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Started by zebra007, February 19, 2015, 05:09

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suzbah

He/She clearly copying your works but i am afraid there is nothing you can do about it...

Nancy_BallyB

Quote from: andy_arden on February 19, 2015, 09:09
you really can't imagine that is a copyright infringement, i mean the idea looks the same but there are really different photos it is not copied per se. And what make you think that the original is "original"? If you make a search you will find dozens of photos with the same idea, not only those 2 contributors.

It seems to be easy for making money. I just go to popular page and copy their ideas and adjust it a bit or just make my  photo by copy from them then I can stand in popular page and get more income.

Wowww thanks for good idea
;) ;) ;) ;D ;D

MarcvsTvllivs

A photographer's copyright *can* be infringed by plagiarism, not just by outright copying. I think you stand a good chance to shut this person down in most jurisdictions. I would consider getting a lawyer.

ShadySue

Have you contacted SS directly?

zebra007

Quote from: ShadySue on February 19, 2015, 18:56
Have you contacted SS directly?
I don't know what to do right now. :(

zebra007

behavior like this. :(

sweetgirll

I wonder what would the stock image company do in that case...Even if is not considered infringement I take they might not like that...

I found this article by some lawyers that addresses the copycat,  copyright infringement versus plagiarism...

they address this issue Is in the middle of the article look for the title  is "Copyright Infringement versus Plagiarism" ...

bellow is the link.....

http://www.wisbar.org/newspublications/wisconsinlawyer/pages/article.aspx?Volume=84&Issue=6&ArticleID=2098

What do you guys think?

When it comes to clipart vectors, there are things that happen when it comes to similar...when people use the same techniques.

Monica

No Free Lunch

have you contacted the artist directly? Same concepts for sure but not exact enough to be considered a copy.  Just a slight change is probably enough to get out of legal trouble. Sad but that's reality...  :-\


 

zebra007

Quote from: sweetgirll on February 19, 2015, 19:06
I wonder what would the stock image company do in that case...Even if is not considered infringement I take they might not like that...

I found this article by some lawyers that addresses the copycat,  copyright infringement versus plagiarism...

they address this issue Is in the middle of the article look for the title  is "Copyright Infringement versus Plagiarism" ...

bellow is the link.....

http://www.wisbar.org/newspublications/wisconsinlawyer/pages/article.aspx?Volume=84&Issue=6&ArticleID=2098

What do you guys think?

When it comes to clipart vectors, there are things that happen when it comes to similar...when people use the same techniques.
so confused :o

zebra007

Quote from: No Free Lunch on February 19, 2015, 19:15
have you contacted the artist directly? Same concepts for sure but not exact enough to be considered a copy.  Just a slight change is probably enough to get out of legal trouble. Sad but that's reality...  :-\




I try but can't contact him. :(

zebra007

A very smart copycat :-\

No Free Lunch

Quote from: zebra007 on February 19, 2015, 19:23
Quote from: No Free Lunch on February 19, 2015, 19:15
have you contacted the artist directly? Same concepts for sure but not exact enough to be considered a copy.  Just a slight change is probably enough to get out of legal trouble. Sad but that's reality...  :-\




I try but can't contact him. :(

FYI

https://www.facebook.com/vasinl?fref=nf



zebra007

#37
Quote from: No Free Lunch on February 19, 2015, 19:28
Quote from: zebra007 on February 19, 2015, 19:23
Quote from: No Free Lunch on February 19, 2015, 19:15
have you contacted the artist directly? Same concepts for sure but not exact enough to be considered a copy.  Just a slight change is probably enough to get out of legal trouble. Sad but that's reality...  :-\




I try but can't contact him. :(

FYI

https://www.facebook.com/vasinl?fref=nf
Thank you.I will send a message.

Kernowp

Without looking at each image in minute detail, i am assuming that all originals are yours and all copies have later sequence numbers on shutterstock.

By all means contact him but make it clear that unless he takes these down straight away, you will report to shutterstock.

If not resolved, then give the detail to shutterstock.  If there is any justice in this world, the volume of this activity should at very least cause them to remove the images with the possibility that they close his account altogether.

If you feel like it, miss out contacting him and go straight to shutterstock.

I hope you get it resolved.


No Free Lunch

Quote from: zebra007 on February 19, 2015, 19:39
Quote from: No Free Lunch on February 19, 2015, 19:28
Quote from: zebra007 on February 19, 2015, 19:23
Quote from: No Free Lunch on February 19, 2015, 19:15
have you contacted the artist directly? Same concepts for sure but not exact enough to be considered a copy.  Just a slight change is probably enough to get out of legal trouble. Sad but that's reality...  :-\




I try but can't contact him. :(

FYI

https://www.facebook.com/vasinl?fref=nf
Thank you.I will send a message.

Maybe you can hire him since he seems to like your style so much - at least you would get all his images and he gets paid 8)


zebra007

Quote from: Kernowp on February 19, 2015, 19:53
Without looking at each image in minute detail, i am assuming that all originals are yours and all copies have later sequence numbers on shutterstock.

By all means contact him but make it clear that unless he takes these down straight away, you will report to shutterstock.

If not resolved, then give the detail to shutterstock.  If there is any justice in this world, the volume of this activity should at very least cause them to remove the images with the possibility that they close his account altogether.

If you feel like it, miss out contacting him and go straight to shutterstock.

I hope you get it resolved.
Thank you all very kind from this forum :)

andy_arden

why don't you sue all the 256 pages with this similars then?

http://www.shutterstock.com/cat.mhtml?lang=en&language=en&ref_site=photo&search_source=search_form&version=llv1&anyorall=all&safesearch=1&use_local_boost=1&search_tracking_id=cLj7PVlJgFdDCdfILnTd8A&searchterm=business%20man%20growth%20graph&show_color_wheel=1&orient=&commercial_ok=&media_type=images&search_cat=&searchtermx=&photographer_name=&people_gender=&people_age=&people_ethnicity=&people_number=&color=&page=1

man...you are really blind. if it is not exactly the same photo used with other vector graphic on it it can't be copyright infringement, if it is please show us how you registered the copyright for the concept. pathetic really. i hope you understand what i mean.

tickstock

Contact Shutterstock, some of those are way too close to be acceptable.  SS should be protecting you from people stealing your images along with copying them.  You are wrong if you think an image has to be exactly the same, a carbon copy, in order for it to be infringing on his rights.  Good luck. 

I also don't see any reason to contact that contributor unless you do it through a lawyer.
Just my opinion.

zebra007

#43
Quote from: andy_arden on February 19, 2015, 20:02
why don't you sue all the 256 pages with this similars then?

http://www.shutterstock.com/cat.mhtml?lang=en&language=en&ref_site=photo&search_source=search_form&version=llv1&anyorall=all&safesearch=1&use_local_boost=1&search_tracking_id=cLj7PVlJgFdDCdfILnTd8A&searchterm=business%20man%20growth%20graph&show_color_wheel=1&orient=&commercial_ok=&media_type=images&search_cat=&searchtermx=&photographer_name=&people_gender=&people_age=&people_ethnicity=&people_number=&color=&page=1

man...you are really blind. if it is not exactly the same photo used with other vector graphic on it it can't be copyright infringement, if it is please show us how you registered the copyright for the concept. pathetic really. i hope you understand what i mean.
You made me confused.
So I should understand that things are normally right?. :-\

andy_arden

#44
one thing is to be inspired by an idea and make one different photo yourself...other angle...other design...that from my point of view is OK. it is NOT ok to just copy a photo make a few adjustments, change 2 colors and draw a different graphic on it..and than claim that is your idea.

Please tell me that you made that photos from your OWN mind and haven't looked at the existing shutterstock database with concepts close to yours BEFORE making that "new concepts".

zebra007

Quote from: tickstock on February 19, 2015, 20:08
Contact Shutterstock, some of those are way too close to be acceptable.  SS should be protecting you from people stealing your images along with copying them.  You are wrong if you think an image has to be exactly the same, a carbon copy, in order for it to be infringing on his rights.  Good luck. 

I also don't see any reason to contact that contributor unless you do it through a lawyer.
I think you have a good reason.
I will do it. :-*

zebra007

Quote from: andy_arden on February 19, 2015, 20:17
one thing is to be inspired by an idea and make one different photo yourself...other angle...other design...that from my point of view is OK. it is NOT ok to just copy a photo make a few adjustments, change 2 colors and draw a different graphic on it..and than claim that is your idea.

Please tell me that you made that photos from your OWN mind and haven't looked at the existing shutterstock database with concepts close to yours BEFORE making that "new concepts".
I understand I did not made the masterpiece.
But my images made before him.Please see ID:number.
What should i do for this case? :-\

andy_arden

it is not about the photo being a masterpiece. it also could be a piece of c**p which isn't the case here, your photos are all right by quality terms. it is about an idea. you aren't the one that made a business man with hand touching graphic concept. that fact that that files appeared after yours isn't relevant either (as long as the photo is NOT identical). One thing is clear to me now even if you didn't say it directly. You yourself have been inspired by similar concepts and you try now to take down a user that "copied" your "original" concept. Thanks for clearing this for me. Good luck with your work.

dpimborough

Or you could send him a nice "polite" message on his FB account


;)

"Not Everyone can become a great artist, But a great artist can come from anywhere."

What a ham!

Kernowp

Quote from: andy_arden on February 19, 2015, 20:37
it is not about the photo being a masterpiece. it also could be a piece of c**p which isn't the case here, your photos are all right by quality terms. it is about an idea. you aren't the one that made a business man with hand touching graphic concept. that fact that that files appeared after yours isn't relevant either (as long as the photo is NOT identical). One thing is clear to me now even if you didn't say it directly. You yourself have been inspired by similar concepts and you try now to take down a user that "copied" your "original" concept. Thanks for clearing this for me. Good luck with your work.

This poster may be right or he may be wrong.  Creative work will inevitably involve taking some influence from the work of others. However, many of us here seem to think that the copier has gone too far, too often.  By putting it to shutterstock, i think that you will have a good chance of them taking action. 

Let us know what happens.