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Is Fotolia Tanking for anyone else?

Started by melking, October 11, 2012, 03:31

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grp_photo

Quote from: sharpshot on October 11, 2012, 14:33
Quote from: grp_photo on October 11, 2012, 14:21
Quote from: CD123 on October 11, 2012, 13:12
Quote from: grp_photo on October 11, 2012, 12:19
Thanks for portfolio-link, really no offense but I think you have been pretty lucky to make 800,- with a non-exclusive portfolio of this size and content at Fotolia. Hope you will get back to your old figures pretty soon!

No thing as constant luck in stock sales. With her sales I will rather say, learn from someone who clearly knows what the market wants. Think your remark is rather arrogant in the face is what clearly is superior market knowledge.

Melissa's  port differs 120% from mine. That is what makes stock so great. The spectrum is so enormously wide that there are space with thousands of different styles. Great job Melissa, hope your images will get there place back in your market industry sector soon.

PS How about a link to your port grp?
Didn't want offend anyone that is a matter of fact maybe it's a language problem I'm not a native speaker.
Dreamstime perfomance is in line what I would expect, Fotolia isn't from my knowledge I would say this the other way around too ( If I would expect more).
It's a great portfolio but it's not the only one!
An exclusive portfolio on Fotolia like this would make much much more than 800,- , but for a non-exclusive the performance was much more than I would expect that's all.
Just shows you don't know what you're talking about.  No offence :)
ok whatever

lisafx

Quote from: velocicarpo on October 11, 2012, 05:55
Stable for me, but I think Lisa has had a 90% drop last month as well.

Oh boy, another chance to complain about my FT sales ;D

Yes, I had a 91% drop in sales there over the last year.  Shocking, really, as I have continued to be active and upload. 

A very nice contributor did a search for my images on FT.  When she searched by downloads, my pictures came up near the top of the searches.  When she searched by default search (relevancy?) they were nowhere to be found.  Not sure what's going on with their default search, but it is certainly not in my favor!!

melking

Quote from: lisafx on October 11, 2012, 15:44
Quote from: velocicarpo on October 11, 2012, 05:55
Stable for me, but I think Lisa has had a 90% drop last month as well.

Oh boy, another chance to complain about my FT sales ;D

Yes, I had a 91% drop in sales there over the last year.  Shocking, really, as I have continued to be active and upload. 

A very nice contributor did a search for my images on FT.  When she searched by downloads, my pictures came up near the top of the searches.  When she searched by default search (relevancy?) they were nowhere to be found.  Not sure what's going on with their default search, but it is certainly not in my favor!!

Well Lisa looks like this might be happening to me as well....  Fotolia is Dead for me!  It was one of my best sites!  Is there anything we can do about this?

Melissa
STOCK PORTFOLIOS:  Shutterstock |
Dreamstime  | Fotolia   |  BLOG - melissaking.ca

velocicarpo

When I check see Alexa stats I see a slow decline in Traffic for them, but nothing dramatic and well in line with most of the others...so it might be a matter of their search result tweaking / best match. Looks like they are starting to mess things up the istock way (Bestmatch).

devon

I am a Emerald member.
Sales down 80%.

7 day rank from 120 down to 1600.

Fotolia is Dead for me!

Allsa

Same here, I'm a gold contributor and it's been a slow steady decline in monthly earnings for me, too. At one time my ranking was in the 100 - 200 range. Now I'm at 1600. Depressing.

JPSDK

Quote from: devon on October 11, 2012, 17:44
I am a Emerald member.
Sales down 80%.

7 day rank from 120 down to 1600.

Fotolia is Dead for me!

Maybe we have something here. Im a small fish but my rank has gone up from ca 3000 to 2000, or even 1200 at some weeks.

mtkang

i think grp_photo just share his view, i was expecting a portfolio that with a lot of lifestyle or business studio shots, so i am quite surprise it is a different kind of portfolio.

it is strange a lot of people want to defend their opinion and if people had different opinions then it is arrogant blah blah..it will actually just stop people from telling what they think.

basically if drop from $800 to $18 in 3 month.. it can't be normal.


Quote from: grp_photo on October 11, 2012, 14:51
Quote from: sharpshot on October 11, 2012, 14:33
Quote from: grp_photo on October 11, 2012, 14:21
Quote from: CD123 on October 11, 2012, 13:12
Quote from: grp_photo on October 11, 2012, 12:19
Thanks for portfolio-link, really no offense but I think you have been pretty lucky to make 800,- with a non-exclusive portfolio of this size and content at Fotolia. Hope you will get back to your old figures pretty soon!

No thing as constant luck in stock sales. With her sales I will rather say, learn from someone who clearly knows what the market wants. Think your remark is rather arrogant in the face is what clearly is superior market knowledge.

Melissa's  port differs 120% from mine. That is what makes stock so great. The spectrum is so enormously wide that there are space with thousands of different styles. Great job Melissa, hope your images will get there place back in your market industry sector soon.

PS How about a link to your port grp?
Didn't want offend anyone that is a matter of fact maybe it's a language problem I'm not a native speaker.
Dreamstime perfomance is in line what I would expect, Fotolia isn't from my knowledge I would say this the other way around too ( If I would expect more).
It's a great portfolio but it's not the only one!
An exclusive portfolio on Fotolia like this would make much much more than 800,- , but for a non-exclusive the performance was much more than I would expect that's all.
Just shows you don't know what you're talking about.  No offence :)
ok whatever

Poncke

To the OP, your SS link in your signature is broken.

As for FT, my sales are up, but I am a small small fish, but I am seeing a bit of an increase in sales. Only 325 photos accepted. But since my promotion to the 2nd tier, I see more 5 and 7 credit sales.

But my presence on FT is of no significance.

CD123

Quote from: mtkang on October 11, 2012, 18:14
i think grp_photo just share his view, i was expecting a portfolio that with a lot of lifestyle or business studio shots, so i am quite surprise it is a different kind of portfolio.

it is strange a lot of people want to defend their opinion and if people had different opinions then it is arrogant blah blah..it will actually just stop people from telling what they think.

basically if drop from $800 to $18 in 3 month.. it can't be normal.
There is a big difference between offering one's opinion and telling another (successful) contributor, "no insult intended", but I think your sales are pure luck. I am also not a "native English speaker" but I think in even most other languages that statement means, "ek dink jou fotos is kak en jy is net donners gelukkig". http://translate.google.com/#af/en/ek%20dink%20jou%20fotos%20is%20kak%20en%20jy%20is%20net%20donners%20gelukkig

CD123

Quote from: Poncke on October 11, 2012, 18:21
To the OP, your SS link in your signature is broken.

As for FT, my sales are up, but I am a small small fish, but I am seeing a bit of an increase in sales. Only 325 photos accepted. But since my promotion to the 2nd tier, I see more 5 and 7 credit sales.

But my presence on FT is of no significance.
Actually it is of significance, as it seems many of the small fish (unfortunately not me) are benefiting from the drought of the big players.  Looks like a more even spread to the bottom. Is there financial benefit in it for FT (selling more images of lower ranked contributors and less of the high ones)? Surely they save on commission payouts? If so, it might not be a blunder on their side, but rather a "clever" business / financial strategy.

fotografer


Poncke

Quote from: CD123 on October 11, 2012, 20:52
Quote from: Poncke on October 11, 2012, 18:21
To the OP, your SS link in your signature is broken.

As for FT, my sales are up, but I am a small small fish, but I am seeing a bit of an increase in sales. Only 325 photos accepted. But since my promotion to the 2nd tier, I see more 5 and 7 credit sales.

But my presence on FT is of no significance.
Actually it is of significance, as it seems many of the small fish (unfortunately not me) are benefiting from the drought of the big players.  Looks like a more even spread to the bottom. Is there financial benefit in it for FT (selling more images of lower ranked contributors and less of the high ones)? Surely they save on commission payouts? If so, it might not be a blunder on their side, but rather a "clever" business / financial strategy.

I see how that would work for FT but it feels bad to know that I am doing better at the expense of the big players.

lisafx

Quote from: CD123 on October 11, 2012, 20:52
Actually it is of significance, as it seems many of the small fish (unfortunately not me) are benefiting from the drought of the big players.  Looks like a more even spread to the bottom. Is there financial benefit in it for FT (selling more images of lower ranked contributors and less of the high ones)? Surely they save on commission payouts? If so, it might not be a blunder on their side, but rather a "clever" business / financial strategy.

You've summed it up very well.  I like the quotes around "clever" because I do wonder about the long term viability of such a strategy. 

CD123

Quote from: lisafx on October 11, 2012, 21:39
You've summed it up very well.  I like the quotes around "clever" because I do wonder about the long term viability of such a strategy.
Short term cash flow strategy I will assume. No one can be so silly to think by hiding your best products (which yours must be based on sales) you are going to sustain your business (or can they?). Penny wise, pound foolish (and I am not even a native English speaker).  ;)

Pauws99

Maybe it is an evening up for the "small fry" after all no one forces customers to buy inferior products do they?

fotografer

Quote from: lisafx on October 11, 2012, 21:39
Quote from: CD123 on October 11, 2012, 20:52
Actually it is of significance, as it seems many of the small fish (unfortunately not me) are benefiting from the drought of the big players.  Looks like a more even spread to the bottom. Is there financial benefit in it for FT (selling more images of lower ranked contributors and less of the high ones)? Surely they save on commission payouts? If so, it might not be a blunder on their side, but rather a "clever" business / financial strategy.

You've summed it up very well.  I like the quotes around "clever" because I do wonder about the long term viability of such a strategy.
Lisa, haven't you improved at all since the begining of the month?  I was sort of hoping that you had then my good month might not be just random but actually   a push for emeralds.

CD123

Quote from: Pauws99 on October 11, 2012, 22:24
Maybe it is an evening up for the "small fry" after all no one forces customers to buy inferior products do they?
No, not inferior products, just new more unproven ones, belonging to lower ranked contributors. No, not inferior contributors, just newer, more unproven ones (costing the company less).

Poncke

Quote from: Pauws99 on October 11, 2012, 22:24
Maybe it is an evening up for the "small fry" after all no one forces customers to buy inferior products do they?

Woh woh, who says small ports means inferior products??

JPSDK

Ja, I was about to ask that question also...

Pauws99

"hort term cash flow strategy I will assume. No one can be so silly to think by hiding your best products (which yours must be based on sales) you are going to sustain your business (or can they?)."

CD123

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Quote from: Pauws99 on October 12, 2012, 06:52
"hort term cash flow strategy I will assume. No one can be so silly to think by hiding your best products (which yours must be based on sales) you are going to sustain your business (or can they?)."

:o and your hoint is..? If it is not their best (sellers proven by sales records) it is inferior (quality)? Did I say that?

sam100

Gold  member : 70% drop over the year :o

Patrick.

Anyka

My Fotolia sales is down 15 to 18% compared to last year, but only in August, September and October.  Before that, I still had monthly growth of about 5%.  I am Emerald.  So the theory of Emeralds being punished severely does not apply to me, unless you call 18% "severely"  (and if you do, how would you call Lisa's -90%?).  Of course, -18% does not make me happy, as Fotolia is my n°2 seller!! 
I do notice that 90% of my Fotolia sales happen during my (European) working hours, so I suppose the main % of their buyers are European, and so am I.

Pauws99

Sorry if I am misunderstanding but if you "hide" your best products than less excellent products will be nearer the front - inferior meaning less good not necessarily "rubbish."