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Did you apply (get accepted) to OFFSET?

Started by spike, November 03, 2014, 19:15

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SLStudios

Me too. No answer at all. Atlas tell me no if you don't want my images..... geez.
Shooting this and that from here to there

Buffalo Bill

maybe my logic is off but wouldn't Shutter tell the artist that they should apply to offset based on their already existing portfolio? For example, in my day time job if you are doing very well the upper management will tell you that you should apply for a higher position.

Photominer

It took months for me to finally get a rejection. I've been with SS since 2006.

PixelBytes

I gave no interest whatsoever in applying to Offset or Stocksy.   I already know I don't make the kinds of trendy images they seem to like.

Dook

Quote from: Buffalo Bill on November 04, 2014, 15:23
maybe my logic is off but wouldn't Shutter tell the artist that they should apply to offset based on their already existing portfolio? For example, in my day time job if you are doing very well the upper management will tell you that you should apply for a higher position.
Maybe they do  :(

ShadySue

Quote from: Buffalo Bill on November 04, 2014, 15:23
maybe my logic is off but wouldn't Shutter tell the artist that they should apply to offset based on their already existing portfolio? For example, in my day time job if you are doing very well the upper management will tell you that you should apply for a higher position.
http://www.microstockgroup.com/shutterstock-com/offset-opened-doors/msg346395/#msg346395

Mantis

I applied yesterday and was rejected today.

OM


Buffalo Bill

Quote from: Mantis on November 05, 2014, 01:26
I applied yesterday and was rejected today.

I applied today and was rejected yesterday  ;)



Rinderart

#13
Honestly...Not Interested. I search a lot. what I see is Images that would have been rejected for Lighting On SS in the past and especially Now. I don't get it. And...If there doing that well and folks who are there are doing that well, Then why don't they Look at ports that do very well and invite them?????

Lightrecorder

Quote from: Rinderart on November 05, 2014, 05:09
Honestly...Not Interested. I search a lot. what I see is Images that would have been rejected for Lighting On SS in the past and especially Now. I don't get it. And...If there doing that well and folks who are there are doing that well, Then why don't they Look at ports that do very well and invite them?????
You need to break from the microstock mind set. Preach what you practice. OFFset is not microstock, its a completely different animal, same as Stocksy. You need to get into a different mind set to shoot for those agencies. For someone who sold images  for $50k, it doesnt make sense to get worked up about microstock and OFFset et all.

LylePaddle

Quote from: Rinderart on November 05, 2014, 05:09
Honestly...Not Interested. I search a lot. what I see is Images that would have been rejected for Lighting On SS in the past and especially Now. I don't get it. And...If there doing that well and folks who are there are doing that well, Then why don't they Look at ports that do very well and invite them?????


Because the whole point of OFFSET was to be different, separate from run of the mill microstock.  If they started promoting the best or better selling microstock portfolios they would lose that flavor.    I have to chuckle when I see comments about somebody target shooting for OFFSET.  They have clearly stated they were looking for existing, working pros ie: assignment type shooters who had great outtakes.  Sound familiar?  To anyone involved in stock since the 70's, as I have been, this will ring true.  That is the very origin of stock photography.  This is how stock agencies in the 70's and early 80's approached photographers.  They sought out existing assignment pros who would be willing to market their outtakes.   This eventually morphed (mid and later 80's) to the image catalog mentality.  Where photographers would actually shoot to get image placements in the stock photo print catalogs of the day. 

So no, I would hope that OFFSET continues to be blind of true microstock.  If someone thinks they can go out and "shoot for OFFSET" they are already not what OFFSET is looking for in a photographer.   All you have to do is look at the photographers they are representing.  To a person they are almost all active shooting professionals working for clients and organzations.  They are not sitting around thinking of generic microstock concepts. 

Mantis

Quote from: Rinderart on November 05, 2014, 05:09
Honestly...Not Interested. I search a lot. what I see is Images that would have been rejected for Lighting On SS in the past and especially Now. I don't get it. And...If there doing that well and folks who are there are doing that well, Then why don't they Look at ports that do very well and invite them?????

I agree. I responded to their rejection and made similar statements. It's okay. I am busy trying other stuff.

Rinderart

Quote from: LylePaddle on November 05, 2014, 12:12
Quote from: Rinderart on November 05, 2014, 05:09
Honestly...Not Interested. I search a lot. what I see is Images that would have been rejected for Lighting On SS in the past and especially Now. I don't get it. And...If there doing that well and folks who are there are doing that well, Then why don't they Look at ports that do very well and invite them?????


Because the whole point of OFFSET was to be different, separate from run of the mill microstock.  If they started promoting the best or better selling microstock portfolios they would lose that flavor.    I have to chuckle when I see comments about somebody target shooting for OFFSET.  They have clearly stated they were looking for existing, working pros ie: assignment type shooters who had great outtakes.  Sound familiar?  To anyone involved in stock since the 70's, as I have been, this will ring true.  That is the very origin of stock photography.  This is how stock agencies in the 70's and early 80's approached photographers.  They sought out existing assignment pros who would be willing to market their outtakes.   This eventually morphed (mid and later 80's) to the image catalog mentality.  Where photographers would actually shoot to get image placements in the stock photo print catalogs of the day. 

So no, I would hope that OFFSET continues to be blind of true microstock.  If someone thinks they can go out and "shoot for OFFSET" they are already not what OFFSET is looking for in a photographer.   All you have to do is look at the photographers they are representing.  To a person they are almost all active shooting professionals working for clients and organzations.  They are not sitting around thinking of generic microstock concepts.

I do agree with a lot of what you say, But I wonder how those folks are doing?  Especially agree with your last Line. I also wonder who is curating for Offset.

Red Dove

#18
I see the virtues of both Stocksy and Offset and have made it a goal to get into one of them in 2015

It should be easy enough to get hold of some bearded hipsters and have them stand around looking at mud and trees....Flippancy aside, I see a lot of work that crosses over into reportage and "fine art"* - very reminiscent of work by Justine Kurland, Alec Soth et al and a long way removed from microstock. I like it.

* I put this in quotation because I've never  fully understood just what it constitutes and I dislike labels as a rule
"There is no particular reason to search for meaning." – William Eggelston

Uncle Pete

I'm in the same club PB. I won't waste their time, or mine, applying when I know I don't have the kind of images they are looking for.

Did you apply (get accepted) to OFFSET?

No + No

Quote from: PixelBytes on November 04, 2014, 17:53
I gave no interest whatsoever in applying to Offset or Stocksy.   I already know I don't make the kinds of trendy images they seem to like.

ruxpriencdiam

Most us piss poor peons aren't in the class of offset, besides even  some of the so called best weren't even allowed the bridge to BS!

Big Whoopee!

Quote from: Uncle Pete on November 06, 2014, 16:30
I'm in the same club PB. I won't waste their time, or mine, applying when I know I don't have the kind of images they are looking for.

Did you apply (get accepted) to OFFSET?

No + No

Quote from: PixelBytes on November 04, 2014, 17:53
I gave no interest whatsoever in applying to Offset or Stocksy.   I already know I don't make the kinds of trendy images they seem to like.

OM

Quote from: LylePaddle on November 05, 2014, 12:12
Quote from: Rinderart on November 05, 2014, 05:09
Honestly...Not Interested. I search a lot. what I see is Images that would have been rejected for Lighting On SS in the past and especially Now. I don't get it. And...If there doing that well and folks who are there are doing that well, Then why don't they Look at ports that do very well and invite them?????


Because the whole point of OFFSET was to be different, separate from run of the mill microstock.  If they started promoting the best or better selling microstock portfolios they would lose that flavor.    I have to chuckle when I see comments about somebody target shooting for OFFSET.  They have clearly stated they were looking for existing, working pros ie: assignment type shooters who had great outtakes.  Sound familiar?  To anyone involved in stock since the 70's, as I have been, this will ring true.  That is the very origin of stock photography.  This is how stock agencies in the 70's and early 80's approached photographers.  They sought out existing assignment pros who would be willing to market their outtakes.   This eventually morphed (mid and later 80's) to the image catalog mentality.  Where photographers would actually shoot to get image placements in the stock photo print catalogs of the day. 

So no, I would hope that OFFSET continues to be blind of true microstock.  If someone thinks they can go out and "shoot for OFFSET" they are already not what OFFSET is looking for in a photographer.   All you have to do is look at the photographers they are representing. To a person they are almost all active shooting professionals working for clients and organzations.  They are not sitting around thinking of generic microstock concepts.

Nailed it perfectly!

Ariene

They reply in an hour now. Just expect sugestion to join SS in back mail :P

fieldsphotos

I was contacted by someone at Shutterstock about Offset a while ago when I posted a question about it on here.   I do very well with some of my travel landscape photos on SS, however I wondered if I might have a better market at Offset.    I spoke on the phone with the rep from Shutterstock (can't remember her name, sorry), and she liked some of my images I sent her and the ones in my existing SS portfolio.   However, I needed to have a minimum portfolio size for uploading,  and those images needed to be not in the micro world, which I wasn't ready for at that time.  I could be allowed to use images from my SS port, however they would need to be removed from SS and since some of them were such good performers she wasn't keen on doing that (neither was I). 

She was going to send me some more information, but never did, and I never followed up.   

I ended up deciding that I was too small potatoes to do Offset if they were going to have upload miminums.   I do stock because I can do it on my own time and upload at my own pace (slow as that is) since I have another day job.   So Offset isn't for me at this time.   

I am much more interested in their new Premier thing since that sounds like it will use the existing SS catalog.    I will probably be too small potatoes for that too, alas.   






skyfish

Quote from: Buffalo Bill on November 04, 2014, 15:23
maybe my logic is off but wouldn't Shutter tell the artist that they should apply to offset based on their already existing portfolio? For example, in my day time job if you are doing very well the upper management will tell you that you should apply for a higher position.
Why they should be interested? Looks like competing collections in this case.
BTW - ss portfolio often is not representing the photographer, because what was accepted is filtered by other people, not always following pure ss interest as was discussed already. They invent own rules every time. The last one - it is not permitted to use toning on editorial images. For me, but they accept tons of editorial toned with different themes. Accidentally only 2 such images got in, but it was long time ago.
And never in my life i saw a company which was interested in growing of their personnel. They prefer to replace people.