IMHO the reason why new files are selling bad is new layout of search result page.
There is no easy (one-click) access to new files, no undiscovered.
Users have to click twice to see new content.

Quote from: baran on September 14, 2016, 12:51
IMHO the reason why new files are selling bad is new layout of search result page.
There is no easy (one-click) access to new files, no undiscovered.
Users have to click twice to see new content.

ah, at last, a voice from the client side!!!
the new amazing high tech IT innovation to service our clients , as they so proud announced
last month with the departure of the IT chief to "spend time with family"
must have told them ... K.I.S.S.

but here we have the new IT geniuses totally farking it up like big-time!!!

Đizs krajst, chill down already, breath, are you replacingRrinderart or what?? *, you're annoying with constant bullshiting...

Quote from: Dumc on September 14, 2016, 20:21
Đizs krajst, chill down already, breath, are you replacingRrinderart or what?? *, you're annoying with constant bullshiting...

arsch geige nie mand spricht zu dir

 ales mahen fertih cu spaciren

I think the reason is that old established sellers brings in the bread and butter and thats what the bean counters want. Its a matter of playing it safe. New sellers haven't proved themselves and the monthly take might go down for a while which in their eyes is absolute catastrophy.

The very thought of showing and promoting new files for tomorrow never seem to cross thir minds.

in reality September is going worse than August, even after a portfolio increase

Quote from: alexzappa on September 15, 2016, 13:04
in reality September is going worse than August, even after a portfolio increase

glad to hear yet another person who is not a company lackey or fanboy
pretending that all is well.  there is definitely something very wrong at ss
much in the same manner as istock after the bigG took it.

Quote from: gyllens on September 15, 2016, 09:19
I think the reason is that old established sellers brings in the bread and butter and thats what the bean counters want. Its a matter of playing it safe. New sellers haven't proved themselves and the monthly take might go down for a while which in their eyes is absolute catastrophy.

The very thought of showing and promoting new files for tomorrow never seem to cross thir minds.

right too. but even the old established sellers are not selling.
as alexzappa said , or others at ss forum, lots of zero... not even the regulars
are recording a sale. that is not right !!!

The next quarterly report will be interesting not sure when its due? I like evidence rather than anecdote and with the best will in the world what is on this site is a tiny sample. However, things do seem to be going off the rails and Adobe are probably the first serious competition they've had for years.

Sales at Shutterstock in September are very low... not even close to last year when we had much less footage online. Something is wrong at their side, that's sure.

Every Month worst than previous Month.  This is the sad reality.

Problem is that any uploading of new files is a waste. Once files have been in micro they are "locked" no rights or Royalty-free macro agency wants them and you can't supply micro images to a staunch macro agency since it could lead to all sorts of troubles.

Right now there is hardly any exposure or promotion of new files and I really don't understand the SS game on this one.

New files take a bit longer than a few years ago but I still have files climbing to page one within 3 to 4 weeks. Both vector and images. SS is far from going down for me. Yes I see some swings (seasonal and abnormal) but overall you have to realize it's like a street store. New products come on the shells and old ones start selling less. And like in a real store sales are not the same every month.

I know I am not the only one. I am on SS since 2011. I also do wedding photography and when you make bad wedding photo's the customer tells 20 people. When your work is good they only tell 5. I think it's the same on the forum here. When you have bad sales everybody tells. When you have good sales you just relax and keep going. I might step on some toes now by being to positive? But this is my experience.

Quote from: Stickystock on September 16, 2016, 10:00
New files take a bit longer than a few years ago but I still have files climbing to page one within 3 to 4 weeks. Both vector and images. SS is far from going down for me. Yes I see some swings (seasonal and abnormal) but overall you have to realize it's like a street store. New products come on the shells and old ones start selling less. And like in a real store sales are not the same every month.

I know I am not the only one. I am on SS since 2011. I also do wedding photography and when you make bad wedding photo's the customer tells 20 people. When your work is good they only tell 5. I think it's the same on the forum here. When you have bad sales everybody tells. When you have good sales you just relax and keep going. I might step on some toes now by being to positive? But this is my experience.

Nobody said it's bad for everyone but when so many people complain about a sudden drop in September, there must be something true in it.

Your example of the street shop is exactly the opposite of the title of this thread. Many people observed that old files sell more and new ones less or not at all lately, not vice-versa.

Quote from: etudiante_rapide on September 14, 2016, 23:36

Quote from: Dumc on September 14, 2016, 20:21
Đizs krajst, chill down already, breath, are you replacingRrinderart or what?? *, you're annoying with constant bullshiting...

arsch geige nie mand spricht zu dir

Amen

This discussion is as old as Shutterstock. It's just boring. Two weeks later, everything has changed again.

Quote from: roede-orm on September 16, 2016, 13:50
This discussion is as old as Shutterstock. It's just boring. Two weeks later, everything has changed again.

and what changed?

Quote from: gyllens on September 16, 2016, 08:17
Problem is that any uploading of new files is a waste. Once files have been in micro they are "locked" no rights or Royalty-free macro agency wants them and you can't supply micro images to a staunch macro agency since it could lead to all sorts of troubles.

Right now there is hardly any exposure or promotion of new files and I really don't understand the SS game on this one.

you can sell rf in both micro and macro, if macro don't do exclusivity in photos, alamy for example.
personally i find every image has its position in the market. no way i will provide rf with images i consider to have something unique...my best portfolio go to off set alamy and 2 3 other agency, included my best editorial photos that goes to reduxpictures.
In micro i put good image but i not consider them unique or having somethings interesting a customer could buy as rm.
thanks to this strategy i keep good earning in rm that compensate the fall in rf. i'm sure if i had put all images in rf i would have seen my earnings completely falling down.
it's economic laws at the end.

Quote from: Artist on September 16, 2016, 15:24

Quote from: roede-orm on September 16, 2016, 13:50
This discussion is as old as Shutterstock. It's just boring. Two weeks later, everything has changed again.

and what changed?

Sales of course! ;-)

Quote from: jonbull on September 16, 2016, 16:29

Quote from: gyllens on September 16, 2016, 08:17
Problem is that any uploading of new files is a waste. Once files have been in micro they are "locked" no rights or Royalty-free macro agency wants them and you can't supply micro images to a staunch macro agency since it could lead to all sorts of troubles.

Right now there is hardly any exposure or promotion of new files and I really don't understand the SS game on this one.

you can sell rf in both micro and macro, if macro don't do exclusivity in photos, alamy for example.
personally i find every image has its position in the market. no way i will provide rf with images i consider to have something unique...my best portfolio go to off set alamy and 2 3 other agency, included my best editorial photos that goes to reduxpictures.
In micro i put good image but i not consider them unique or having somethings interesting a customer could buy as rm.
thanks to this strategy i keep good earning in rm that compensate the fall in rf. i'm sure if i had put all images in rf i would have seen my earnings completely falling down.
it's economic laws at the end.

Works with Alamy yes but not the kind of agencies I'm with. Its a no go.

https://www.shutterstock.com/g/r_D_r?search_source=base_gallery&language=en&page=1&sort=newest&safe=true I think New images are not visible to customers.Compare to last month,Zero download in September for me.

Not for me....you have to consider the possibility that people don't want to buy your pictures.

Quote from: r_D_r on September 17, 2016, 08:10
https://www.shutterstock.com/g/r_D_r?search_source=base_gallery&language=en&page=1&sort=newest&safe=true I think New images are not visible to customers.Compare to last month,Zero download in September for me.

If I remember correctly, you are the one that has stolen "by mistake" other people's work and were asked to remove them, a few days ago. Now you have 100+ new images (if these are yours) and you already want sales.

http://www.microstockgroup.com/26253/26253/msg463357/#msg463357
http://www.microstockgroup.com/26253/26253/msg463364/#msg463364

Man, you have a real problem. Be thankful that SS didn't close your account for copyright infringement.

I am surprised that none of MSG forum users go on the Shutterstock Facebook page to write about these problems
https://www.facebook.com/Shutterstock/

Generally on this page the staff gives answers

I think that if we go in mass on this page to expose this "new content issue" we will have more possibility to be heard.

Quote " go in mass "   I don't think i matter the slightest. If we don't like it we can leave. Thats been the general attitude for the past three years. Thanks to people like us SS have grown to big too powerful to listen.