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Submissions and access gone at Envato

Started by Yay Images Billionaire, November 16, 2016, 03:03

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fritz

Quote from: jamesgiroux on November 18, 2016, 06:05
Hey All,

Thanks for taking the time to comment.  I just wanted to let you know that we're reading all your comments.  We're responding to questions and thoughts from our official post (https://forums.envato.com/t/adjusting-our-focus-a-new-approach-for-photos-at-envato/).  We'd love to have your input into the discussion there and we'll do our best to answer any questions you might have.

Thanks,

James.
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EmberMike


Kind of lame that they're just cutting people loose if they don't meet some new standard. How about an opportunity for people to modify their portfolios before just dropping them?

Not all that surprising, though. Seems like a very Envato kind of move to make some drastic change that screws over many of the very same people who helped them build their collection into what it is today.

Tror

Quote from: jamesgiroux on November 18, 2016, 06:05
Hey All,

Thanks for taking the time to comment.  I just wanted to let you know that we're reading all your comments.  We're responding to questions and thoughts ....


Good. You are very welcome.

...and since you are reading: when do you give up the shady "Marketplace" concept and get a real Agency with a transparent tax paradigm?

Justanotherphotographer

#28
What? is there a summary of the subs program somewhere? Is it really unlimited DLs for 49$!!!!!!!!

What files are included, just photos or photos and graphics?

Found a page that says its's $29! what do authors get per download in this abomination?

SpaceStockFootage

$29 currently, going up to the regular price of $49 at some point. The revenue split is 50% to Envato and 50% to authors, although there's some kind of modifier based on the value of the item... so you'll get less for a photo than a website template.

So it's impossible to say what you'll get per photo until it's been running a while and there's some historical data from contributors. The more they download the less you'll get, but they do have something slightly different that might stop people downloading millions of files a month... each item needs to be registered for a specific use. So you can't just download stuff for fun and use it in any old thing. If you do, then you don't have a valid license to use it. Sure, that's open to abuse and there's no real way to check, and I'm sure it will be abused by a minority of subscribers... but I'd like to think the majority of buyers play by the rules. Otherwise none of us would ever get any extended license sales.

But yeah, whether it's going to be profitable for contributors remains to be seen. If it's a reasonable addition to sales in addition to marketplace earnings then happy days. Time will tell.


Mantis

All that's going to happen is Envanto is going to yield an exclusive, limited, much smaller collection whereby buyers with simple needs who need small sizes will simply defect. It's my personal belief that envanto want's a very exclusive buyer base who is willing to pay more in some cases, yet they are trying to keep some buyers with that horrible subs plan....unlimited downloads for $49.....WOW.  The good news is that many of their buyers will defect to another micro.  So as they push out contributors they also push out buyers.  Nice move Envanto.


Justanotherphotographer


Microstockphoto

Quote from: Pauws99 on November 23, 2016, 20:56
Quote from: SpaceStockFootage on November 23, 2016, 11:44
Couple of bits...

https://forums.envato.com/t/switch-to-single-resolution-for-photos/74586

https://forums.envato.com/t/envato-elements-update-future-plans/72682
It seems to be going down very well with customers............... :o

well, they have to pay more instead of less, good for us but of course a buyer is going to moan. we should tell the buyer to consider the photographer as well. or are we now backing the buyer in saying that our images are not worth more than 1 dollar, *

Pauws99

Quote from: Microstockphoto on November 23, 2016, 22:12
Quote from: Pauws99 on November 23, 2016, 20:56
Quote from: SpaceStockFootage on November 23, 2016, 11:44
Couple of bits...

https://forums.envato.com/t/switch-to-single-resolution-for-photos/74586

https://forums.envato.com/t/envato-elements-update-future-plans/72682
It seems to be going down very well with customers............... :o

well, they have to pay more instead of less, good for us but of course a buyer is going to moan. we should tell the buyer to consider the photographer as well. or are we now backing the buyer in saying that our images are not worth more than 1 dollar, *
No they don't have to pay more they can go somewhere else which they probably will

Desintegrator

Serious question:
Why do I get $4 sales on files that cost $5, $2.4 sales on files that cost $3, etc...  And that's before you deduct your shady fees and taxes..

increasingdifficulty

Quote from: Desintegrator on November 27, 2016, 14:26
Serious question:
Why do I get $4 sales on files that cost $5, $2.4 sales on files that cost $3, etc...  And that's before you deduct your shady fees and taxes..

1. 20% so called buyer fee. 80% of list price remains.
2a. 55% author fee if non-exclusive after that.
2b. 12.5%-37.5% author fee if exclusive.
3. U.S. tax if from a non-treaty country, a country with >0% tax treaty or if you haven't filled out the forms.

LDV81

Quote from: Microstockphoto on November 16, 2016, 05:51
they have locked down submissions for everyone and are going to remove portfolios. only high quality content will be allowed. they will stop reviewing and give approved authors control over content and pricing. this project will take 12 months to complete,

LOL!
As far as I am concerned, they can just close down the whole shop.

Sion

#39
Quote from: Chichikov on November 17, 2016, 16:57
I have just uploaded 47 images on Photodune (by ftp and then on the site) without any problem

That's a good sign. You may be a among the small selected group of high quality content contributors.

They used to give a top authors list. I last looked a few months ago I was just hanging on 100-ish position. I'm not too sure I could make it.


Dumc

For me, going to Upload/Start upload still works, but I havent actually try to really upload anything....