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Losing Patience Fast

Started by DanP68, February 20, 2008, 08:45

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sharpshot

I spend about 5 minutes a week making comments, it isn't a big deal.

gbcimages

Quote from: sharpshot on February 26, 2008, 18:08
I spend about 5 minutes a week making comments, it isn't a big deal.

Right, It doesn't take long to make a couple of comments, you don't have to drag it out.

epixx

Quote from: sharpshot on February 26, 2008, 18:08
I spend about 5 minutes a week making comments, it isn't a big deal.

It's not a big deal, but it's also completely pointless.

DanP68

Quote from: epixx on February 27, 2008, 02:01
Quote from: sharpshot on February 26, 2008, 18:08
I spend about 5 minutes a week making comments, it isn't a big deal.

It's not a big deal, but it's also completely pointless.


"Exacta-mundo," says The Fonz.

Fred

Quote from: epixx on February 27, 2008, 02:01
Quote from: sharpshot on February 26, 2008, 18:08
I spend about 5 minutes a week making comments, it isn't a big deal.

It's not a big deal, but it's also completely pointless.

This is very true!! As I have pointed out before, the idea that images need comments to be sold on LO is not supported by any evidence I've seen.  I have checked the most recent downloads list on several occasions - just now for instance - and there have never been more than 2 of the 25 with comments - less than 10%. 

I have been fairly active in the forums and commenting there and still have only 12 downloads - only 1 in the last 4 months!  That doesn't prove anything - I only recently went over 200 in my portfolio - however,  a variety of images I have there that sell - some quite well - on IS, SS, DT, FT, BS do not even get looked at on LO.

I started uploading again recently in hopes the site upgrade would improve things but it seems to be taking a long time to get it to work right.  Currently it takes forever for new images to get indexed into the search. 

Hope for LO is fading fast!!   fred

sharpshot

Having an image on the front page from someone leaving a comment gets views for the rest of the images in your portfolio.  People click on the image with a comment but might then browse your portfolio and find something to buy.

I do think this works.  My sales seem to increase when I get a few comments on my images.

null

What if... you signed up under a different account, uploaded a couple of low-sale disposable shots... and then started commenting on your main own images, just in time to get them on the front page when the buyers on the East and West Coast come in the office and had their first coffee?  ::)

Wicked, but feasable.

I can see the corporate buying pattern over time of day very well on ShutterStock where you have many downloads per day. On the West Coast are the most voracious buyers, and in Europe (CET) just 10%.

Pixart

Quote from: Fred on February 27, 2008, 05:15

This is very true!! As I have pointed out before, the idea that images need comments to be sold on LO is not supported by any evidence I've seen. 

That's funny because the only time I've had sales is when I've played the ratings game.    Although, not necessarily the photos with new comments. 

I just wish they would get the keyword indexing working. 

Fred

Quote from: Pixart on February 27, 2008, 18:51
Quote from: Fred on February 27, 2008, 05:15

This is very true!! As I have pointed out before, the idea that images need comments to be sold on LO is not supported by any evidence I've seen. 

That's funny because the only time I've had sales is when I've played the ratings game.    Although, not necessarily the photos with new comments. 

I just wish they would get the keyword indexing working. 

The site is a joke - a carnival that is run like a circus!!

c h e e r s
fred

Waldo4

Quote from: FlemishDreams on February 27, 2008, 08:48I can see the corporate buying pattern over time of day very well on ShutterStock where you have many downloads per day. On the West Coast are the most voracious buyers, and in Europe (CET) just 10%.

Though my DLs everywhere are absolutely pitiful (I still have no photos showing at IS or SS, though I'm approved at both), almost every DL has been at the strangest times.  I expect to get them while at work during the day (ET), but this is not the case, I have gotten most of mine late night (after 12pm, before 6am) or on the weekends, when I least expect to get them.

madelaide

#35
I thought comments worked for the image that received a comment, not for the person commenting it.

I even think someone explained that comments should include main keywords, because having them many times in that page would make them come up better in search engines (I don't think it was meant in LO search tool). 

Regards,
Adelaide

Cooper

#36
Is the site down?  I can't get in over there - haven't been able to for a while....

(sorry, just read the other thread on this.  Oh well)

UncleGene

May be we can start a new thread similar to an old one for StockXpert (with LO-specific modifications)? E.g. choose what you like most from the _least_ popular part of portfolio of the person above?

(without starting a thread, thus not asking for comments for mine, Adelaide, my 2 cents to you  ;) )

andresr

Lucky Oliver is only 0.30% of my income, not even 1%,
I get more sales at SS than views at LO and what I make on LO in a month I make at SS in about 3 hours, well at least I get a payout every month so pocket money doesn't hurt, hopefully they will pick up because the site is quite nice.

DanP68

AndresR sums is up completely.

I kept track.  Each day this week, I had more earnings from Shutterstock before 2 pm EST than I have had in 6 total months at Lucky Oliver.  Mitch can spin that stat however he wants to.  But as far as I am concerned, Lucky Oliver is no longer worth uploading to. 

From this point forth, until Lucky Oliver makes me as much in a month as Shutterstock does in a day, there will be no more uploads.  I'm through playing comment games.

Tim Markley

Why should i have to comment on someone else's photo to sell my own stuff. I really dislike the sites that requre user to flatter each other. Let the photo sell itself.