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Quote from: fritz on October 09, 2013, 01:14
I can't complain. September was very good at SS but the real deal last month was with an agency when I sold  files(7000) for 15k. You guess which agency is it! It isn't on the list.

really? have you accepted the offer? where are you going to spend it?

Yes, I did and am not going anywhere, maybe Portugal been there couple years ago but still love to go there again.

interesting and quite brave as well, I wonder if you aren't afraid of potential issues from agencies due to that, regarding Portugal it is indeed a beautiful country with stunning weather, food and people

No, I'm not afraid but will see how the things are going. By the way Portugal is really beautiful weather, food, people but the ocean is not for swimming windy wild.....  .

it depends where you go but yes there are quite a few windy beaches, many surfers etc most near Lisbon

if you are looking for "calm" beaches you need to check the south, I am talking about a few small islands in the Algarve region, been in Tavira island a few years ago and it is as good as Maldives or Caribbean (soft sand and warm water)

Thanks for the info Luis! I'll check.

Quote from: fritz on October 09, 2013, 01:14
I can't complain. September was very good at SS but the real deal last month was with an agency when I sold  files(7000) for 15k. You guess which agency is it! It isn't on the list.

I remember getting some heat in that thread when I told you to take the money. So you sold out in the end anyways? The offer of a bit of money does weird things to people, dont it? LOL

You know there is an agency that pays 50 dollar per image to hand over copyrights? Thats 350k. Cheers.

15k does seem very cheap for 7,000 images.  Shouldn't a portfolio that size bring in much more than 15k a year?

I did't sell the exclusive rights and i didn't hand over copyrights, it's just non-exclusive right to sell them to their users for  $15,000.00 in exchange for the perpetual rights to sell 7,000 graphics. I will continue to sell them on regular sites as before. I see this as extra profit.

That's good, you had me worried there for a moment

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Quote from: Ron on October 09, 2013, 05:47
You know there is an agency that pays 50 dollar per image to hand over copyrights? Thats 350k. Cheers.

can you tell us which agency? I would sell it yesterday

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Quote from: Ron on October 09, 2013, 05:47
You know there is an agency that pays 50 dollar per image to hand over copyrights? Thats 350k. Cheers.

can you tell us which agency? I would sell it yesterday

http://cavanimages.com/

interesting, thanks for sharing, just dropped them an email!

My sales with SS has slowed since I decided to concentrate on other areas. I have not uploaded to them in a long while. The sales have not stopped though. I got a nice SOD for $68 2 days ago. Almost disbelief when your used to all the normal license amounts.

October is going good compared with my previous months. I hope this continues in nov and dec too. 

Got close to a BDE on Tuesday. Overall the month is looking good and that's with minimal new uploads over the last few weeks.

I'm having the worst october since years. Sales have dropped about 40% compared to october 2012.

Still slow for me.  Only one small SOD this month.  No El's.  I'm selling a lot of old images but hardly anything I've uploaded in the last 12 months.  Used to get lots of downloads of new images but they seem to mostly vanish now.  The images that used to be my best sellers aren't on my first page now.  Haven't sold a video clip in the last 10 weeks.

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Yesterday typical - a reasonable number of downloads early in the morning - but NOTHING after that. Nothing yet this morning either. Weird, even for a weekend when things usually trundle along, albeit slowly.

I saw the same thing, saturday morning I had more Dls then I would expect, and then for 24 hours nothing.

+3 Nothing yesterday, last night or this morning.

With essentially no communication from SS (nothing new), we are left to guess why we are experiencing these strange sales patterns.

1. They are making more changes to the site and they do not respect contributors enough to let us know our images have been left out of the sales loop.
2. There is something seriously wrong with the site  and they do not respect contributors enough to let us know our images have been left out of the sales loop.
3. There is something seriously wrong, they have no problem with contributors losing money on their hard work and investments and they never plan on addressing these issues.
4. They have made all of these changes on purpose and there are no bugs therefore some contributors can expect regular periods of time where they can expect to receive no sales. Some contributors report daily poor sales during US business hours.

These bugs happen far too often at SS.  I used to respect them as a company, but this has been going on for far too long with no resolution.

There doesn't seem to be any special boost for new images any more, so the new stuff starts really getting sales a lot later if it's good enough - maybe weeks or even a month or so... but when they do, they seem to keep selling forever. I prefer this to having a bump after uploading, than 50% of it sinking into oblivion. This is more reliable. I take it asa sign of more mature business. Besides that I notice signs of having a cycle, with result preference: older - newer - newest - older... etc. But that's justa suspicion nad the effect is not overwhelming, os the 'fav' files keep selling everyday.

I don't really see bugs. What I find kinda disappointing is how sales have very little connection with aesthetic value.

Interesting link Ron. And for a short review, they buy RAW images, do all the work including editing and keywording. They own your image. "Cavan Images will be the sole copyright holder of any image you decide to sell to us. This means that you will not be able to license or resell these images, or similar images,"

And they own the shoot and similar shots. Kind of like being personally owned for $50?

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Quote from: luissantos84 on October 09, 2013, 11:45

Quote from: Ron on October 09, 2013, 05:47
You know there is an agency that pays 50 dollar per image to hand over copyrights? Thats 350k. Cheers.

can you tell us which agency? I would sell it yesterday

http://cavanimages.com/

This month is slowing down for me. Sad, because it's the holiday season ans I was expecting a nice bump this month.

Quote from: Uncle Pete on October 23, 2013, 12:04
Interesting link Ron. And for a short review, they buy RAW images, do all the work including editing and keywording. They own your image. "Cavan Images will be the sole copyright holder of any image you decide to sell to us. This means that you will not be able to license or resell these images, or similar images,"

And they own the shoot and similar shots. Kind of like being personally owned for $50?

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Quote from: luissantos84 on October 09, 2013, 11:45

Quote from: Ron on October 09, 2013, 05:47
You know there is an agency that pays 50 dollar per image to hand over copyrights? Thats 350k. Cheers.

can you tell us which agency? I would sell it yesterday

http://cavanimages.com/

Horribly bad deal, unless you dump some leftovers on them.

It depends on how many images make you 50 dollar in their life span. I can see this being an interesting deal for some. But you need to pass a portfolio review. I was rejected when I tried to see what it was about last year.

Quote from: topol on October 23, 2013, 11:58
I don't really see bugs. What I find kinda disappointing is how sales have very little connection with aesthetic value.

Usefulness as stock has very little connection with what would go on people's walls or get into Salons.
Buyers may only want part of an image to composite with other elements, or an image could be chosen because it has copyspace where they need it, or the 'directionality' of the image fits, or the colour fits in with their layout.

Quote from: sharpshot on October 23, 2013, 11:13
Still slow for me.  Only one small SOD this month.  No El's.  I'm selling a lot of old images but hardly anything I've uploaded in the last 12 months.  Used to get lots of downloads of new images but they seem to mostly vanish now.  The images that used to be my best sellers aren't on my first page now.  Haven't sold a video clip in the last 10 weeks.

This is exactly my experience, less video.

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Quote from: topol on October 23, 2013, 11:58
I don't really see bugs. What I find kinda disappointing is how sales have very little connection with aesthetic value.

Usefulness as stock has very little connection with what would go on people's walls or get into Salons.
Buyers may only want part of an image to composite with other elements, or an image could be chosen because it has copyspace where they need it, or the 'directionality' of the image fits, or the colour fits in with their layout.

I know, and that just shows we are the point where 'the crowd' either has bad taste or no taste. If they still had any culture, when someone produces any visual output, it's supposed to be regarded useless unless aesthetics is among the highest concern.

Disappointing with strange sales patterns.  My sales have always been consistent with clear seasonal sales patterns.

My old images have been selling in cycles with the exception of images with 2000 to 9000 sales that have been permanently and purposely banished to the nether regions of the search.  I gave up searching for them after 50 pages. It is sad to watch inferior older images receiving sales over those much better images.

It does seem like I have cycles of good sales with both new and old images and some good months, however the good periods are canceled out by the very bad cycles where I receive very poor sales and overall I am down 40% over last year.

I often find myself wondering if my port is corrupted or unplugged during the times where I have very poor sales. The sales patterns are so bizarre with lots of bugs, server errors and port errors showing up.

This October is bad. And the video sales are way down for me as well.

October 2012 was a big bump in sales.