My new content sale nearly stopped after all these issues on shutterstock.

Funnily enough just had sale of something thats only been up a few days but I have been selling quite a bit of my really old stuff of late. Suspect the search algorithm is all over the place.

Same here

No

Another NO

Quote from: 60D on September 02, 2016, 17:51
Another NO

The same. And it starts worrying me 

Quote from: Chichikov on September 02, 2016, 16:40
No

Good job!

Quote from: Justanotherphotographer on September 02, 2016, 19:23

Quote from: Chichikov on September 02, 2016, 16:40
No

Good job!

At least someone is happy with the new algorithm. I wonder how many are alike, so we can guess if it is any chance for reversing the search algorithm or not.

Naturally they don't use/keep algorithms that lowers overall sales. Some people will gain sales, others will lose. Just a fact of life.

Quote from: increasingdifficulty on September 02, 2016, 20:14
Naturally they don't use/keep algorithms that lowers overall sales. Some people will gain sales, others will lose. Just a fact of life.

Its surprising though it seems to swing so rapidly you would think over time it would get closer to the ideal and vary less unless there's been a radical change in buyer needs. But if overall sales remain the same/similar  then there's probably as many happy as not......

Hardly any wonder new stuff doesn't sell

SS just present the default search as "Popular" the undiscovered stuff now has no hope of being found as they got rid of that search option, newest is hidden under a drop down menu which many buyers won't bother with and ditto for so called best match

So all future sales will just be a rehashed "popular" unless you are in a very small niche of 1 to 2 pages

Quote from: Teddy the Cat on September 02, 2016, 21:41
SS just present the default search as "Popular" the undiscovered stuff now has no hope of being found as they got rid of that search option

I think you're right but... what could have been the motivation to get rid of that "undiscovered" option?

to me, the solution is simple...

if everyone in ss who has been seeing months of zero downloads from their new uploads
just delete most of them , and then wait , say , around december, or whatever you best selling months are, to reupload them,
ss will notice this strange phenomenon ...ie sudden drop in numbers of images ..due to so many contributors deleting their new non-sellers altogether in the same period, eg. end of this month...
they will do something about it.

it only needs all of us to do this at a given agreed period...
like i said... end of this month..
or whenever everyone agrees.

Quote from: marthamarks on September 03, 2016, 00:58

Quote from: Teddy the Cat on September 02, 2016, 21:41
SS just present the default search as "Popular" the undiscovered stuff now has no hope of being found as they got rid of that search option

I think you're right but... what could have been the motivation to get rid of that "undiscovered" option?

What's their motivation? Who knows judging by all the problems recently I doubt they really know themselves

Quote from: etudiante_rapide on September 03, 2016, 01:32
to me, the solution is simple...

if everyone in ss who has been seeing months of zero downloads from their new uploads
just delete most of them , and then wait , say , around december, or whatever you best selling months are, to reupload them,
ss will notice this strange phenomenon ...ie sudden drop in numbers of images ..due to so many contributors deleting their new non-sellers altogether in the same period, eg. end of this month...
they will do something about it.

it only needs all of us to do this at a given agreed period...
like i said... end of this month..
or whenever everyone agrees.

Except if you delete an image from SS and try an upload again it will be rejected as already having been uploaded.

I tried that a couple of times in the past and the re-upload was rejected for that reason

Quote from: etudiante_rapide on September 03, 2016, 01:32
to me, the solution is simple...

if everyone in ss who has been seeing months of zero downloads from their new uploads
just delete most of them , and then wait , say , around december, or whatever you best selling months are, to reupload them,
ss will notice this strange phenomenon ...ie sudden drop in numbers of images ..due to so many contributors deleting their new non-sellers altogether in the same period, eg. end of this month...
they will do something about it.

it only needs all of us to do this at a given agreed period...
like i said... end of this month..
or whenever everyone agrees.

"all of us" = "all SS contributors currently active on msg" = a tiny percentage of SS's contributors. Only a proportion of them would be agreeable.

As SS seems to be exactly emulating iS at the moment, and there have been at least two mass deactivations I remember, it won't make one iota of difference.

Delete for yourselves, for self-respect, for catharsis - but don't expect it to make any difference to SS policy (if they have one).

Quote from: marthamarks on September 03, 2016, 00:58

Quote from: Teddy the Cat on September 02, 2016, 21:41
SS just present the default search as "Popular" the undiscovered stuff now has no hope of being found as they got rid of that search option

I think you're right but... what could have been the motivation to get rid of that "undiscovered" option?

Maybe they realized that everyone can figure out how many photos are actually  sold out of those 90+ million they report. Maybe some analysts had even trends proving that the database growth is done mainly through a growing number of undiscovered photos, therefore not a guarantee for future financial success.
Remember that they shutdown that 3rd party site doing exactly that for individuals.

Otherwise it is hard to understand, indeed, why the extra option has been removed. I hope it was not because some old timers complained about falling sales. 

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Well the last time I checked among popular keywords around 50% of the stuff on SS never showed a sale.

So they probably wanted to hide that figure

Quote from: Artist on September 02, 2016, 08:40
My new content sale nearly stopped after all these issues on shutterstock.

I upload couple images last Sunday, it was approved under 10 minutes and 3 is sold on Monday morning.

Quote from: Teddy the Cat on September 03, 2016, 18:47
Well the last time I checked among popular keywords around 50% of the stuff on SS never showed a sale.

So they probably wanted to hide that figure

Again, just like iStock. It was too easy to see that even the historic best sellers weren't selling their newer work (as credit sales), so they removed the ability to see dl figures, so newbies can be uninformed and hopeful.

It is just s bug. I've sold "new" files and the graph shows 0. The problem is in the graph, not the sales.

Quote from: Cylonphoto on September 04, 2016, 08:48
It is just s bug. I've sold "new" files and the graph shows 0. The problem is in the graph, not the sales.

The OP was asking about the lack of new images selling not the graph

Quote from: ShadySue on September 03, 2016, 12:20
"all of us" = "all SS contributors currently active on msg" = a tiny percentage of SS's contributors. Only a proportion of them would be agreeable.

As SS seems to be exactly emulating iS at the moment, and there have been at least two mass deactivations I remember, it won't make one iota of difference.

Delete for yourselves, for self-respect, for catharsis - but don't expect it to make any difference to SS policy (if they have one).

good point !!! at this stage of seemingly dejavu iS, it really won't make a difference
when the capt plans to leave his sinking ship; if not, already gone...
and left it with his cabin-boys to run the ship.
it's wiser to look elsewhere and be prepared for the sinking of the Titanic

Quote from: etudiante_rapide on September 04, 2016, 15:41

Quote from: ShadySue on September 03, 2016, 12:20
"all of us" = "all SS contributors currently active on msg" = a tiny percentage of SS's contributors. Only a proportion of them would be agreeable.

As SS seems to be exactly emulating iS at the moment, and there have been at least two mass deactivations I remember, it won't make one iota of difference.

Delete for yourselves, for self-respect, for catharsis - but don't expect it to make any difference to SS policy (if they have one).

good point !!! at this stage of seemingly dejavu iS, it really won't make a difference
when the capt plans to leave his sinking ship; if not, already gone...
and left it with his cabin-boys to run the ship.
it's wiser to look elsewhere and be prepared for the sinking of the Titanic

Lord Hanson in London during the 80s was a famous corporate raider. His plan was to milk the cow to its last drop of blood and then simply just leave it to die hoping that something or someone would come along and buy the remains in bits and pieces.

As you say the captain has left. Well he left ages ago and replaced his mates with civil-servants who haven't got the slightest idea of how to navigate a ship so most likely in the nearby future it will turn into the flying Dutchman.

I'm not even started my sales itself.All my graph shows Zero "0".Why??[https://www.shutterstock.com/g/r_D_r]
https://www.shutterstock.com/g/r_D_r