My current earnings at DT are not even 25% of what I made in 2009. All the credits that they sell for now are credits from 2010.  For example, one of my last sold images was (16 credits - 2010) level 5, $7.55, medium-size. I don't understand how they can still sell for credits from 2010. If it's not a sale from credits from 2010, it's a subscription - $0.35.
I've been with DT from September 2006, and I think they are putting us down more and more every year. I don't think I will stay with them for much longer.
How about you?

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The credits weren't purchased in 2010.  That's just the last time DT changed their credit offerings.  They list purchases in old (up to 2006) credits, 2007 credits, 2008 credits, and 2010 credits.  Any credits anyone buys now are 2010 credits, meaning they have the same purchasing power as credits offered starting in 2010.

As for my revenues, 2009 was my high point at DT.  Last year was down 30% vs. 2009.  Not as bad as you, but not great.

Okay, DT Sucks?

So, when something sucks in life what should we do?

a. accept it
b. reject it

If you feel you are 'undervalued' that 'b' would be the way to - we all know things aren't going to change for the better - mostly likely those .35 commissions will go even lower in the near future.

 How about

c. set up your own (Symbiostock) site? 

Quote from: Kone on September 09, 2013, 03:32
I've been with DT from September 2006, and I think they are putting us down more and more every year. I don't think I will stay with them for much longer.
How about you?

My experience seems to be the opposite - they are my best agency, and growing in sales!  So no plans to leave here

RPD is good, which is why I continue on.

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I prefer the bad Shutterstock RPD with hundred of downloads every month to the excellent Dreamstime one with two downloads a month

My RPD at DT is about $1.25.

My own (SymbioStock) site has outperformed DT over the past couple months, and my RPD there is over $7.00.

I haven't submitted to DT in months, but I'll keep my files up and take a payout every other month or so.

Quote from: tab62 on September 09, 2013, 04:02
Okay, DT Sucks?

So, when something sucks in life what should we do?

a. accept it
b. reject it

If you feel you are 'undervalued' that 'b' would be the way to - we all know things aren't going to change for the better - mostly likely those .35 commissions will go even lower in the near future.

Exactly! That's why upload to DT only when I have nothing smarter to do.

Quote from: Beppe Grillo on September 09, 2013, 13:06
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I prefer the bad Shutterstock RPD with hundred of downloads every month to the excellent Dreamstime one with two downloads a month

Beppe, You are my man 

Quote from: Beppe Grillo on September 09, 2013, 13:06
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I prefer the bad Shutterstock RPD with hundred of downloads every month to the excellent Dreamstime one with two downloads a month

Took the words right out of my mouth

Quote from: Beppe Grillo on September 09, 2013, 13:06
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I prefer the bad Shutterstock RPD with hundred of downloads every month to the excellent Dreamstime one with two downloads a month

My earnings have actually been fairly comparable the last few months between the two.

Quote from: cthoman on September 09, 2013, 18:56

My earnings have actually been fairly comparable the last few months between the two.

I think it's fair to say that is very unusual.

I started contributing to DT in December of 2010. My monthly revenue at Shutterstock exceeds my total income at DT since I began.

Quote from: daveh900 on September 09, 2013, 19:07

Quote from: cthoman on September 09, 2013, 18:56

My earnings have actually been fairly comparable the last few months between the two.

I think it's fair to say that is very unusual.

I started contributing to DT in December of 2010. My monthly revenue at Shutterstock exceeds my total income at DT since I began.

I haven't uploaded to either in a long time. DT has stayed pretty consistent and SS has been declining for a while.

Frankly, I don't believe anyone is getting 100 DLs on SS and 2 on DT with the same portfolio.  Probably 20 with at least twice the RPD which still puts them miles behind SS.  However DLs per image probably in the same ballpark as FT, 123 and (even IS after recent innovations) and these last three have SS RPD without the volumes, not to mention they have bent contributors over again and again in recent times. 

Reason to be negative compared to SS but dropping them and submitting to those other three makes no sense.

Quote from: heywoody on September 09, 2013, 21:35
Frankly, I don't believe anyone is getting 100 DLs on SS and 2 on DT with the same portfolio.  Probably 20 with at least twice the RPD which still puts them miles behind SS.  However DLs per image probably in the same ballpark as FT, 123 and (even IS after recent innovations) and these last three have SS RPD without the volumes, not to mention they have bent contributors over again and again in recent times. 

Reason to be negative compared to SS but dropping them and submitting to those other three makes no sense.

I do.

Quote from: Megastock on September 09, 2013, 06:16

Quote from: Kone on September 09, 2013, 03:32
I've been with DT from September 2006, and I think they are putting us down more and more every year. I don't think I will stay with them for much longer.
How about you?

My experience seems to be the opposite - they are my best agency, and growing in sales!  So no plans to leave here

Quote from: cthoman on September 09, 2013, 20:15

Quote from: daveh900 on September 09, 2013, 19:07

Quote from: cthoman on September 09, 2013, 18:56

My earnings have actually been fairly comparable the last few months between the two.

I think it's fair to say that is very unusual.

I started contributing to DT in December of 2010. My monthly revenue at Shutterstock exceeds my total income at DT since I began.

I haven't uploaded to either in a long time. DT has stayed pretty consistent and SS has been declining for a while.

My earnings on DT have exceeded my SS earnings since June of this year.  Last month by 28%

Quote from: gbalex on September 09, 2013, 22:10

Quote from: Megastock on September 09, 2013, 06:16

Quote from: Kone on September 09, 2013, 03:32
I've been with DT from September 2006, and I think they are putting us down more and more every year. I don't think I will stay with them for much longer.
How about you?

My experience seems to be the opposite - they are my best agency, and growing in sales!  So no plans to leave here

Quote from: cthoman on September 09, 2013, 20:15

Quote from: daveh900 on September 09, 2013, 19:07

Quote from: cthoman on September 09, 2013, 18:56

My earnings have actually been fairly comparable the last few months between the two.

I think it's fair to say that is very unusual.

I started contributing to DT in December of 2010. My monthly revenue at Shutterstock exceeds my total income at DT since I began.

I haven't uploaded to either in a long time. DT has stayed pretty consistent and SS has been declining for a while.

My earnings on DT have exceeded my SS earnings since June of this year.  Last month by 28%

its you and Megastock, don't think there are more

I just had a nice refund of $7.20 on an image bought the other day.  Not happy about it as I though the credit sales I got were giving me a hope of a turn around.

How silly of me to think that 

Quote from: WarrenPrice on September 09, 2013, 22:01

Quote from: heywoody on September 09, 2013, 21:35
Frankly, I don't believe anyone is getting 100 DLs on SS and 2 on DT with the same portfolio.  Probably 20 with at least twice the RPD which still puts them miles behind SS.  However DLs per image probably in the same ballpark as FT, 123 and (even IS after recent innovations) and these last three have SS RPD without the volumes, not to mention they have bent contributors over again and again in recent times. 

Reason to be negative compared to SS but dropping them and submitting to those other three makes no sense.

I do.

Me too. And the two DT downloads will likely be subs, too.

Quote from: MarcvsTvllivs on September 09, 2013, 22:39

Quote from: WarrenPrice on September 09, 2013, 22:01

Quote from: heywoody on September 09, 2013, 21:35
Frankly, I don't believe anyone is getting 100 DLs on SS and 2 on DT with the same portfolio.  Probably 20 with at least twice the RPD which still puts them miles behind SS.  However DLs per image probably in the same ballpark as FT, 123 and (even IS after recent innovations) and these last three have SS RPD without the volumes, not to mention they have bent contributors over again and again in recent times. 

Reason to be negative compared to SS but dropping them and submitting to those other three makes no sense.

I do.

Me too. And the two DT downloads will likely be subs, too.

Wow 

DT has been beating SS for me last few months by about 13% but I have more than twice as many files on DT.

I agree with Pilens.
You build your own Symbiostock site. It's simple and has high sales potential.

Quote from: DF_Studios on September 10, 2013, 00:40
DT has been beating SS for me last few months by about 13% but I have more than twice as many files on DT.

2.7 times more and you have 356 exclusives files

RPD is such a meaningless figure. Shutterstock pays me 10-15 times what I make on Dreamstime every month. The total amount that hits my Paypal is all that matters.

I still contribute to Dreamstime. It doesn't take that much more time and $100 to $150 a month is better than a poke in the eye.