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Started by luissantos84, July 24, 2013, 14:04

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WarrenPrice

I haven't uploaded there in a long time.  I'm now deleting what was left from my last tantrum.
One image at the time!   ::)
They do have some crappy tools.  Any idea how to delete multiple files?  Do you think I might get what is owed?
Curses.


luissantos84

I believe I have figured this one out, later today they will announce they have HALF collection at 1-3 credits, that reminds me of other agency...

imageegami

Yes, the other agency is behaving like the school yard bully and fotolia is responding with an even better value proposition.

luissantos84

Quote from: imageegami on July 24, 2013, 15:07
Yes, the other agency is behaving like the school yard bully and fotolia is responding with an even better value proposition.

sweet ain't it? BRILLIANT like you have said ;D

WarrenPrice


luissantos84

Quote from: WarrenPrice on July 24, 2013, 15:12
So the "Price War" has started?

and once again iStock leading it! started with the 15% royalties and then FT put white rank at 20% from 25%! can't wait for next announcement by iStock, they really run this all industry no doubt there

sharpshot

Its crazy how they follow istock with their price rises and commission cuts, now they follow them with a price cut.  Haven't they noticed that istock has suffered from all the changes while SS has kept things simple and is doing well?  If buyers weren't that concerned about prices during a big economic downturn, why start cutting them now?  Makes no sense to me.

6 months is a very sort time, especially seeing how badly FT sells my new images now.  I was starting to upload again and they soon came up with another reason for me to stop.

sc

Not doubting this announcement...
But has anybody else gotten that email - I haven't.

Mellimage

Quote from: sharpshot on July 24, 2013, 15:21
Its crazy how they follow istock with their price rises and commission cuts, now they follow them with a price cut.  Haven't they noticed that istock has suffered from all the changes while SS has kept things simple and is doing well?  If buyers weren't that concerned about prices during a big economic downturn, why start cutting them now?  Makes no sense to me.


precisely my thoughts!

Mellimage

#34
Quote from: SC on July 24, 2013, 15:24
Not doubting this announcement...
But has anybody else gotten that email - I haven't.

No, but i just discovered that i was unsubscribed to the newsletter (even though i remember subscribing to it.)

sc

Quote from: Mellimage on July 24, 2013, 15:25
Quote from: SC on July 24, 2013, 15:24
Not doubting this announcement...
But has anybody else gotten that email - I haven't.
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No, but i just discovered that i was unsubscribed to the newsletter (even though i remember subscribing to it.)

I am subscribed - not something that should come from a newsletter. Changes like this should be sent to everyone via email as well.

luissantos84

Quote from: sharpshot on July 24, 2013, 15:21
Its crazy how they follow istock with their price rises and commission cuts, now they follow them with a price cut.  Haven't they noticed that istock has suffered from all the changes while SS has kept things simple and is doing well?  If buyers weren't that concerned about prices during a big economic downturn, why start cutting them now?  Makes no sense to me.

6 months is a very sort time, especially seeing how badly FT sells my new images now.  I was starting to upload again and they soon came up with another reason for me to stop.

lets say that most agencies are the worst strategists that any business has ever seen, they don't seem to learn with other mistakes and even worst they keep on doing more very prejudicial stuff

this constant change in royalties/pricing is just hurting them and giving advantage to other (SS) that maintain their contributors happy making them submit fresh content every single day and doing that they are building their business very successfully with plenty of satisfied clients and many coming from the other agencies

cthoman

I'm going to delete all my images... oh wait, I already did that. It's very kind of Fotolia to reaffirm I made the right decision.
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stokfoto

Wasn't it FT  saying if we sell our files elsewhere (certain percentage) cheaper than their price,than they would down rank us or suspend (if i recall correctly) what if that unsold files performing better on other places, that might drive customers for cheaper options in the end it will be us who will be suffering from loss of money.(and them too)
I agree at least they need to raise the prices automatically,if not giving us the choice to opt out.and 6month period is far too short, I think DT has a better policy on that with two years.

dirkr


Mellimage

#41
Quote from: SC on July 24, 2013, 15:29
Quote from: Mellimage on July 24, 2013, 15:25
Quote from: SC on July 24, 2013, 15:24
Not doubting this announcement...
But has anybody else gotten that email - I haven't.
[/quote

No, but i just discovered that i was unsubscribed to the newsletter (even though i remember subscribing to it.)

I am subscribed - not something that should come from a newsletter. Changes like this should be sent to everyone via email as well.
Of course it should, because it is a major change in the relationship between agent and contributor. But, just like with many things, SHOULD does not always mean it IS done.  And at FT it appears that what SHOULD be done is often miles away from what IS done.

picture5469

I'm so glad I set up my symbiostock site.

BaldricksTrousers

Quote from: luissantos84 on July 24, 2013, 15:15
Quote from: WarrenPrice on July 24, 2013, 15:12
So the "Price War" has started?

and once again iStock leading it! started with the 15% royalties and then FT put white rank at 20% from 25%! can't wait for next announcement by iStock, they really run this all industry no doubt there

Yeah, but an iS 15% is actually 15%, whereas a Fotolia 20% is some notional value that might be 12% due to the fact that they refuse to recognise that there is a relationship between the cash value of money that they receive and the value of the money they pay out.

luissantos84

Quote from: BaldricksTrousers on July 24, 2013, 15:42
Quote from: luissantos84 on July 24, 2013, 15:15
Quote from: WarrenPrice on July 24, 2013, 15:12
So the "Price War" has started?

and once again iStock leading it! started with the 15% royalties and then FT put white rank at 20% from 25%! can't wait for next announcement by iStock, they really run this all industry no doubt there

Yeah, but an iS 15% is actually 15%, whereas a Fotolia 20% is some notional value that might be 12% due to the fact that they refuse to recognise that there is a relationship between the cash value of money that they receive and the value of the money they pay out.

yep just another BRILLIANT thing from FT, adding to that my US account instead of EUR ::)

pancaketom

Quote from: stokfoto on July 24, 2013, 15:36
Wasn't it FT  saying if we sell our files elsewhere (certain percentage) cheaper than their price,than they would down rank us or suspend (if i recall correctly) what if that unsold files performing better on other places, that might drive customers for cheaper options in the end it will be us who will be suffering from loss of money.(and them too)
I agree at least they need to raise the prices automatically,if not giving us the choice to opt out.and 6month period is far too short, I think DT has a better policy on that with two years.

Actually DT drops images with no sales in 6 months down to level 0, but at least if there is a sale they won't drop and if there is a sale of a level 0 image it moves up.

This is a very poor move for contributors on FT's part.
We get it ... -snip- ... we are lazy, incompetent, greedy or uncaring. Rebecca Rockafellar for Istock HQ

tickstock

#46
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Just my opinion.

picture5469

I think we need another deactivation day!

Ploink

Quote from: BaldricksTrousers on July 24, 2013, 15:42
Yeah, but an iS 15% is actually 15%, whereas a Fotolia 20% is some notional value that might be 12% due to the fact that they refuse to recognise that there is a relationship between the cash value of money that they receive and the value of the money they pay out.

Apropos of nothing: How did you go about deleting your account at Fotolia? Did you just delete the photos or did you send them an e-mail to delete it completely?

picture5469

I would always tell them the reason why.