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What about Panthermedia?

Started by takestock, June 04, 2008, 22:24

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takestock

I've been there a few months now and there is zero happening for me.
What's your experience?
Looks like another plug to be pulled!!

I see it has been dropped from the Up & Coming list here.

grp_photo

I did put a lot of effort in midstock-sites my personal experience is that they are suffering heavily. Midstock seems to have not much future anymore. Every Midstock-site (most are german) have fewer pics and not much better quality than the big 6 Microstocksites often they have  nearly the same pics. It's just a matter of time than Midstock will be washed away. I still have monthly sales with PM but it's about the same as two years ago with a portfolio more than thirty times bigger than two years ago - go figure! There was a healthy midstock-scene in Germany not so long ago but they lost huge market-share especially to FUtolia!
The only sure harbour currently seems to be the RM-Collections of the big two unfortunately its extremely hard to get anything accepted by them.

sharpshot

I uploaded 100 a couple of months ago and I am now getting a few sales.  It is nice to see higher prices and in euros.  Only a few rejections so far.  I am going to stick with them and upload my portfolio.

Phil

I've uploaded a heap but haven't had time to push more than a few images through the approval process thing.  so far have got 50 accepted with 16 rejections (illustrated backgrounds).  Those 50 are not spectacular but have got me 3 sales (about 60 euro) in the past 5-6 weeks.

So personally I am pretty happy so far.

rinderart


sharpshot

Quote from: rinderart on June 05, 2008, 05:52
Dump It.

Did you upload your portfolio there and give them a year before coming to that conclusion?  They take a few months to sell but from what I have seen they sell much better than mostphotos.

MikLav

I've got my first sale many months ago; and then several months later I've got a second one. Then I don't have any for several months... So I wonder are there really regular sales, and are they higher than for example bigstock or 123rf? My portfolio is very small at PM (just several tens pictures); and upload process is lengthy so I wonder if it worth the time/effort spent...

Team PantherMedia

Hello,

Quoteupload process is lengthy

MikLav, we are about to introduce a new upload system within the next 2 - 4 weeks.

;)

QuoteMy portfolio is very small at PM (just several tens pictures)

With respect to this fact it´s difficult to comment.... .

All the best,
Andy

MikLav

#8
Quote from: Team PantherMedia on June 23, 2009, 14:53

QuoteMy portfolio is very small at PM (just several tens pictures)

With respect to this fact it´s difficult to comment.... .
Of course :)
So I hope some other members who have bigger portfolios at PM could share their impressions... I have about 1000 photos that I could upload - not a huge amount but not too low - so I wonder if my efforts for uploading will be paid back in reasonable time.

And indeed thanks for the good news about new upload process !

dirkr

Quote from: MikLav on June 23, 2009, 15:39
So I hope some other members who have bigger portfolios at PM could share their impressions... I have about 1000 photos that I could upload - not a huge amount but not too low - so I wonder if my efforts for uploading will be paid back in reasonable time.

I have 776 files up on PM. Started there in April 2007.
With the same files up on the big micros I have made more in my best single month each on Istock, FT, Shutter and Dreamstime than in the total two years on PM.
My average RPI over the total time I'm with these agencies is ten times higher on FT than on PM, fifteen times higher on SS than on PM.
That about says it for me, but maybe it's just my kind of pics that doesn't sell well on PM.

Phil

I have sporadic sales, but they only have about 5% of my portfolio there so I couldnt really say in comparison to other sites.  I decided that the uploading procedure was to time intensive for the expected return and pretty much gave up on them (I have some images sitting in ftp folder which I click a few through when I'm in the mood).  personally I would be very interested to see the new upload method in a few weeks, if looks quick enough then I will upload to them

cmillc22

i have 34 images there for a test, thirty images either "ed tip" or "recomendation" and no rejection of any images

i do not even get views, a few have one view, a few have 4 views but most have no views. My portfolio has been up for four months

PixelsAway

started to submit to PM in Jan/Feb 2008
close to 500 pictures right now (~1/3 of my microstock portfolio)
6 pictures sold - getting close to my 2nd payout
pushing more pictures through submission only when I have time
Marek

Ariene

I've sent email with few questions to PM but didn't get replay.
I've sent post on their facebook profil, nothing...

Maybe here I'll find some contact...
I'd like to know if you do payout when I close my account and have under 30€? Just that one question, waiting for respond, please...

Yure

I started uploading there in May 2013.
But:
- uploading is not straightforward, quite clumsy compared to other low earners sites
- a very high rejection rate forced me to upload no more than 2 images per day, so I'll stay a life iin order to make a decent portfolio

so I stopped, after a couple of months and 32 images uploaded. Since then, I had 2 sales, 0.23 euro each.

Team PantherMedia

Hi Ariene,

yes, certainly. If you close your account your get your money irrespective of the payout threshold. If you use this link for posting messages to us, it will directly go into our ticket system and you will definitely receive an answer anytime you contact us: http://panthermedia.net/index.php?page=kontakt_ba_fc.php

@yure: Please let me know your username and I will unblock the limit. I will also record a screencast for uploading images, since our batch upload and batch editing system allows the processing of multiple images at a very fast rate. Please also hide the extended metadata features, we only need the top 5 info (rights, where to publish, model- and property release, keywords -> imported via IPTC). That is all.

Best regards,
Robert

Paulfleet

The upload process is bad. I am happy with my sales its only a handful each month with 900 files but it all adds up. I found panthermedia very helpful in sorting out the strange German tax thing. (That was very nearly a deal breaker.)

hofhoek

I used to upload some images each week (very slow submitting system) and when I wanted to get paid I got paid but had to pay more tax than when I get paid by SS and the likes. I'm living in the Netherlands, they are German. We are both in Europe, I pay my taxes here but they told me it was necessary. I don't upload anymore..

roede-orm

Quote from: hofhoek on February 25, 2014, 12:34
I used to upload some images each week (very slow submitting system) and when I wanted to get paid I got paid but had to pay more tax than when I get paid by SS and the likes. I'm living in the Netherlands, they are German. We are both in Europe, I pay my taxes here but they told me it was necessary. I don't upload anymore..

I have no explanation for it. But the taxes paid in Germany reduce of course your taxes in the Netherlands. So actually i doesn't matters.

hofhoek

It does matter. We have different tax laws and I pay here. I do not have to pay tax in the US, I don't need to pay in Germany. Very strange.

roede-orm

Some years ago I sold the house of my parents in Sweden and I had to pay taxes there, although I am German citizen and live in Germany.

Paulfleet

I'm in the UK and was unhappy with the double tax but I only had to fill out a form with proof of residency and send to the German Tax office. panthermedia helped me with the form and now I get the full amount owed me with no tax taken off. I think this maybe the same for Netherlands. You have nothing to lose sending an email to support at PM asking for assistance with the tax. :)

Team PantherMedia

@hofhoek:

I am sorry, but double tax is something we cannot change. However, you can apply for a tax exemption at the German government and you get 100% (but therefore pay the tax in your home country).  Anyway, double tax means that you do not pay taxes twice. Hence, you can deduct the 15% taxes locally. Please refer to your local tax office for more information. Regarding the tax exemption, please contact our support team and they will send you the documents and help you get the exemption. Best regards, Robert

Ariene

Thanks for the link to kontakt.
My message was sent to  [email protected]  before. Is it wrong email?

Team PantherMedia

Hi Ariene,

that is our Polish sales office's address (for customer inquiries). For contributor inquiries, please use our ticket system at the given link. 

Thank you,

Robert