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Mantis

Quote from: PixelBytes on April 02, 2017, 22:13
Quote from: pancaketom on March 31, 2017, 20:26
I got the "weekly top seller" badge sometime in the last month with one of my unsuitable images. Everything is still up for sale. Sometimes I don't understand these sites (by sometimes I mean often when it comes to Envato).

My stuff is still there too and still made me decent income in March.  I'm wondering if they sent those letters to more people than they were actually deleting.

Or they realized that their current model is a cash cow and are going to keep it, then try a more "specialized" model for what they consider higher end work

Zalee

Well they haven't deleted mine yet but I'm pretty sure they will as I only have just over 100 photos and have only had a few sales. I had only just started uploading there but I have had a recent sale.

Chichikov

Yeah! My portfolio is empty...

pancaketom

It looks like my portfolio was removed some time between April 3 and April 4 2017.

I suppose if they still have any buyers the few remaining pics should start to sell ok without competition.
We get it ... -snip- ... we are lazy, incompetent, greedy or uncaring. Rebecca Rockafellar for Istock HQ

trek

Lots of empty portfolios on their "top authors" list.  Strange company.

https://photodune.net/authors/top

Pauws99

Mine have gone waiting with baited breath to find out what they will do with my $18.

fritz

14000+ files are gone! I'm top author with empty port  ;D
Did the devil make the world while god was sleeping?
T.Waits

Mantis

Quote from: fritz on April 04, 2017, 00:46
14000+ files are gone! I'm top author with empty port  ;D

Shameful. Sorry to hear that Fritz.

Zalee

Quote from: fritz on April 04, 2017, 00:46
14000+ files are gone! I'm top author with empty port  ;D

I can understand them deleting mine but when it's their top authors it's just beyond belief!

Mine is finally gone but has anyone received their payout yet?

sgoodwin4813

I just got an e-mail from them today saying they have deleted my images.  Glad I never bothered uploading many there and stopped quite a while ago.  Hopefully they will send the money soon and can be done with them.

pancaketom

I got notice of payout before they deleted the port (I made it over the threshold though).

They sent me an e-mail telling me my port was deleted (a day or 2 after I noticed it was gone).
We get it ... -snip- ... we are lazy, incompetent, greedy or uncaring. Rebecca Rockafellar for Istock HQ

Microstockphoto

Quote from: trek on April 03, 2017, 20:21
Lots of empty portfolios on their "top authors" list.  Strange company.

https://photodune.net/authors/top

Yuri still number 5 and he left ages ago. that list hasnt been updated in a while, because pressmaster has over 200K sales.

increasingdifficulty

#112
Quote from: Microstockphoto on April 05, 2017, 07:29
Yuri still number 5 and he left ages ago. that list hasnt been updated in a while, because pressmaster has over 200K sales.

That list is updated every 24 hours. It's only showing image sales since you're checking the PhotoDune site. The rest of Pressmaster's sales are for video/audio.

Yuri was number 1 by far when he still sold stuff there. Not surprising he's still number 5.

SpaceStockFootage

After looking at some of the top authors, I'm not surprised they were dropped. 170,000 files with 40,000 sales since 2011?

40,000 sales is great, not surprised they're a top author,  but from a quality over quantity vibe... if they're all $1 sales, then Envato is making 0.1 cents per image, per month... or 1.2 cents a year. Even if they average out at $5 sales, then you're looking at half a cent a month, or 6 cents a year. Would that even cover the storage costs, maintaining the site, and the time to review?

I appreciate that Photodune is for from one of the 'big boys', so it's not really the author's fault, but something had to be done. I guess it beats shutting it down entirely.

increasingdifficulty

Yes, PhotoDune was always their weak point, mainly because that's the area of stock products that is most mature with the most intense competition.

The other areas don't really have giant competitors in the same way.

Microprog

Interesting timing as well...all ready for the us tax deadline

Pauws99

Quote from: SpaceStockFootage on April 05, 2017, 14:08
After looking at some of the top authors, I'm not surprised they were dropped. 170,000 files with 40,000 sales since 2011?

40,000 sales is great, not surprised they're a top author,  but from a quality over quantity vibe... if they're all $1 sales, then Envato is making 0.1 cents per image, per month... or 1.2 cents a year. Even if they average out at $5 sales, then you're looking at half a cent a month, or 6 cents a year. Would that even cover the storage costs, maintaining the site, and the time to review?

I appreciate that Photodune is for from one of the 'big boys', so it's not really the author's fault, but something had to be done. I guess it beats shutting it down entirely.
Thing is what they did seems to make little sense in that they appear to have dropped a lot of people who sold well. I guess time will tell.

ferdinand

 a month ago they said they will keep my portfolio - now they say that I have to become part of envato elements or they will close my account on photo dune - until 12 od april - I don t know what to do?!

SpaceStockFootage

Quote from: ferdinand on April 07, 2017, 11:14
a month ago they said they will keep my portfolio - now they say that I have to become part of envato elements or they will close my account on photo dune - until 12 od april - I don t know what to do?!

That was part of the original announcement back in November.

https://forums.envato.com/t/adjusting-our-focus-a-new-approach-for-photos-at-envato/73708

To be fair, it's not 100% clear from the initial post that you have to be included in Elements or nothing at all... but that is clarified in some of the official questions and answers further down the thread.

MilanLipowski

#119
My portfolio has been deleted too. I am sorry the time I spent with them - it is completely wasted time. I have good sales with major stock agencies. Also some of my photos are on book covers. I won't miss Photodune. I also stopped buying images there for my clients. Well, what to say... hm. I just don't care :)

Mantis

My port has not been deleted yet, I have been invited to Elements. However, I read their Elements terms and could not find anything about how fast I can close my account should I find Elements ineffective.  I emailed them with that question but never heard back. My fear is that if you accept their terms you get locked in somehow to a long duration before you can close your account.  Until I see those terms, I won't accept and they can close my account.

SpaceStockFootage

Quote from: Pauws99 on April 05, 2017, 22:40
Quote from: SpaceStockFootage on April 05, 2017, 14:08
After looking at some of the top authors, I'm not surprised they were dropped. 170,000 files with 40,000 sales since 2011?

40,000 sales is great, not surprised they're a top author,  but from a quality over quantity vibe... if they're all $1 sales, then Envato is making 0.1 cents per image, per month... or 1.2 cents a year. Even if they average out at $5 sales, then you're looking at half a cent a month, or 6 cents a year. Would that even cover the storage costs, maintaining the site, and the time to review?

I appreciate that Photodune is for from one of the 'big boys', so it's not really the author's fault, but something had to be done. I guess it beats shutting it down entirely.
Thing is what they did seems to make little sense in that they appear to have dropped a lot of people who sold well. I guess time will tell.

Agreed, but it depends how you define selling well. 40,000 sales a year is great no matter how many images you have in your portfolio... but if you're earning a couple of cents a year per image, and it costs them more than that to host, review and maintain... then they're losing money on your portfolio.

Now, if they got rid of people who were making an average of $1 to $10 an image per year... then that would be a bit daft.

Pauws99

Quote from: SpaceStockFootage on April 07, 2017, 14:25
Quote from: Pauws99 on April 05, 2017, 22:40
Quote from: SpaceStockFootage on April 05, 2017, 14:08
After looking at some of the top authors, I'm not surprised they were dropped. 170,000 files with 40,000 sales since 2011?

40,000 sales is great, not surprised they're a top author,  but from a quality over quantity vibe... if they're all $1 sales, then Envato is making 0.1 cents per image, per month... or 1.2 cents a year. Even if they average out at $5 sales, then you're looking at half a cent a month, or 6 cents a year. Would that even cover the storage costs, maintaining the site, and the time to review?

I appreciate that Photodune is for from one of the 'big boys', so it's not really the author's fault, but something had to be done. I guess it beats shutting it down entirely.
Thing is what they did seems to make little sense in that they appear to have dropped a lot of people who sold well. I guess time will tell.

Agreed, but it depends how you define selling well. 40,000 sales a year is great no matter how many images you have in your portfolio... but if you're earning a couple of cents a year per image, and it costs them more than that to host, review and maintain... then they're losing money on your portfolio.

Now, if they got rid of people who were making an average of $1 to $10 an image per year... then that would be a bit daft.
As I don't have access to their data its really anecdotal in my case I can perfectly understand them dropping me as I had a very high rejection rate...although my sales of those accepted stood up quite well. I think they could have handled it a lot better..they've lost an awful lot of goodwill.

Julied83

I tried to ask them twice to close my account and pay my account balance. They only respond the same thing again and again that I have to wait. It's been since november nothing is moving there. What can I do  ?

PixelBytes

Yep, mines finally gone.  Crazy, since they solicited ME and uploaded my whole port for me a couple of years ago.  I was still making good sales, even last month, for a site of their size.  At least it was their time wasted getting my port online and not mine.