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what are "Subscription X" downloads?

Started by Dodie, March 15, 2018, 13:05

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Dodie

Can anyone please tell me what does "Subscription X" mean?
I got these dls today and I don't remember having them before.

On the downloads page there is no size like with other dls but on the detail page I see 3 dls, Subscription X, for 14.85 credits (16.5 - 1.65 tax).

As far as I know, on FT X size means EL-s for 100 credits. Is this some kind of pack of 3 EL-s?

Not that I am complaining,  I just don't understand.

Stockmaan

Today I have one.

License type         Subscription X
Download price    3 downloads
Credits earned    15.68


Dodie

#2
Mine were 16.5 before tax deduction (16.5 - 1.65 tax = 14.85).
Quote from: Stockmaan on March 15, 2018, 13:12
Today I have one.

License type         Subscription X
Download price    3 downloads
Credits earned    15.68
Did you have these before?

Stockmaan

Quote from: Dodie on March 15, 2018, 13:20
Mine were 16.5 before tax deduction (16.5 - 1.65 tax = 14.85).
Quote from: Stockmaan on March 15, 2018, 13:12
Today I have one.

License type         Subscription X
Download price    3 downloads
Credits earned    15.68
Did you have these before?

No.

Here, one contributor have this sales.
https://www.microstockgroup.com/fotolia-com/have-you-synced-your-fotolia-account-with-adobe-stock/msg508679/?topicseen#new

I send message to Mat too. We'll see.

Dodie

Quote from: Stockmaan on March 15, 2018, 13:36
No.

Here, one contributor have this sales.
https://www.microstockgroup.com/fotolia-com/have-you-synced-your-fotolia-account-with-adobe-stock/msg508679/?topicseen#new

I send message to Mat too. We'll see.

Thanks, I see that but Mat's answer was probably private (by email). It would be less time consuming to see the answers to our questions here too.

Stockmaan

Quote from: Stockmaan on March 15, 2018, 13:36
Quote from: Dodie on March 15, 2018, 13:20
Mine were 16.5 before tax deduction (16.5 - 1.65 tax = 14.85).
Quote from: Stockmaan on March 15, 2018, 13:12
Today I have one.

License type         Subscription X
Download price    3 downloads
Credits earned    15.68
Did you have these before?

No.

Here, one contributor have this sales.
https://www.microstockgroup.com/fotolia-com/have-you-synced-your-fotolia-account-with-adobe-stock/msg508679/?topicseen#new

I send message to Mat too. We'll see.

I got answer from Mat: "This is a custom sale for an Enterprise customer. Adobe Stock sales pay 33% commission of the price paid per image."



JaenStock

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Steveball

2 x 16.50 here too, pleasant surprise for a change.

Dodie

Quote from: Stockmaan on March 15, 2018, 17:19
Quote from: Stockmaan on March 15, 2018, 13:36
Quote from: Dodie on March 15, 2018, 13:20
Mine were 16.5 before tax deduction (16.5 - 1.65 tax = 14.85).
Quote from: Stockmaan on March 15, 2018, 13:12
Today I have one.

License type         Subscription X
Download price    3 downloads
Credits earned    15.68
Did you have these before?

No.

Here, one contributor have this sales.
https://www.microstockgroup.com/fotolia-com/have-you-synced-your-fotolia-account-with-adobe-stock/msg508679/?topicseen#new

I send message to Mat too. We'll see.

I got answer from Mat: "This is a custom sale for an Enterprise customer. Adobe Stock sales pay 33% commission of the price paid per image."

Thanks for letting me know Stockmann. Nice surprise.

obj owl

Pleasant, nice, exiting news, I guess what you don't know won't hurt you.

Dodie

Quote from: obj owl on March 15, 2018, 18:48
Pleasant, nice, exiting news, I guess what you don't know won't hurt you.
Or accept what you can't change.
Why don't you tell us what you know?

obj owl

Quote from: Dodie on March 15, 2018, 20:30
Quote from: obj owl on March 15, 2018, 18:48
Pleasant, nice, exiting news, I guess what you don't know won't hurt you.
Or accept what you can't change.
Why don't you tell us what you know?

I know that when an agency keeps you in the dark it's not in your interest.

panicAttack

question to Mat:

I got 2x 11.55 of those x subscription sales last few days

It's nice to finally see some larger sales but how can I get 11.55 for extended licence on adobe?

30% of 79 is 23.7

23.7 - 30% tax withholding is 16.5

looks like you took tax withholding 2 times because:

16.55 - another 30% tax withhold is about 11.55

how can this be?

Dumc

Quote from: obj owl on March 15, 2018, 20:33
Quote from: Dodie on March 15, 2018, 20:30
Quote from: obj owl on March 15, 2018, 18:48
Pleasant, nice, exiting news, I guess what you don't know won't hurt you.
Or accept what you can't change.
Why don't you tell us what you know?

I know that when an agency keeps you in the dark it's not in your interest.

I'd say that getting 94€ for a single sale is in my interest.

obj owl

Quote from: Dumc on March 16, 2018, 13:49
Quote from: obj owl on March 15, 2018, 20:33
Quote from: Dodie on March 15, 2018, 20:30
Quote from: obj owl on March 15, 2018, 18:48
Pleasant, nice, exiting news, I guess what you don't know won't hurt you.
Or accept what you can't change.
Why don't you tell us what you know?

I know that when an agency keeps you in the dark it's not in your interest.

I'd say that getting 94€ for a single sale is in my interest.

Nice?

Dodie

Quote from: panicAttack on March 16, 2018, 08:02
question to Mat:

I got 2x 11.55 of those x subscription sales last few days

It's nice to finally see some larger sales but how can I get 11.55 for extended licence on adobe?

30% of 79 is 23.7

23.7 - 30% tax withholding is 16.5

looks like you took tax withholding 2 times because:

16.55 - another 30% tax withhold is about 11.55

how can this be?
This is not a normal extended license. Check your stat again and you will see that the buyer downloaded the same image 3 times (I don't know why).
My two images were not downloaded before still the stat shows three dls, so these 16.5 (- tax) credits were payed for 3 dls (see my second image).

Either it is some promotional package or something worse.  I don't complain because 16.5: 3= 5.5 is still better than no dl. However I would like to know what is happening.

Dodie

Quote from: obj owl on March 15, 2018, 20:33
I know that when an agency keeps you in the dark it's not in your interest.
I agree with you but name one agency that doesn't keep us in the dark.

panicAttack

#17
Quote from: Dodie on March 16, 2018, 15:59
Quote from: panicAttack on March 16, 2018, 08:02
question to Mat:

I got 2x 11.55 of those x subscription sales last few days

It's nice to finally see some larger sales but how can I get 11.55 for extended licence on adobe?

30% of 79 is 23.7

23.7 - 30% tax withholding is 16.5

looks like you took tax withholding 2 times because:

16.55 - another 30% tax withhold is about 11.55

how can this be?
This is not a normal extended license. Check your stat again and you will see that the buyer downloaded the same image 3 times (I don't know why).
My two images were not downloaded before still the stat shows three dls, so these 16.5 (- tax) credits were payed for 3 dls (see my second image).

Either it is some promotional package or something worse.  I don't complain because 16.5: 3= 5.5 is still better than no dl. However I would like to know what is happening.

Those 2 sales are from 2 different images (not the same image), I am using fotolia site/interface and one image is sold only once and other it says it was 3 downloads(like you said):

License type Subscription XXL
Download price 1 download
Credits earned 11.55

Problem is that it looks like they are taking 30% tax withhold on adobe, and then again on fotolia site because it is only way for 30% of 79.99 dollars to become 11.55 (I explained in my first post).


Dodie

#18
Quote from: panicAttack on March 16, 2018, 16:09
Problem is that it looks like they are taking 30% tax withhold on adobe, and then again on fotolia site because it is only way for 30% of 79.99 dollars to become 11.55 (I explained in my first post).

If that is true than we have a big problem.

The license type is also strange, either it is a subscription or a XXL credit sale. Neither of these two are EL-s but the "subscription X" could be.
I am just guessing.

Fairplay

Quote from: panicAttack on March 16, 2018, 16:09
Quote from: Dodie on March 16, 2018, 15:59
Quote from: panicAttack on March 16, 2018, 08:02
question to Mat:

I got 2x 11.55 of those x subscription sales last few days

It's nice to finally see some larger sales but how can I get 11.55 for extended licence on adobe?

30% of 79 is 23.7

23.7 - 30% tax withholding is 16.5

looks like you took tax withholding 2 times because:

16.55 - another 30% tax withhold is about 11.55

how can this be?
This is not a normal extended license. Check your stat again and you will see that the buyer downloaded the same image 3 times (I don't know why).
My two images were not downloaded before still the stat shows three dls, so these 16.5 (- tax) credits were payed for 3 dls (see my second image).

Either it is some promotional package or something worse.  I don't complain because 16.5: 3= 5.5 is still better than no dl. However I would like to know what is happening.

Those 2 sales are from 2 different images (not the same image), I am using fotolia site/interface and one image is sold only once and other it says it was 3 downloads(like you said):

License type Subscription XXL
Download price 1 download
Credits earned 11.55

Problem is that it looks like they are taking 30% tax withhold on adobe, and then again on fotolia site because it is only way for 30% of 79.99 dollars to become 11.55 (I explained in my first post).

EL on Adobe is 50 credits no matter what price you put on FT. You get 33% of 50 = 16.5 - 30% tax = 11.55.

Dodie

Quote from: Fairplay on March 16, 2018, 16:39
EL on Adobe is 50 credits no matter what price you put on FT. You get 33% of 50 = 16.5 - 30% tax = 11.55.
Are you sure? Mat said at this other thread that EL-s are 79.99, so which one is it now?
http://www.microstockgroup.com/31290/31290/msg508528/#msg508528

panicAttack

Quote from: Dodie on March 16, 2018, 16:48
Quote from: Fairplay on March 16, 2018, 16:39
EL on Adobe is 50 credits no matter what price you put on FT. You get 33% of 50 = 16.5 - 30% tax = 11.55.
Are you sure? Mat said at this other thread that EL-s are 79.99, so which one is it now?
http://www.microstockgroup.com/31290/31290/msg508528/#msg508528

Mat said it's 33% of 79.99$


Fairplay

Quote from: Dodie on March 16, 2018, 16:48
Quote from: Fairplay on March 16, 2018, 16:39
EL on Adobe is 50 credits no matter what price you put on FT. You get 33% of 50 = 16.5 - 30% tax = 11.55.
Are you sure? Mat said at this other thread that EL-s are 79.99, so which one is it now?
http://www.microstockgroup.com/31290/31290/msg508528/#msg508528

Hmm, I just checked and the EL price really is 79.99. I'm pretty sure there was some info about the 50 credits EL price but can't find it right now.
The price of these sales is obviously 50 credits. Last week I had 3 of those sales 16.5 - 5% tax = 15.68

panicAttack

Quote from: panicAttack on March 16, 2018, 08:02
question to Mat:

I got 2x 11.55 of those x subscription sales last few days

It's nice to finally see some larger sales but how can I get 11.55 for extended licence on adobe?

30% of 79 is 23.7

23.7 - 30% tax withholding is 16.5

looks like you took tax withholding 2 times because:

16.55 - another 30% tax withhold is about 11.55

how can this be?

need to quote myself. hope I will see some answers from Mat.

derek

Just amazing that Adobe lends itself to keeping contributors in the dark!!  I thought somehow they stood above that being the industries standards in programs!  but Nope!