,

So to make it easy on yourself you will be reducing commissions for all contributors on January 1, 2013.  Am I reading that correct? 

Huh?!!  Before it was for new contributors, in 2013 it's going to be ALL contributors?  I don't see how you can apply this to everyone "for simplicity's sake" while at the same time "taking into account seniority". 

I'm not trying to be combative at all, but this seems like a major change from what we were told.  Now I am more confused than ever.   

It amazes me that Amazon can pay e-book authors 70% and these agencies think they are worth more than even 50%.  Moreso that WE let them get away with it.  Not to mention that Amazon lets you pick and change your prices, run specials offer freebies.

Could we have some clarity please. Is it new contributors only effective 2013 or is it ALL contributors effective 2013 or is it something in between ?

All...

Quote from: alex123rf on February 14, 2012, 08:37
All...

Well, there you go, that's nice and simple isn't it. I guess everyones happy now  

Wow, well done to those who weren't even with or actively contributing to 123 and to 123 for listening to them 

Is this greed?

Maybe being on top tier had something to do with this.

I hope you realize that your current position above Fotolia has something to do with Fotolia's greed and their treatment of contributors. Please, don't make the same mistakes.

This is going to hurt long term growth.

No need to worry!

We still have yet to make it past 12/21/12.

Microstock Act? "The bigger, greedier"

Alex can you please explain us what is going on here? I am confused too

Quote from: alex123rf on February 13, 2012, 08:21
HI Jo Ann,

It's a system wide rollover for simplicity's sake, however, it does take into account seniority depending on how long you've been with us in 2012, at least.

Alex.

Quote from: alex123rf on February 14, 2012, 08:37
All...

This is about a clear as mud.
I don't understand why sites continue to post ambiguous statements in a public forum.
All that does is cause anxiety and rampant speculation amongst contributors.
Why don't you privately contact a select group of members to get their feedback beforehand?
Wouldn't that be a better way to take the communities temperature than what you are currently doing?

Quote from: alex123rf on February 13, 2012, 03:51
Hi Everyone,

I do apologize for the silence. We have reached a decision and confident that we have a plan that can cater for the long term growth of sales and earnings.

We will make the official announcement in a day or two and it will be available on 123RF.com.

I don't come empty handed though:
1. the qualification rule has been lifted, and
2. the date of implementation will be stretched till January 1, 2013, thereafter, we'll use the new commission payout structure.

Further details on the MOTD as you login into the contributor account on 123RF within 48 hours.

Let's keep on rockin'!

Alex.

Time and date of post is Reply #149 on: February 12, 2012, 22:51 »

So it is 47 hours and nothing on the site as of now?

It is well within 48 hours and should be up by now.

Quote from: Microstock Posts on February 14, 2012, 08:47

Quote from: alex123rf on February 14, 2012, 08:37
All...

Well, there you go, that's nice and simple isn't it. I guess everyones happy now  

Wow.  That really sucks.  Despite reports of increases from smaller sellers, my experience with 123RF is 5 years of stagnant income, regardless of significant yearly portfolio growth. 

As it is, 123 only represents around 2% or my income.  If that drops, they will become completely irrelevant.  I would like to hear some more details so I can decide if 123RF is going to be worth my time. 

Quote from: Microbius on February 14, 2012, 09:00
Wow, well done to those who weren't even with or actively contributing to 123 and to 123 for listening to them 

I don't think anyone wants to see sites dropping commissions. 

Quote from: alex123rf on February 14, 2012, 08:37
All...

Good Luck and put your helmet on.

You guys aren't big enough and in my opinion haven't garnered enough loyalty to make a crazy, vague, indecisive move like this.  The back and forth, contradictory messages have rattled my confidence in you.  I hope you guys can get it together.  As I've mentioned before, I see potential with 123rf but at this point in my opinion it's drifting away.

Mat 

I'm going to wait until we have something to be upset about before I worry too much.  From what we know, nothing will change for another ten months.  And 123RF has been good to me; they're my #5 earner over the past four years, #4 over the last year and #3 for the last three months.  Aside from their slow review process (19 days and counting), I've had no complaints.  So I'll hope the news isn't too bad and then reevaluate when I know something.

Quote from: alex123rf on February 13, 2012, 03:51

Further details on the MOTD as you login into the contributor account on 123RF within 48 hours.

Alex.

Not looking good it has been well over 48 hours and there is still no info as of yet?

Hi everyone,

The new commission structure is up. You can read it as you log into 123RF and the structure is right below the captcha entry.

I thank you for your patience and for those who have afforded us some amount of faith - I personally thank you very much. I am open to all questions and I promise to answer each and every one. As usual we'll be upfront about things.

All I can say is, allow our track record to speak for itself. We came from humble beginnings have outlasted quite a few agencies and we aren't stopping our growth. I do apologize for dismal review times, I acknowledge we're a bit slow but we're hammering out the videos platform this month, our attention is focused there somewhat.

We are making quite a number of changes most importantly - we've been given the go ahead to expand the operations department threefold. I believe in about 2 months time, long review times will be a thing of the past.

I welcome your questions.... As usual

Alex.