Quote from: Pauws99 on February 02, 2017, 17:34

Quote from: qunamax on February 02, 2017, 17:17
Fotolia is a complete mystery for me, while having daily sales on SS and IS, I maybe have one a month on FT and every second one is 0.18. At least the upload is straightforward enough.

Where are you from I think Fotolia suits the European market more?

Serbia, not EU, but surely with aesthetics more in line with Europe than US and I'd say my photos are more organic than the traditional stock look. Strange but still not judging, I'll make a call after I have a 1000 sitting for a few months at least.

Quote from: Pauws99 on February 02, 2017, 17:34

Quote from: qunamax on February 02, 2017, 17:17
Fotolia is a complete mystery for me, while having daily sales on SS and IS, I maybe have one a month on FT and every second one is 0.18. At least the upload is straightforward enough.

Where are you from I think Fotolia suits the European market more?

Historically that's true, old FT was more European. Now the Adobe buyers are adding graphics and illustration income in addition.

From the first day the lowest ever commission was 25c, now it's higher. Never 18c ever. 99c, $1.65, $1.38, $2.30, $1.84, others.

in last few months 80% of my sales are from usa (tax 30%) and before it was only 10 % of usa sales - and I m on eu fotolia

Quote from: YadaYadaYada on February 03, 2017, 05:17

Quote from: Pauws99 on February 02, 2017, 17:34

Quote from: qunamax on February 02, 2017, 17:17
Fotolia is a complete mystery for me, while having daily sales on SS and IS, I maybe have one a month on FT and every second one is 0.18. At least the upload is straightforward enough.

Where are you from I think Fotolia suits the European market more?

Historically that's true, old FT was more European. Now the Adobe buyers are adding graphics and illustration income in addition.

From the first day the lowest ever commission was 25c, now it's higher. Never 18c ever. 99c, $1.65, $1.38, $2.30, $1.84, others.

Well it says 0.18 credits, I assume it's 1 credit = 1$.
When I go to My credits page there is like:
photo sale +0.25
-0.08 Withholding, image sold with subscription
so it's 0.18 give or take.

For me with a portfolio of just around 3000 files Adobe is way up and it certainly makes up for the big 40% of SS drop in earnings. No complaints.

Quote from: qunamax on February 03, 2017, 09:19

Quote from: YadaYadaYada on February 03, 2017, 05:17

Quote from: Pauws99 on February 02, 2017, 17:34

Quote from: qunamax on February 02, 2017, 17:17
Fotolia is a complete mystery for me, while having daily sales on SS and IS, I maybe have one a month on FT and every second one is 0.18. At least the upload is straightforward enough.

Where are you from I think Fotolia suits the European market more?

Historically that's true, old FT was more European. Now the Adobe buyers are adding graphics and illustration income in addition.

From the first day the lowest ever commission was 25c, now it's higher. Never 18c ever. 99c, $1.65, $1.38, $2.30, $1.84, others.

Well it says 0.18 credits, I assume it's 1 credit = 1$.
When I go to My credits page there is like:
photo sale +0.25
-0.08 Withholding, image sold with subscription
so it's 0.18 give or take.

Got it, I'm in the US so no withholding or conversion or confusion. You get paid 25c but only get .18, sorry to hear that.

As a matter of detail, once you get 100 sales, you will start getting .33 minus the tax and conversion. That helps take the sting out a little.

But now I understand it that tax and conversion taking out of your pocket.

Quote from: qunamax on February 03, 2017, 09:19

Quote from: YadaYadaYada on February 03, 2017, 05:17

Quote from: Pauws99 on February 02, 2017, 17:34

Quote from: qunamax on February 02, 2017, 17:17
Fotolia is a complete mystery for me, while having daily sales on SS and IS, I maybe have one a month on FT and every second one is 0.18. At least the upload is straightforward enough.

Where are you from I think Fotolia suits the European market more?

Historically that's true, old FT was more European. Now the Adobe buyers are adding graphics and illustration income in addition.

From the first day the lowest ever commission was 25c, now it's higher. Never 18c ever. 99c, $1.65, $1.38, $2.30, $1.84, others.

Well it says 0.18 credits, I assume it's 1 credit = 1$.
When I go to My credits page there is like:
photo sale +0.25
-0.08 Withholding, image sold with subscription
so it's 0.18 give or take.

Maybe Serbia doesn't have any tax treaties with the US but have you checked out the Tax Center and filled out the W-8Ben form?

My fotolia sales really suck lately. I't's just dead. I mean, I have daily sales, but not as much as I used to, despite new upload. On the contrary, sales at SS are really good with January beeing my best month with number of sales.

Quote from: Dumc on February 03, 2017, 20:42
My fotolia sales really suck lately. I't's just dead. I mean, I have daily sales, but not as much as I used to, despite new upload. On the contrary, sales at SS are really good with January beeing my best month with number of sales.

Do you bother to order keywords? I did before but since a while I don't order it anymore. The content I've been adding recently seems to have no effect on my sales - same number of downloads and $ give or take as a few months ago. Wondering if it's worth to go back and order the keywords (and die of boredom)

Quote from: Dumc on February 03, 2017, 20:42
My fotolia sales really suck lately. I't's just dead. I mean, I have daily sales, but not as much as I used to, despite new upload. On the contrary, sales at SS are really good with January beeing my best month with number of sales.

Yes that's right, I signed it just like everywhere else but as it seems only Fotolia is reducing it right away, per sale, others do it before they payout.

I thought it was just me with so many complaining about SS.....I'm finding FT pretty average of late....though I'm slipping down their "league table" so others must be doing OK.

I think FT is the best agency right now. They've become my best earner and I'm very happy with them. There's less competition on there than SS and they've been quietly purging spammers in large numbers. I remember seeing so many spammers (repeating images and vectors like it's on SS) about 2 years ago and now they're all gone.

Quote from: Minsc on February 04, 2017, 00:47
I think FT is the best agency right now. They've become my best earner and I'm very happy with them. There's less competition on there than SS and they've been quietly purging spammers in large numbers. I remember seeing so many spammers (repeating images and vectors like it's on SS) about 2 years ago and now they're all gone.

Nice. Death to spam. One more compliment for Adobe.

What I see is more money for the sales I get on FT. But SS still beats them in total dollars. I'm not balanced with file numbers, so I see where someone else could be making more.

Just like always, it does depend on what files, types and subjects. Both places are the best. Everyplace else is trying to catch up. Not going to happen. I'm not talking special shops, exclusive agencies, top places with only top people. I mean of the general Microstock agencies there are only two now.

Quote from: Minsc on February 04, 2017, 00:47
I think FT is the best agency right now. They've become my best earner and I'm very happy with them. There's less competition on there than SS and they've been quietly purging spammers in large numbers. I remember seeing so many spammers (repeating images and vectors like it's on SS) about 2 years ago and now they're all gone.

Absolutely! but not just for steady sales more so for their trend their future thinking if you want. They actually try and do something!.......SS have gone to sleep in comparison.

Quote from: derek on February 04, 2017, 08:08

Quote from: Minsc on February 04, 2017, 00:47
I think FT is the best agency right now. They've become my best earner and I'm very happy with them. There's less competition on there than SS and they've been quietly purging spammers in large numbers. I remember seeing so many spammers (repeating images and vectors like it's on SS) about 2 years ago and now they're all gone.

Absolutely! but not just for steady sales more so for their trend their future thinking if you want. They actually try and do something!.......SS have gone to sleep in comparison.

well fotolia is 1/80 of my ss....ok i not had editorial in fotolia...but the rest is similar....in ss i upload a batch of 50 i sell at least 10 20 images the day after...some upload in fotolia one upload.in my opinion fotolia is more oriented towards conceptual, top view food and objects, loto of illustrations...if i see the best sale in day and week...i see only this kind of photography. ss sales more photography,landscape travel aerial.

Quote from: derek on February 04, 2017, 08:08

Quote from: Minsc on February 04, 2017, 00:47
I think FT is the best agency right now. They've become my best earner and I'm very happy with them. There's less competition on there than SS and they've been quietly purging spammers in large numbers. I remember seeing so many spammers (repeating images and vectors like it's on SS) about 2 years ago and now they're all gone.

Absolutely! but not just for steady sales more so for their trend their future thinking if you want. They actually try and do something!.......SS have gone to sleep in comparison.

Adobestock is a sleeping giant who's going to take over some day. Adding editorial will make them a big stick to swat their way to the top.

First pass will be IS indies and then come after SS. If the others keep dropping or fail to improve and add, they will see Adobe passing them.

Not trying to say tomorrow or next month, but in time Adobe is growing and IS is shrinking. SS is holding their spot, not much more.

near the adobe-fotolia join my sales in Fotolia dropped and stopped.

I asked if there was something wrong in my concept or quality (the same images sell VERY well in SS and iStock) and they talked about something I had just uploaded.

but my sales of OLD IMAGES that sold very well regularly , dropped. Not the new ones.

I asked simply if my content was undesiderable and if it made a sense continuing upload with them: they joked with this, answering that stopping to send content was not a good move to sell more: sarcasm is never an answer, nor a solution.