As an Australian, I hate to have to admit that an Australian site is not playing fair.

Last night I had a huge fight with the organisation on a number of issues - including manipulation of a forum posting - and have cancelled my account.

Wow, that is dreadful.  I uploaded some there but with only 1 sale after several months I gave up on them.  Have you tried buying from other members you know to see if they record the sales?  That would catch them out.

This is really bad news... I know people who are selling well there, but the no watermark policy was still keeping out of the site.  Now this...  It's a shame.

Have you contacted management?

Regards,
Adelaide

I am a member at RB and have had a few sales- not many, so I wasn't too worried about that.

However, if this is the case, it certainly is to be deplored!!

The whole process is a bit dodgy for those who are used the functionality of IS, SS, and DT.

Like, you have no idea when a file is sold until they post something to tell you.

Never mind, I will use all my files for another site. I worked really hard and built up 350 graphics files.

My be the market already reached the mircosites saturation point?  Look, even StockXpert and SV are not producing ! FT somehow got accelerated and may be this is eating away the morsels that are still left.

Last night I had a huge fight with the organisation on a number of issues - including manipulation of a forum posting - and have cancelled my account.


what did they say about it?

question is are you talking enough money to get lawyers involved?

(or perhaps anonymous to the ato and mention dodgy dealings, an audit would at least p*ss them off

They have a habit of ignoring any correspondence.

I posted here just to warn others who have been helpful to me on microstock so they do not get caught.

I believe in what goes around comes around.

I think it's not only Red Bubble, others microstock sites can be dishonest too. We cannot check the numbers. Only Fotolia give download detail. It's risky to upload to all these slow earners. My portfolio
is at 16 sites, but 80% of my income comes from IS and SS. Why ?

Quote from: rene on February 11, 2008, 11:34
I think it's not only Red Bubble, others microstock sites can be dishonest too. We cannot check the numbers. Only Fotolia give download detail. It's risky to upload to all these slow earners. My portfolio
is at 16 sites, but 80% of my income comes from IS and SS. Why ?

well it would be pretty easy to check by downloading someone else's iamge and seeing if they get paid for it.

If a site is being dishonest I think they would be shut down pretty fast.

oopss...sounds really bad and fishy....i uploaded a few things but have not sold anything there.....guess another one of those sites....sigh......

If that is true about "Red Bubble", i think everybody that uses the site should know and  remove every image
If a site is dishonest they should be put out of business A.S.P.

Is there any more proof ?

I had something happen about two weeks ago that may or may not be related.

My sales list on the site says that two cards were sold on January 31, but I only received an e-mail about one of the sales.  I didn't think enough of it at the time to contact support, but the OP has me thinking I should probably check with them.

If what you said was true, why don't you report RedBubble to Australian police?

Sounds like you can almost prove fraud.

I have an account on Red Bubble, I had no sales, the uploading/ key wording is awful over there, I read this thread = I had an account at Red Bubble (freshly deleted) Thanks for posting it! SY

I was interested when I heard about Red Bubble, but was wary because of their lack of watermarking.

I joined, then e-mailed them about it. This was the reply I received:

I appreciate your concern and we have looked at this a lot. Large watermarks (which we have tried) seriously impact sales.

In addition any image you can get from RedBubble is far less in quality than you could scan from a magazine (or take a shot of in a gallery). On balance we have to err on the side of showing images which are attractive and people are likely to buy while minimizing the chances of having them stolen by being compressed. You could only print a very small photo of the images at that resolution.

To say that watermarks affect sales is rubbish. And the scan argument is a red herring. I decided to let my membership remain dormant.

For those that are interested, i did report this to the Police. The answer from the police was: "what do you want us to do about it".

They basically said it was a commercial matter that should be dealt with by solicitors, not a criminal matter for the police.

That's enough for me . Just cancelled my account and thaks for takig the time to tell us of yr experiecne.

Litifeta, if they just missed one or two sales, I'd say it would be a commercial matter or even an innocent mistake. But if the situation repeats, it will warrant police investigation.

There should also be a government department dealing with business fraud and business fairness. You can also contact the tax authorities to see if they will audit the business.

Quote from: litifeta on February 11, 2008, 22:32
For those that are interested, i did report this to the Police. The answer from the police was: "what do you want us to do about it".

They basically said it was a commercial matter that should be dealt with by solicitors, not a criminal matter for the police.

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David, You were removed from Red Bubble because you were stalking and harassing another member, so lets stop all this hot air shall we?

Quote from: V for Vendetta on February 12, 2008, 19:35
David, You were removed from Red Bubble because you were stalking and harassing another member, so lets stop all this hot air shall we?

Who's David?

He knows who he is. That's the only thing of relevance.

Quote from: V for Vendetta on February 12, 2008, 20:04
He knows who he is. That's the only thing of relevance.

so are you saying this thread is really a disgruntled, unwarranted slur? After this started, I went and combed the RB forums in search of anything similar and only came up with people complaining that there is no "tally" feature on the sales.

if anyone has any "proof" that this is going on, please pony up...

Quote from: V for Vendetta on February 12, 2008, 20:04
He knows who he is. That's the only thing of relevance.

Pardon me and who are you? A user name that translate to "revenge" and two posts doesn't give you to much credibility in my eyes. Either you are a troll that has nothing to do with red bubble and/ or microstock in general and just enjoys trolling or you are a really a supporter of red bubble then your behaviour really sheds a bad light on them. SY