Hello everybody,

I am pretty new to the concept of Symbiostock and I find it very attractive. I have looked at some website on Symbiostock and have seen only Rf licensing. Do you know if anyone does RM on Symbiostock ?

Thank you for the tips

The Premium/Professional Plug-in allows for a variety of different licences

I can't find info, how much does the "premium" cost? Is it one plugin for everything or just for RM licencing?
Tx.

I was going to give you a link but apparently Leo has symbiostock.com down for some updates.

It's $75 (I think - that's what it was when I bought it) and it has the batch editor, multiple license times, an improved search that handles multiple word phrases (the base theme uses WordPress search) and I think the Twitter automated tweets (which i don't use and I'm not sure if they're in the premium plugin)

Hi guys.

Loosely speaking, you can make rights managed licenses -- upon sale product is taken down automatically. But "managing the rights" with all of it's details is for the person selling -- overall I'd suggest uploading an image and linking it to a professional RM agency, otherwise you take on much responsibility.

The site is down because I'm finally upgrading it when its back up I'll post it.

Unless it's a worldwide exclusive use, you don't have to take a photo down after an RM license, and even then it will be time limited, so you'd restrict the use until it's available again. You do need to keep careful track of how it's used so that there are no conflicts. I often license RM photos on my own, and to date all the licensees have requested a non-exclusive right to use photos in whatever country they are in or worldwide, during a fixed period of time, from one month to 18 months, at a set size, for a certain use, calendar, magazine, newspaper, sometimes limited/ sometimes unlimited print run. I have a calculator built into my site, which is hosted by Photoshelter and I have also negotiated pricing directly with clients.

To be clear, I don't have a symbio site (am thinking about it for micro RF). However, from the experience I do have, it's been easy to license RM images on my own, but I can see that if the volume grew substantially and you didn't stay on top of it, you would potentially need some sort of software in place to prevent duplicate licenses in the event of a request for exclusivity.

I would imagine, however, that when a licensee is seeking an exclusive license, they are going to check first to be sure it's available and negotiate with you directly.

I have RM many of the same images with agencies in Germany and Wales as well as with Alamy, all on a non-exclusive basis, so they need to clear exclusive deals with me before agreeing to them. Bottom line, I don't think it's a click and download kind of thing. At least not in my experience. Sending them to Alamy or another site to license RM kind of defeats the purpose of having your own site so an agency isn't cutting into your profit.

You can always note that for an exclusive license they need to contact you directly.

Tx, Jo Ann

Quote from: Leo on January 27, 2014, 01:35... overall I'd suggest uploading an image and linking it to a professional RM agency, otherwise you take on much responsibility.

And so, I think I'll do that - put RM images on SyS but link it to my Alamy, sleeping well and no worries.
(if I find again the way to do that  )

Quote from: Leo on January 27, 2014, 01:35The site is down because I'm finally upgrading it when its back up I'll post it.

Should we expect big changes?

Quote from: Ariene on January 27, 2014, 08:25
Tx, Jo Ann

Quote from: Leo on January 27, 2014, 01:35... overall I'd suggest uploading an image and linking it to a professional RM agency, otherwise you take on much responsibility.

And so, I think I'll do that - put RM images on SyS but link it to my Alamy, sleeping well and no worries.
(if I find again the way to do that  )

Quote from: Leo on January 27, 2014, 01:35The site is down because I'm finally upgrading it when its back up I'll post it.

Should we expect big changes?

Yep! As they say "the shoemaker's children don't have any shoes!" After a year of developing Symbiostock, I thought I might finally bring it's community sites up to par. www.symbiostock.org/community is there. Now I just have to fix up the front page leading into it and the wiki

Quote from: wordplanet on January 27, 2014, 04:57
Unless it's a worldwide exclusive use, you don't have to take a photo down after an RM license, and even then it will be time limited, so you'd restrict the use until it's available again. You do need to keep careful track of how it's used so that there are no conflicts. I often license RM photos on my own, and to date all the licensees have requested a non-exclusive right to use photos in whatever country they are in or worldwide, during a fixed period of time, from one month to 18 months, at a set size, for a certain use, calendar, magazine, newspaper, sometimes limited/ sometimes unlimited print run. I have a calculator built into my site, which is hosted by Photoshelter and I have also negotiated pricing directly with clients.

To be clear, I don't have a symbio site (am thinking about it for micro RF). However, from the experience I do have, it's been easy to license RM images on my own, but I can see that if the volume grew substantially and you didn't stay on top of it, you would potentially need some sort of software in place to prevent duplicate licenses in the event of a request for exclusivity.

I would imagine, however, that when a licensee is seeking an exclusive license, they are going to check first to be sure it's available and negotiate with you directly.

I have RM many of the same images with agencies in Germany and Wales as well as with Alamy, all on a non-exclusive basis, so they need to clear exclusive deals with me before agreeing to them. Bottom line, I don't think it's a click and download kind of thing. At least not in my experience. Sending them to Alamy or another site to license RM kind of defeats the purpose of having your own site so an agency isn't cutting into your profit.

You can always note that for an exclusive license they need to contact you directly.

Correct!  one can easily manage and license Rm images. There are special programs for rights and everything involving Rm, not as elaborate maybe but they work fine.

Thank you all for your input and advices. It's good to hear that RM is not so difficult to manage after all.

The big question is: what is better giving up (at least) 50% of your sale + selling price chosen by the agency  +  largely unfavourable exchange rate + taxes or take full responsibilities for managing RM licenses and get 100% of your sales and control your prices ?

I agree with Wordplanet, doing it yourself, it worth atry.

Thks