Quote from: traveler1116 on July 24, 2012, 17:09

Quote from: tab62 on July 24, 2012, 16:13
If I go exclusive to IS will I get 12c instead of 8c on my pics? Not a bad deal! 50% increase in revenue!

It will be much higher, 600% not 50%.  46 cents is the lowest you should get at the lowest level (4 credits)($.46 per credit)(25% lowest royalty level)=46 cents.  Also your RCs will about double so many people would be at a higher level as an exclusive than you would be as an independent. (XS prices go from 1 to 4 when you go exclusive so those would quadruple).

The problem is IS just doesn't sell like it used to.  If I took this month's IS sales as an independent and quadrupled them for the commission increase, the number would still be only one third of my total tally counting all agencies.  

OK, maybe I'll get better exposure as an exclusive?  Double that figure again.  Take this month's IS earnings x 8, and I'm still only at about 70% of my total July earnings as an independent.

IS exclusivity just doesn't make financial sense.

Quote from: lisafx on July 24, 2012, 15:05
My sales numbers at SS are holding steady, but the income is way down.  I had been getting EL's almost every day for several months, and now hardly any ELs, so that inevitably had an effect on income.  Whatever they had been doing to promote ELs, I wish they would start doing it again

I wish the same.
ELs are way way done comparing to a couple months ago...

Quote from: traveler1116 on July 24, 2012, 17:09

Quote from: tab62 on July 24, 2012, 16:13
If I go exclusive to IS will I get 12c instead of 8c on my pics? Not a bad deal! 50% increase in revenue!

It will be much higher, 600% not 50%.  46 cents is the lowest you should get at the lowest level (4 credits)($.46 per credit)(25% lowest royalty level)=46 cents.  Also your RCs will about double so many people would be at a higher level as an exclusive than you would be as an independent. (XS prices go from 1 to 4 when you go exclusive so those would quadruple).

when you turned out exclusive you got a 600% increase in your iStock earnings? I was thinking the raise should be at the 300%

Quote from: stockmarketer on July 24, 2012, 17:22

Quote from: traveler1116 on July 24, 2012, 17:09

Quote from: tab62 on July 24, 2012, 16:13
If I go exclusive to IS will I get 12c instead of 8c on my pics? Not a bad deal! 50% increase in revenue!

It will be much higher, 600% not 50%.  46 cents is the lowest you should get at the lowest level (4 credits)($.46 per credit)(25% lowest royalty level)=46 cents.  Also your RCs will about double so many people would be at a higher level as an exclusive than you would be as an independent. (XS prices go from 1 to 4 when you go exclusive so those would quadruple).

The problem is IS just doesn't sell like it used to.  If I took this month's IS sales as an independent and quadrupled them for the commission increase, the number would still be only one third of my total tally counting all agencies.  

OK, maybe I'll get better exposure as an exclusive?  Double that figure again.  Take this month's IS earnings x 8, and I'm still only at about 70% of my total July earnings as an independent.

IS exclusivity just doesn't make financial sense.

I didn't say it was best I was just correcting what tab62 said, the increase would be many times what he stated.  For you maybe it doesn't make sense, I have no idea what your portfolio looks like and if you would have lots of Vetta/Agency files which can bring in alot from being mirrored at Getty.  Also your PP sales would bring in 30-50% more depending on your level.  

Quote from: luissantos84 on July 24, 2012, 17:29

Quote from: traveler1116 on July 24, 2012, 17:09

Quote from: tab62 on July 24, 2012, 16:13
If I go exclusive to IS will I get 12c instead of 8c on my pics? Not a bad deal! 50% increase in revenue!

It will be much higher, 600% not 50%.  46 cents is the lowest you should get at the lowest level (4 credits)($.46 per credit)(25% lowest royalty level)=46 cents.  Also your RCs will about double so many people would be at a higher level as an exclusive than you would be as an independent. (XS prices go from 1 to 4 when you go exclusive so those would quadruple).

when you turned out exclusive you got a 600% increase in your iStock earnings? I was thinking the raise should be at the 300%

Not even close there wasn't this disparity between exclusive and nonexclusive when I went exclusive.  The only difference then was the royalty %, now that has widened and files cost a lot more for exclusive relative to nonexclusives.  A lot has changed in the last year or two.

Quote from: stockmarketer on July 24, 2012, 16:22

Quote from: Wim on July 24, 2012, 16:04
From 1 or 2 a month to 1 or 2 a day? that just doesn't sound right mate, this shift is too dramatic.
From 56USD to 840USD worth of EL's in a month?

That's exactly right.  I think Lisa alluded to seeing similar dramatic changes when SS was running its campaign, or whatever was happening to drive EL sales.  I went from under $100/mo in ELs to some months around $1,000.  So it was quite a bummer when it all stopped.

I bet! never happened to me. Income and EL's are slowly rising, never such peak/downs. I have even thought about a daily limit in my case because my sales are like clockwork even though my port is growing rapidly.

Quote from: traveler1116 on July 24, 2012, 17:33

Quote from: luissantos84 on July 24, 2012, 17:29

Quote from: traveler1116 on July 24, 2012, 17:09

Quote from: tab62 on July 24, 2012, 16:13
If I go exclusive to IS will I get 12c instead of 8c on my pics? Not a bad deal! 50% increase in revenue!

It will be much higher, 600% not 50%.  46 cents is the lowest you should get at the lowest level (4 credits)($.46 per credit)(25% lowest royalty level)=46 cents.  Also your RCs will about double so many people would be at a higher level as an exclusive than you would be as an independent. (XS prices go from 1 to 4 when you go exclusive so those would quadruple).

when you turned out exclusive you got a 600% increase in your iStock earnings? I was thinking the raise should be at the 300%

Not even close there wasn't this disparity between exclusive and nonexclusive when I went exclusive.  The only difference then was the royalty %, now that has widened and files cost a lot more for exclusive relative to nonexclusives.  A lot has changed in the last year or two.

it does make sense but looking at the latest reports from many indies/exclusives doesn´t look very inspiring, I believe it was a lot easier to predict the potential exclusive income before the summer of 2010, these days is very risky.. that said there are still many exclusives doing well, thinking of the ones that never post on iStock forum or here

I can see why many folks are exclusive! Much better payout and only one set of standards to deal with instead of the 25 I deal with on a daily basis...

My sales at SS are projected to be slightly higher than July 2011. Nothing spectacular but in contrast every other agency I submit to will be down compared to last year.

Quote from: Wim on July 24, 2012, 16:04
From 1 or 2 a month to 1 or 2 a day? that just doesn't sound right mate, this shift is too dramatic.
From 56USD to 840USD worth of EL's in a month?

Sounds right to me.  I had exactly the same experience. 

Quote from: lisafx on July 24, 2012, 21:13

Quote from: Wim on July 24, 2012, 16:04
From 1 or 2 a month to 1 or 2 a day? that just doesn't sound right mate, this shift is too dramatic.
From 56USD to 840USD worth of EL's in a month?

Sounds right to me.  I had exactly the same experience. 

I long for that experience!

Quote from: wut on July 24, 2012, 10:08

Quote from: nicku on July 24, 2012, 07:12
SS is an agency that require to upload constantly in order to mantain/increase sales. is not like DT or FT

That's not the case for over a year

True, it's hard to stamp out superstition and myths like feed the beast, Monday approvals and new images get a big boost. Not any more it seems.

ps Last upload April, I'm already at BME for SS with a week to go. Just can't wait for the "good" months. 

SS sales are not bad but IS is still doing much better before and now. Same port size on both sites

Quote from: lisafx on July 24, 2012, 15:05
My sales numbers at SS are holding steady, but the income is way down.  I had been getting EL's almost every day for several months, and now hardly any ELs, so that inevitably had an effect on income.  Whatever they had been doing to promote ELs, I wish they would start doing it again

This is exactly my experience.  I had like 6 EL's last month and only 1 this month.  Income will be down a hundred bucks unless something awesome happens between now and next Tuesday (the end of the month).

I'm the same - normally 5 or 6 ELs a month and then this month is zero. Some $18 single sales though, but nothing like as good a month as previous ones.

Steve

EL's are way down for me too. But if I compare this year's RPD at SS to last year's, they are virtually identical due to the increase in OD and single image sales.

My revenue is up 40% through the first 7 months of 2012 over the first 7 months of 2011. July is always slow for me, but I'm on pace for a 30 to 40% increase over last July so I'm pretty happy.

I'm 3 DLs away from a BDE in total number of sales today. As you can imagine, that puts my outlook on SS in a pretty positive light

Just surprised myself... compared July 1 - 24, 2012 to same period in 2011.  I'm up 75% at SS.   Can't wait until sales really hit high gears in Sept-Nov!!!

Died completely for me. FT is doing much better, and IS even more. Thinking about a stop to uploading on SS.

Quote from: princigalli on July 25, 2012, 08:41
Died completely for me. FT is doing much better, and IS even more. Thinking about a stop to uploading on SS.

1. you have 336 files comparing to 1550 at iStock
2. only at SS from the end of March (4 months)

you need to continue the uploading and give it some time, of course you wouldn´t have iStock exclusive income on a few months

Indeed

Things are holding pretty steady for me but this month when lots of sites are down, shutterstock is still on the level.  They are going to contribute a higher % of my income this month than ever before (if things continue the way they are currently going).

I'm mostly eager to see what happens in the fall.  There is never a point to looking at numbers in the summer - they never look as good as they should.

Hopefully their big EL buyers are on summer vacation.  They were selling lots of EL's for me this year but none this month.  No SOD's either, so July has bee drab for me.

Quote from: stockmarketer on July 25, 2012, 05:19
Just surprised myself... compared July 1 - 24, 2012 to same period in 2011.  I'm up 75% at SS.   Can't wait until sales really hit high gears in Sept-Nov!!!

Congratulations! That is sweet growth   

Anyone know any more about the sudden drop in Enhanced License Downloads this month (assuming it is still affecting more contributors than me!)?

I plotted out my earnings from Shutterstock over the past 18 months and separated out subscriptions, on demand, EDs and single sales. I have to go back to June 2011 to find a month with zero Enhanced license downloads.



Steve